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July 30, 2008 3:45:46 PM

I am looking for a noiseless option with the capabilites of running Starcraft2 and Spore at the highest settings when they come out. Here is a card I've found but I'm worried about it over heating. I don't know a whole lot about what to look for I just saw it was the highest performance fanless option I could find on newegg. Anyone have any experience with this card? I'm thinking about doubling up with them for SLi but I don't know. I am building a new system but haven't bought anything yet just have me a list which I can post by request. Here is the card though and thanks for helping!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 30, 2008 4:03:30 PM

Why do you need a fanless card ? Usually fanless solutions are for HTPC's so the pc will be quiet enough to be in the living room. For gaming, I personally think fanless is not an option. For a few bucks more here is what I would suggest http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130332. This card is much more powerful than the 8600gt you were looking at.
a b U Graphics card
July 30, 2008 4:10:19 PM

There are plenty of 9600GT fanless cards out there that might be a better choice for quiet gaming. It would be superior to the 8600GT.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
July 30, 2008 4:13:36 PM

Nobody knows Spore's requirements yet. If it's anything like the games released in 2008 so far, you'll want something A LOT better than 8600GT. Fanless cards are good for watching movies and Solitaire, not much more.

You should definitely forget about 8600GT SLI. Very bad idea.
Two of those 8600GT would cost $180 with shipping, and for that money you can have a HD 4850 that beats them by an enormous margin. Just get a single HD 4850.

What kind of case and PSU do you have?

a c 143 U Graphics card
July 30, 2008 4:16:00 PM

smartel7070 said:
Why do you need a fanless card ? Usually fanless solutions are for HTPC's so the pc will be quiet enough to be in the living room. For gaming, I personally think fanless is not an option. For a few bucks more here is what I would suggest http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130332. This card is much more powerful than the 8600gt you were looking at.


LOL, it's actually $8.97 cheaper after rebate and shipping, and yes it's more powerful. Nice find. :) 


@OP: why don't you just wait until Spore is released and reviewed, so you know exactly what you need. By that time video cards will become cheaper too.
July 30, 2008 4:27:45 PM

I can run Spore Creature Creator at maximum settings at 1280x1024 on a 7600GT. Granted, it's not the full game and the full game will have more going on with it, but I still think that's impressive for a modern game. If you want a completely quiet solution for Spore, then a 9600GT or 8800GT should do you fine, though I think I've only seen one fanless 8800GT before.

Also, one thing you need to be careful of is that the fanless options will most likely need good airflow from your case in order to really shine. I'm not saying you have to have a wind tunnel for them to work well, but if your case only has a single 80mm fan out the back of it, I'm not sure the fanless option will do you much good.

As for Starcraft 2, no one knows what that will be like yet, but chances are a noiseless solution won't be able to really crank up the settings in that game unless Blizzard has some kind of magic bullet in their code. Not saying they're bad at making games or anything, they're awesome, but I doubt any level of good programming is going to make Starcraft 2 run at max settings on anything below an 8800GT, and even that's pushing it.

By the way, what resolution do you play at? That plays a large factor in whether or not you can play at highest settings for anything.
July 30, 2008 4:52:24 PM

2 x ECS 9600GT in SLI is your best option if you MUST go passive (it has the celebrated Arctic Cooling S1 GPU cooler on it).

Edit: You can also just buy two graphics cards that are compatable with the AC S1 (48x0, 38x0, 8800-series, 9800-series, or 9600GT) and save some money by not paying the 'pre-installed premium' of a factory passive card.

ECS 9600GT - $175 (a rediculous premium)
ECS 8800GT - $260 (a more rediculous premum)
July 30, 2008 4:56:47 PM

yep the ECS 9600GT is the better option if you MUST got for fanless.

