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GA-EP45-DS3L + E8400 + 1TB Maxtor SATA + ??? Ram + ??? Video card?

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July 11, 2008 3:59:43 PM

Hi,

I am purchasing the e8400 + GA-EP45-DS3L.

What ram and what video card would work best with my system? I am pulling my existing PSU to use on this build. I will be running Windows XP, so I'm assuming 3gb max for ram?

Also, what is this I've read about using an existing CPU to flash bios so my E8400 will post?

Any advice would be appreciated from this n00b builder.

edit: btw, i plan on overclocking the cpu to 3.6ish max, IF i ever do overclock it. will a scythe ninja scnj-1000 sufficient for cooling to 3.6?
July 11, 2008 5:20:05 PM

Alright. One problem with the Scythe Ninja that I have personally have problems with. The LGA775 pin system makes it pretty hard to get working. I suggest going with the Xigmatek cooler and the back plate.

3GB of RAM would be an irregular number. You might as well just go for dual-channeling two 2GB sticks.

How strong is your existing power supply? What wattage and what amperage?
July 11, 2008 5:22:34 PM

thanks for the reply. i already pruchased the Corsair 2gb DDR2 1066 ram. as for the power supply, it's like a 4 year old 550w antec i think? i forget, i'll have to check when i get home.

and for a videocard. i'm thinking of getting the sapphire HD4850?
July 11, 2008 5:24:08 PM

You may need to pick up a new power supply, sadly. Old power supplies are 3.3v and 5v heavy, whereas new power supplies are 12v heavy. The main power suck of computers nowadays is 12v, where the CPU and graphics card get their power. I'd have to see the amperage on the 12v to make a good decision, though.

The HD4850 is practically unrivaled in terms of bang for your buck. I will say that the 9600GT is another great card, if you're not looking for the highest end performance.
July 11, 2008 5:26:02 PM

9600gt it is... i definitely don't need the highest end.. but will it be worth it to pay $50 more for the hd4850?
July 11, 2008 5:32:14 PM


It really depends. What monitor are you using and how much are you willing to spend? Although, the 4850 at $150 is a very tantalizing deal.
July 11, 2008 5:42:34 PM

i believe i have the VA1912WB viewsonic 19" wide
July 11, 2008 5:49:04 PM

In terms of FPS, I think the 1280x1024 would be the closest comparison.
July 11, 2008 5:51:32 PM

if you were in my shoes, what would you do?
July 11, 2008 5:53:14 PM

If I'm not intending to upgrade my monitor for a while, I'd take a 9600GT now, seeing how it'll run Crysis pretty fine right now at that resolution. Later on, depending on the price of video cards, you have either the option of buying a second 9600GT (which may not be recommended, depending how the market turns out) or buying a different standalone card.
July 11, 2008 5:55:01 PM

i would not buy another monitor as this desktop is mainly used to surf, chat, burn dvd's watch videos (not movies), etc... nothing hardcore...

i'm just tired of a slow computer.
July 11, 2008 5:57:58 PM

At this point, graphics cards are only going to make the computer feel faster in gaming. Your computer will feel pretty snappy during single-threaded programs, or those which will only use two cores. Since you're not doing anything hardcore, I wouldn't think you have a need beyond the 9600GT or HD 3870, yet. [Both are very close in price, and very close in performance with the HD3870 with a slight advantage].
July 11, 2008 5:59:27 PM

thanks a bunch! 9600gt or hd3870 it is.. (pending deals)
July 11, 2008 6:37:18 PM

Ah, a 1TB drive is fine, if I remember correctly.
July 11, 2008 6:49:16 PM

again, thanks for the help.. i just went ahead with the hd4850 since there weren't deals out for the 9600gt or 3870 that warranted me to pass it up.

btw, so what is this thing about using an existing cpu to flash bios so my e8400 will post correctly on my new ga-ep45-ds3l?
July 11, 2008 6:56:37 PM

thanks for all your help and quick response!
July 15, 2008 4:55:57 PM

it's actually $64.XX shipped, after coupon (no rebate needed)
a b U Graphics card
July 15, 2008 5:04:57 PM

