I may or may not actually overclock, but having that option available is a plus.
I have a Q6600 that is running 54-57c on all cores under load.
I have a CPU cooler that is making random squeaking noises. It's still spinning, but I won't rely on that cooler to keep it doing that for long.
My specs:
CoolerMaster RC-690 case
ASUS P5N-D
Q6600
2x9600GT
4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800MHz 4-4-4-12
The coolers I'm looking at right now are the CoolerMaster V8 (yes, it will fit in my case) and the Corsair H50.
Are there any other air or water coolers in the sub-$100 range I should consider?
Thanks for the help.
Here is a great link, spend some time on it. The H50 is a high end air replacement setup. You'll get no better temps from it over a high end air cooler. Lots of H50 discussion on other forums, we pretty much know it's capabilities. It's got liquid in it, but it's NOT considered a real WC system. It just doesn't have the cooling capability of a WC loop. Your looking at $200+ for real WC just to start.
Anyway, here is a great link to read.
http://www.frostytech.com/
Core contact freeezer beats the h50 (=
http://www.guru3d.com/article/cors [...] r-review/6
It's actually $25 with the MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835207004

Xigamtek Dark Knight, or Scythe Mugen 2. Aside from the CCF that overshocked always lists.
| AKM880 wrote : Xigamtek Dark Knight, or Scythe Mugen 2. Aside from the CCF that overshocked always lists. |
All of them are great and will perform within a couple of degrees of eachother.

| overshocked wrote : All of them are great and will perform within a couple of degrees of eachother. |
I know Xigmatek doesn't fit some motherboards due to the heat pipe shape, so I quit recommending it.
I can't possibly test fit it to EVERY board on the market to find out how many it doesn't fit.
| Crashman wrote : I know Xigmatek doesn't fit some motherboards. |
The CCF doesn't either, due to the distance between the base and fins, I had to clip a couple pins off the NB HS on an Asus Rampage to mount it, the Xig 1284 fit with no modifications.
I wonder how the CCF compares to the AC freezer 7 pro. Would it be worth the upgrade for a Q6700?
I dont think Frostytech even tested it. Does anyone have a link to a comparison with the ACf7pro?
This is why I love these forums.
Thank you all for the advice. I'll be getting the CCF.
hehe, i didnt answer this thread because i was waiting on overclocked to do it.
the guy has a firm grasp on current cpu coolers.
I also just read a review on the H50 that makes me glad I came here to ask first...
In order to facilitate maximum cooling, you have to set it up to pull air into the case and across the rad.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm not much of a fan of intentionally adding extra warm air to the inside of my case.
The H50 is pretty neat. It cools as well as any other high end air heatsink. in the real watercooling world we don't consider it a watercooling setup. Sure it has liquid, but real watercooling is to get lower temps than what an air cooler can do. At MUCH higher cost and complexity.
My CPU loop cost me about $300. It's an i7965. It loads at the mid 50's with OCCt Linpack mode, with room temp at 84F. My GPU loop cost me $550+. Two GTX280's loads with furmark at 1680x1050 8x MSAA in the mid 50's. And this is on Medium speed fans turned down to medium. So it's very very quiet.
My latest rig:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=604016
Thats what real WC does.
| darth meatloaf wrote : I also just read a review on the H50 that makes me glad I came here to ask first...
|
The way you want to mount the h50 is to pull air into the system through it then have a fan right above the cpu socket blowint the hot air out.
It gets much lower temps than anything else. and you dont get much higher in case temps (according to my thermometers)

| neon neophyte wrote : hehe, i didnt answer this thread because i was waiting on overclocked to do it.
|
Who?