KyleSTL i think it would be better to include the actual link to the product rather then give a list of cards.
July 30, 2008 5:08:07 PM

Best option (IMO):

Sapphire HD 4850 + AC S1 cooler = $175 ($155 after MIR) + $30 = $205 ($185 after MIR)

That way you'll have a top-performing GPU and won't have to deal with nVidia chipsets.
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 30, 2008 5:23:27 PM

+1

About Starcraft 2: if it's anything like Diablo 3, it will require some serious graphics power. I was just watching a 20-minute demo of Diablo 3 yesterday, and it's very impressive. It's got physics (walls and furniture shattered to bits, etc.) and lots of cool effects.
July 30, 2008 10:10:51 PM

I want the computer as quiet as possible... I also am wanting it as low power consumption as possible. A list of stuff I made earlier today was the following but I haven't checked to make sure its all compatible and everything yet. I am purchasing the computer because I need a new one not just for games so I need it soon like next week. The things I'm trying to aim for are...

1. Fast and quiet
2. Lead free
3. Lowest power consumption

Here is my list so far...

$89.99 - LIAN LI PC-A05 A Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$104.99 - ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$119.99* - Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$189.99 - Intel Xeon E3110 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$99.99 - SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-550HT ATX12V / EPS12V 550W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That's all I got so far and haven't had much time at all to look... just what I came up with after 30 mins of looking. Thanks so much for all the replies so far very helpful.
a b U Graphics card
July 30, 2008 10:32:16 PM

Is there a reason why you want the E3110 instead of the identical E8400 which is $25 cheaper ($165 at buy.com)?
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 30, 2008 11:53:25 PM

650TX is cheaper than that Seasonic, and gives more room for upgrades.

You're not going to overclock, are you? If you want to OC, add a cooler. If not, replace the DDR2-1066 with DDR2-800.

The P5K is based on P35, an older chipset. I'd get something based on P43 or P45, like P5Q, P5Q Pro, GA-EP43-DS3L, GA-EP45-DS3R.
July 30, 2008 11:53:57 PM

nope :p  just didn't know it existed... I'm about to look more into my list after I eat meh supper. TY for the link and info!
July 30, 2008 11:56:21 PM

aevm said:
650TX is cheaper than that Seasonic, and gives more room for upgrades.

You're not going to overclock, are you? If you want to OC, add a cooler. If not, replace the DDR2-1066 with DDR2-800.

The P5K is based on P35, an older chipset. I'd get something based on P43 or P45, like P5Q, P5Q Pro, GA-EP43-DS3L, GA-EP45-DS3R.



I don't know what your referring to when you say the 650TX (other than its a PSU, im guessing) but I chose the Seasonic because of it's 80plus rating and i believe it to have lead-free parts.
a b U Graphics card
July 30, 2008 11:59:43 PM

He's referring to the Corsair 650TX. Corsair PSU's are made by Seasonic BTW, so one is as good as the other.
July 31, 2008 5:18:06 AM

Here is my new list and I'm having big troubles finding a quiet solution for video card. I want to be able to run Starcraft2/Diablo3/Spore ... If someone can help me decide on a quiet solution to run those games with a "high" settings I'd appreciate it! I don't have a preference to ati or nvidia either... just whatever works.


$89.99 - LIAN LI PC-A05 A Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$109.99 - OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$104.99 - ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$169.99 - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$109.99 - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC, CCC - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$53.99 - ZALMAN 9500A 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 31, 2008 5:23:07 AM

There's no way to be sure whether or not a noiseless solution will be able to run everything you mentioned at best settings once they release and it'll really depend on the resolution you play at also.

If you absolutely have to go silent though, your best bet is an 8800GT, which Elitegroup makes with a passive cooler, but the price is pretty high ($260 to be exact). Otherwise your only other option for high power and silent cooling would be to get something like a HD 4850 and install a passive cooler yourself, but I'm not sure that's the best idea unless you know what you're doing. You could also get away with getting a pair of silent 9600GTs and putting them in SLI, but that would ring you up close to $250 and also you'd need an SLI board.

Also you really should aim for DDR2 800 RAM instead of DDR2 1066. There's not really any major difference in performance and you can save yourself probably $20. Another thing to note is that unless you're running a 64-bit OS, you won't be using all of that 4 GB of memory, so you might want to considering 2 GB instead.

Also, as some people have said already, you should look for a board based on the P45 set. Those would be the most energy efficient as they're newer and manufacturers seems to tout energy efficiency like they're selling you free porn bundled with every Mobo.
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 31, 2008 2:50:27 PM

That case is a bit small, and has only 2 fans. That's not very impressive, for $110 (after shipping). You could buy an Antec 900 for $80.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=Antec%2b900

The Antec 900 has switches for the fans. You can make them quiet when the machine is in Word or Explorer or you're surfing or watching movies. You can crank the cooling up when you're gaming and the video card gets hot.