^Ah...I see. In that case, it's not a bad PSU for $65.
July 16, 2008 2:57:18 AM

does anyone recommend partitioning the harddrive? if so, what's the optimum way to partition it?

thanks!
a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2008 3:47:18 PM

I prefer to have 2 HDDs in RAID. But partitioning wise, make at least 50GB for OS only, and the rest for data/programs.
July 16, 2008 9:52:41 PM

when you say at least 50... what would be a good number? i'll be running XP pro.
a b U Graphics card
July 18, 2008 4:25:20 PM

I mean a 50GB partition for the OS only. Create another partition(the rest of the drive space) for data/programs. Just make sure that when you install new software to the 2nd partition and NOT the 50GB OS partition.
July 22, 2008 2:22:26 AM

thanks for your help!

i'm looking at my bios and the voltage for my memory is running at 1.8v & 5-7-7-24 (or something like that). the memory i bought said 5-5-5-15 @ 2.0v. should i manually adjust the timing on my memory?

also, my e8400 is reading at 8x for the multiplier. should i up it to 9x and turn off speedstepping?

will there be any negative effects of doing this?

i tried to up the voltage of the memory from 1.8 to 2.0v and my computer would hang at the "verifying DMI pool data" or something like that... i'm not sure if upping the voltage is the culprit though.

thanks again!
a b U Graphics card
July 22, 2008 5:37:40 PM

Quote:
i'm looking at my bios and the voltage for my memory is running at 1.8v & 5-7-7-24 (or something like that). the memory i bought said 5-5-5-15 @ 2.0v. should i manually adjust the timing on my memory?

Yes, manually change them.

Quote:
also, my e8400 is reading at 8x for the multiplier. should i up it to 9x and turn off speedstepping?

Yes, run it at 9x with SpeedStep disabled. I prefer to disable SpeedStep (when OCing only) because the $4-5 in savings per year are not worth the possible instability.

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i tried to up the voltage of the memory from 1.8 to 2.0v and my computer would hang at the "verifying DMI pool data" or something like that... i'm not sure if upping the voltage is the culprit though.

Try 1.9v. Also keep SPD at 2. What FSB are you running?
July 22, 2008 7:29:30 PM

FSB: 1333

i'm at 9x multiplier right now.

i was wrong, corsair's website states the ram was tested at 2.1V, but the sticker on the ram itself says 2.2V

Right now, I have it set at 2.1V and there's this ticking sound that comes out of my speakers when I'm playing music or watching youtube, etc...

my comp is still sluggish, can this be due to me using my old IDE harddrive? my old harddrive is about to die because it ticks also (separate issue from the ticking my speakers make).

i just haven't figured out how to install my sata harddrive because I can't seem to find gigabyte's sata controller, even though I e-mailed them a week ago, awaiting a response.
a b U Graphics card
July 23, 2008 8:28:55 PM

Quote:

my comp is still sluggish, can this be due to me using my old IDE harddrive? my old harddrive is about to die because it ticks also (separate issue from the ticking my speakers make).

You should back up your data on that drive. Also what temps are you getting? The SATA controller should be installed when you install the drivers from the CD. (Just don't install DES).
July 23, 2008 8:33:17 PM

i think my comp died on me. i ran the memory at 2.2V @ 5-5-5-15 as it says on corsair's website... after i shut it down then restart it a few min later, my comp would verify dmi pool and then flash a real quick BSOD and restart, over and over and over... can't start on safe mode or anything :( 

so frustrating! thought it was going to be straight foward.

also, MOBO is running most current bios.
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2008 4:28:18 PM

Clear CMOS (remove battery) and see.
July 24, 2008 4:33:18 PM

i'll try that when i get home. thanks!
July 28, 2008 3:03:31 PM

i got it to work by streamlining SP2 with my windows XP cd.

now i just have to figure out why my memory doesn't run at the recommended voltage...
a b U Graphics card
July 28, 2008 3:43:07 PM

Glad you got the OS up and running.

!