oops lol. overshocked!
| DellUser1 wrote : The CCF doesn't either, due to the distance between the base and fins, I had to clip a couple pins off the NB HS on an Asus Rampage to mount it, the Xig 1284 fit with no modifications. |
Here's one with the fins pre-clipped, it fit everything I tried it against (dozens of boards).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] pk=FORT120
| Conumdrum wrote : The H50 is pretty neat. It cools as well as any other high end air heatsink. in the real watercooling world we don't consider it a watercooling setup. Sure it has liquid, but real watercooling is to get lower temps than what an air cooler can do. At MUCH higher cost and complexity. My CPU loop cost me about $300. It's an i7965. It loads at the mid 50's with OCCt Linpack mode, with room temp at 84F. My GPU loop cost me $550+. Two GTX280's loads with furmark at 1680x1050 8x MSAA in the mid 50's. And this is on Medium speed fans turned down to medium. So it's very very quiet. My latest rig: Thats what real WC does. |
Whoa. Thats a beautiful rig Conundrum, great job. Hows that Sunbeam Fan Controller, I wanted to get one but am sorta leaning towards the Scythe Kaze (I think its called)
| Crashman wrote : Here's one with the fins pre-clipped, it fit everything I tried it against (dozens of boards).
|
Looks good,cost less than the Xig and bracket.
I never even thought of looking to Rosewill for a cooler.
I like the idea that it's cut out for a push/pull configuration , mounting a second fan on the CCF or Xig can be a pain.
The sunbeam rheobus is under $20, seen it for under $15 on sale. Handles
1 3 yate loons meduims
2 3 yate loon meduims
3 1 yate loon meduim for HD
4 2 92mm for mosfets.
Stoopid LEDS are way to bright, painted them. For a basic one, it can't be beat. Popular and cheap. If I was running massive fannage I'd get something else.
Is it the Rheobus Extreme? Like this one?
So in total your running 9 fans? Or those separately?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811995017
| Conumdrum wrote : The sunbeam rheobus is under $20, seen it for under $15 on sale. Handles
|
You'd better edit the spelling of medium before someone comes along and says you obviously can't be trusted any more than your spelling.
This is the cooler I'm using.
http://www.jab-tech.com/Sunbeam-5- [...] -2530.html
Good store to buy from too.
Yes, 9 fans in total. Look at the link and once you got the wattage rating on the fan you can see I'm under it per channel.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa1.html
How dare you try to correct me you old man! Crashman, I know I silled it right, I Goggled it while stuck in my parents basement, I have no friends, I have time, many many eons of years left than you do old man!
Okay thanks Conundrum, would you rather get this tho?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811998058
I don't use new egg to shop much and I don't trust the reviews on newegg, too many first time fools posting reviews, so I'm bowing out of this. I buy whats proven and trusted
I buy what other experianced overclockers talk about on forums and read non-biased test reviews. I'm not a fan of ANY retail "my stuff is best, buy my stuff" words. It could take me two weeks to decide on a part. Slow down.......
Haha, thanks for the advice Conundrum. When I first saw you say Sunbeam Rheobus Fan Controller I thought of this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811998808
I didn't really liked how it looked, but the one you found on jab-tech looked alot better (with LEDs). Other than jaab-tech what are some good sites that you like to use and that sell good overclocker's/modders/enthusiast parts?
These maimly, They are big on WC stuff.
Stores
http://www.dangerden.com
http://www.petrastechshop.com/
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/
http://www.jab-tech.com/
http://www.performance-pcs.com
LOL he did that!
Thank you Conundrum, you've been a great help. Still finishing reading up on your WC guide
Once you read that, the real info is in the forums in the links, joining forums and reading everything you can. The guides can only take you so far.
Three months on 4 forums before I even decided on what to buy.
Poof and he's gone, yaaa!
^ Saw that coming.
Ok, who's gonna be the first to review the Rosewill hsf???
I understand that some of you find Newegg's customer reviews to be questionable at best, but I found a gem in the middle of the crap that a few of you might find interesting:
"Cons: I found that with the fan installed as intended, because of the shape of the fins much of the air goes out the side of the HS instead of completely through it. I applied some 2' aluminum heat tape to the sides of the heatsink, forcing the air from the fan to go more completely through the entire heat sink. This gave me an additional 4' to 6' degrees of cooling at max CPU operations."
the url: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] ords=p5n-d
I did a search of the reviews of the CCF on Newegg to see if anyone that had the same Motherboard as me had tried it out. I got just this one hit, and it was a 4-egg review. I know enough about heat transfer to know that he's not full of crap, but I was wondering if anyone here had an opinion on the matter. (that means you, Overshocked...)
| darth meatloaf wrote : I understand that some of you find Newegg's customer reviews to be questionable at best, but I found a gem in the middle of the crap that a few of you might find interesting:
|
HAHHA, that is pretty funny because i did the exact same thing and got a about 4 degrees cooler on the CCF, i did it with aluminum sheets though, not copper.
He is right. It is great to have a fan cover like that. I have noticed after lapping and installing a second fan with a fan cover the cpu cooler is about 6-8 degrees cooler than i had it before, it is a good idea unless you are doing a bench session when you have like 10 fans pointing at the HSF (like when i got to 4.93 GHz)