I've seen a thread yesterday about using a HD 4850 with a passive Accelero S1 cooler. I wouldn't try that in the Lian-Li case, but in the Antec 900 it should be OK.

a c 143 U Graphics card
July 31, 2008 2:55:34 PM

mathiasschnell said:
Another thing to note is that unless you're running a 64-bit OS, you won't be using all of that 4 GB of memory, so you might want to considering 2 GB instead.


I'm using XP 32-bit with 4GB. Yeah, you're right, I don't get to use all 4 GB. I see only 3.25GB. But that's still better than 2GB, and the price difference between 2GB and 4GB of DDR2-800 is really small these days.


July 31, 2008 6:36:21 PM

I'm very interested in the 4850 with passive cooler idea... but the case you linked is too much I'm wanting a very simple looking case which is what attracted me to the first I posted in the first place.
July 31, 2008 7:31:43 PM

Also video card wise my monitor/hdtv I'm using has a max resolution of 1366x768 i believe... so please take that into account when recommending graphics card since I'll be using it for the next year or so at least.
July 31, 2008 7:39:44 PM

Oh, well in that case a passively cooled 9600GT (maybe two in SLI) should do you just fine.
July 31, 2008 9:14:59 PM

+1 for 9600GT [or SLI]

OP: the Nine Hundred becomes very elegent when you replace all the blue LED tri-cool Antec fans with black fans (exactly what my dad did). The 800/1200 RPM Scythe Slipstreams are probably the best choice for replacements.

Another option is to get a different Lian Li case (personally I'm a fanboy).
Lian Li PC-7 - $100 (same case I have)
'Lancool' PC-K7 - $90 (it's actually Lian Li and has very good cooling thanks to the 2 120mm fans in the front)
Lancool PC-K10 - $120 (same as PC-K7 with a front door)
PC-A70 - $240 (my favorite Lian Li case, albeit very expensive)

Edit: The perfect case - Antec Three Hundred - $70. It's classy and has excellent thermals (needed for passive GPUs). Can't believe I didn't think of that before. It does not have the ugly (personal opinion) LED fans that it's older brother, the Nine Hundred, has.
August 1, 2008 12:38:50 AM

Okay, I've started looking at the 9600GTs and notice they have alot of passive cooling options, but I don't know the difference between them so I figured I'd post which ones I've found and see what you guys/gals think.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you have a better suggestion for card for system with max resolution of 1366x768 then let me know but seems like most believe I'd be best suited to run one or two of the cards above.

*** keep in mind low power consumption and especially silent(or almost silent) is important

THANKS for all the help everyone has already offered!
August 1, 2008 1:35:47 AM

KyleSTL said:
+1 for 9600GT [or SLI]

OP: the Nine Hundred becomes very elegent when you replace all the blue LED tri-cool Antec fans with black fans (exactly what my dad did). The 800/1200 RPM Scythe Slipstreams are probably the best choice for replacements.

Another option is to get a different Lian Li case (personally I'm a fanboy).
Lian Li PC-7 - $100 (same case I have)
'Lancool' PC-K7 - $90 (it's actually Lian Li and has very good cooling thanks to the 2 120mm fans in the front)
Lancool PC-K10 - $120 (same as PC-K7 with a front door)
PC-A70 - $240 (my favorite Lian Li case, albeit very expensive)

Edit: The perfect case - Antec Three Hundred - $70. It's classy and has excellent thermals (needed for passive GPUs). Can't believe I didn't think of that before. It does not have the ugly (personal opinion) LED fans that it's older brother, the Nine Hundred, has.


Whats wrong with this case -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ?

I like this case for several reasons...
1. It has a simple look and contains a 3.5" bay for multi card reader.
2. Color matches my external hard drive nicely.
3. Appears to be somewhat smaller than most
4. Placement of the external plug-ins on the top works nicely for where I'm wanting to put the case. (on the floor :p )
August 1, 2008 2:45:58 AM

Problem is that there's not much ventilation. It only has a single fan in the back and that probably won't be enough to properly cool any silent video card you get. Also, it's $90, but it doesn't seem like you're getting much for the money. A lot of cases come with 3.5" bays for things like floppy or card readers and it's a widespread trend to put the external plugs on the top of the case now.
August 1, 2008 2:49:06 PM

FWAOKDA said:
Whats wrong with this case -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ?

I like its apperence too, but here are the problems:

- Front-mounted PSU
- One rear exhaust fan
- Zero intake fans (this is a big no-no for passive anything)

Things it has going for it:
- 'BTX' upside-down design (ideal for the S1 cooler)

If you're worried about size you could always go for a G45 chipset and a microATX board/case. At a resolution of 1366x768 you'll never need SLI/CrossFire.

The Lian Li A59 is your best bet as far as apperance and thermals are concerned. The Lian Li G50 also has a better design (thermally) and looks very similar (to the A05). You can buy a Lian Li 5.25->3.5 adapter from Performance-PC aswell to be able to use your card reader.
August 1, 2008 4:42:09 PM

If the one rwpritchett posted wouldn't be noisy then I'll go for it. Looks very similar to the other except it has a huge fan on the side, but whatever.

Edit: Well I'd really LOVE it if the usb ports and stuff were on the top instead of the bottom like the other cases posted. Is there one like that???

Thanks again!
August 1, 2008 4:48:38 PM

Bigger fans push more air while being less noisy, even at high speeds. For instance, my Antec 900 has a huge 200 or 250 mm fan on the top and even at max speed I can barely hear the thing. It's awesome.
a b U Graphics card
August 1, 2008 5:04:39 PM

The Enermax Chakra cases also have a side 250mm fan and they have the ports on the top of the case. The build quality isn't as high as Lian Lit though. The lower price reflects that though ($70).

August 2, 2008 3:08:43 PM

KyleSTL said:
I still think the Lian Li A59 is the best choice:
A59 Picture

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_i...
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

It has everything you've listed so far:
Good design
Good cooling
Smaller size (it's a mini tower, not Mid Tower like the others listed)
Top-mounted USB, Firewire and Audio (visible in the picture)
Front 120mm fan
Top 140mm fan


I like that one a whole lot! Thanks... unless someone here convinces me otherwise I think I'll be going with that one. I'll post my new final specs later and see if there are any more objections! Thanks again, had no idea I'd get so much help when I first came to this forum.
August 2, 2008 3:30:00 PM

Getting back to the original problem... what passive card should I get? Remember now that I can only go up to 1366x768 resolution. Anyways I looked at some 9600gt passive cards and the two better ones I've found I'll list below, but I don't know what to go with. If you can think of another card besides the 9600gt then be my guest. I want it QUIET though so... ya if it's passive cooling then I would be happy ;)  Thanks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
August 2, 2008 4:28:43 PM

Here is my final list atm... gimme your ideas recommendations! TY

$89.99 - LIAN LI PC-A59A Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$149.99 - ASUS P5N-D LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$169.99 - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$109.99 - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC, CCC - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$189.99 - GIGABYTE GV-NX96T1GHP GeForce 9600 GT 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$53.99 - ZALMAN 9500A 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$87.99 - mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$9.99 - nMEDIAPC ZE-C68 All-in-one USB 2.0 Card Reader w/ USB Port - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$4.99 - Arctic Silver Ceramique Thermal Compound - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

= $866.91 + shipping
August 2, 2008 11:08:41 PM

I would go with the ECS passive 9600GT card. The Gigabyte and Asus passive designs leave something to be desired (in terms of performance).

ECS 9600GT link

Edit: Looking over your list, there are a couple things I would change -
1) if you're looking for quiet you'll want to steer clear of Zalman coolers. Also, because of the PSU mounting location you'll need a low-profile cooler. This is the best one that fits both bills - Scythe Shuriken - $27

2)You'll never need SLI, so I would not get a nVidia chipset board. The P35/P45 would be perfect for you:
Gigabyte P35 DS3L - $85
Gigabyte P43 DS3L - $95
Gigabyte P45 DS3L - $108
!