Well, my questions about my CPU cooler have been more than answered, time to buy.
I'm gonna sneak in one more question for you, Overshocked...
For my pair of 9600GT cards - does anyone make an aftermarket high(ish) performance air cooler for those, or is my next step in cooling going to be water?
EDIT: To be clear, my main priority is evacuating the heat generated by my GPUs from the case more efficiently, so as to lower the temp inside my case...
LOL wow I have almost the same rig with the exception of CPU, mine is Q6700. I also posted the same question on around 7/20 since my cpu cooler is also dying and one of the pins broke so the temps on one core can be excessive so I have stoped using the rig untill the new cooler is shipped. I ordered this Friday morning from Newegg and was hopping that they would ship it the same day but the only thing they did is "verify my payment" lol. Anyway can't wait so i can have the rig up and running again.
By the way any suggestions on cooling the TOP 9600gt since its hotter by 10 deg Celcius than the bottom one. They are both two slot cards and are very close to eachother.
And again lol, while i was typing "darth meathloaf" asked my question sorry for doube post then.
darth meathloaf, how many fans do you have instaled in your case and where?
| darth meatloaf wrote : Well, my questions about my CPU cooler have been more than answered, time to buy.
|
Using an aftermarket gpu cooler will not drop the temperatures of the case because almost all of them will evacuate the air into the case.
And like i have said many times, i dont like water cooling, it is to expensive for what it is when you could buy a phase change for the same price.
Air cooling will get you extremely similar temperatures to water.
The only after market GPU cooler i have used and have heard many good things about was this one
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] =g40c21s66
you can pick it up at frys if you have one near you, it should drop your GPU temps to 45c

| syche9876 wrote : And again lol, while i was typing "darth meathloaf" asked my question sorry for doube post then.
|
I have the two case fans that came pre-mounted (front and back) and I added 3 more Thermaltake A2492 120mm case fans (one on the bottom of the case drawing air in and two at the top pulling air out) so 5 total.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835106116
The 3 Thermaltake fans are quiet enough in comparison to my 9600's that I couldn't hear a difference after I added them.
| darth meatloaf wrote : I have the two case fans that came pre-mounted (front and back) and I added 3 more Thermaltake A2492 120mm case fans (one on the bottom of the case drawing air in and two at the top pulling air out) so 5 total.
|
Nice fans. I have 2 on top, 1 back, 1 front, and I have ordered some more. Im going to put one one the bottom, one on the side door(bootom mounting to cool the GPU's maybe), and one in the front on top of the other front fan since the grill is mesh there and can take air in. However im thinking of putting some kind of dampening device on the side door since when you put a fan on the side door it makes high whistling noise (probably becouse the way the little holes were made in the door.
Im also thinking of getting something like a 60mm fan to place on the northbridge, since that kind of gets hot too.
| overshocked wrote : Using an aftermarket gpu cooler will not drop the temperatures of the case because almost all of them will evacuate the air into the case.
|
Ok, so that got me looking at what else was available for GPUs and found a couple that would effectively turn my 1-slot 9600's into two-slot cards...
What do you think of:
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Prod [...] 53&ID=1583
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835110015
| darth meatloaf wrote : I understand that some of you find Newegg's customer reviews to be questionable at best, but I found a gem in the middle of the crap that a few of you might find interesting:
|
The Rosewill FORT120 has its fins turned up at the end to block air from escaping the sides, negating the need for such modifications
The first one isnt made for your card and the second i have always hated. (=
Why are you trying to bring your case temps down?
personally i dont give a shi1 about case temps as long as the components are cool.

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