Please Advice ! :)

Hi everyone.... i want to setup liquid cooling... i don't have any kinda past experience with liquid cooling setup :P just installed cooler master aqua gate old one years back on the 939 amd 3200... i have been googling a lot past few weeks i want some suggestions i believe :)
anyways moving forward my hardware list below...

i7 965 (Swiftech Apogee GTZ?)

3-way sli ~ MSI N285 Superpipe 1gb ~ http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=136&prod_no=1775 (Should i remove the actual dual fans n get waterblocks n which water blocks are compatible ?)

Corsair Dominator GT 2000Mhz 12 (6x2) GB (MIPS RAM Freezer 6 "Corsair Edition" POM?)
Should work with dominator gt 6 modules of 2 gigs ? Dont think corsair Ice T30 x2 can be used side to side tho an outstanding product....

Asus Rampage II Extreme (Should i get the block for the chipset?)

I need good suggestions from the experienced one's :) ill share what i have in my mind aswell...
Lets start with the Rad/Pump/Reservoir/Tubes n all the small necessary stuff that ill be needing...

Looking forward to all the possible help.. :)
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  1. Have you spent a few weeks learning about watercooling? My standard cut n paste for new users who don't know much yet. Cya in a week or more, please read read read.

    lUs guys have done the WC thing, there are basics you gotta know. Take a look, don't take it as a diss on you or a rebuttal, look at as a friend saying "Dude, you gotta know what to say and how to communicate".
    .......................................
    CPU HS $65
    GPU HS and air HS for vram and mosfets $95, full cover block, $100-$200
    Radiator $60 min, up to $130
    Pump $50 +
    Resiviour $25
    Hose, some barbs and clamps etc (min $25, more like $35)
    Fans $15-30

    I went top notch and spent close to $600 to cool my CPU and GPU.
    First you gotta learn about WC. It's not like walking into Best Buy.
    Spend a while (weeks is best for your sanity) at these links.
    Look at the hundreds of loops close to your case and components in the stickies, read a couple 50 or so threads over the next week or so, you'll be on the ball to make the right choices and by then know how to put it together.
    Not 'Roket Sience', but basic knowledge is required.
    And you should spend a few hours on the listed sites reading threads. It's how we learn. Once the goodies show up on your doorstep your on your own.
    For your benefit please spend a few days reading a LOT. At the busiest places for WC masters. Guys who have done it for YEARS at OC Forums and xtreme forums. It took me a while (I was OCing on air, aftermarket stuff, bios settings, best chipsets etc etc) to learn the language and the tricks to a easy install.

    Don't expect miracles or SUPER DOOPER over clocks. What you will get is a quiet system that can handle OC to the max of your hardware IF you buy quality and buy smart. And minor maintenance too, a bonus for the water cooler.

    Also while there please read on case mods etc. The radiators are not for small cases, pumps and hose routing, wire management and other things are important. Google your planned case and the word water-cooled in one line. You might get lucky. Look here too…. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=223835
    ............................
    Edit: The next paragraph was from 2008. With the advent of the HOT i7 and bigger GPU's, it has changed. A 220 size MIN rad for an i7, you want big overclocks, better go 320 sized rad.
    ................................

    IF you just cool your CPU and your NB if you want, you can get by with a 120.2 sized radiator (RAD). And MAYBE fit in inside depending on your mod skillz. You want to cool your GPU too, you'll need a 120.3 sized rad, and it probably won't fit inside. The rear external rad really works great. No matter what your adding 10lbs to your PC.

    Once you got an idea of what is good/bad then start getting your system for WC put together and we'll be glad to help.
    …………………………………………………………
    Cleaning a loop, not a new loop: I do this once a year, I drain and refill at 6 months, the next time I do this……
    Wash hands very well, getting rid of hand oils.
    For pumps and blocks, fittings, clamps, acrylic res/block parts.... not hose, tear it to smallest pieces, put in a bowl, heat water up not to boiling add 10% vinegar, when hot, pour over parts. Rinse in 10 min or so. Put aside.
    The bocks will probably have some black oxidation. Take the copper parts out of the pile of parts you took out of the water. Dry well and pour ketchup on them, and set aside. Only the copper parts need this.
    Rad cleaning: fill with very almost boiling hot water. Let sit 10 minutes, drain half out and shake for 5 min. Repeat till liquid is clean.
    All the pump, block, fittings, and clamps, inspect, get in the tiniest corners with a tooth brush. Kind of meditative, time consuming, you learn a lot about o-ring size, how it all feels. Run a rag using a coat hanger and dish soap through the tubing, rinse well.
    Rinse all the parts and hose with distilled, dry then really dry with an air compressor (nice extra step to get rid of water spots). Don’t need to dry the inside of the hose.
    Now on to the copper parts, they should have been soaking an hour or two. A toothbrush and ketchup should clean much of the oxidation. It probably won’t be like new, but pretty darn good. Rinse, dry, and blow the parts.
    That’s it.
    ………………………………………………………
    Benching software and such is very varied. I use these for each purpose:
    These are pretty standard and used by many.
    Monitoring the PC temps overall: HWmonitor aka hardware monitor
    CPUZ for CPU info
    GPUZ for GPU info
    CPU only: RealTemp
    GPU only: ATI Tool, I have a Nivida GTX280, so it works on Nvidia

    Loading/benching tools:
    CPU loaders: Prime95 and OCCT
    GPU Loaders: ATI Tool and the best one is Furmark, nothing pushes the GPU harder right now.
    Benching for overall graphics/gaming performance is 3DMark06
    ……………………………………………………………
    Guides
    http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=282232 Pretty up to date info and buying guide
    http://gilgameshreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=75:hokiealumnus&catid=40:overclocking-and-cooling&Itemid=86 Another good guide
    http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=312743 What to do once all the stuff is in the door
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=223835 Many build logs on MANY cases, great learning tool.

    My latest rig:
    http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=604016

    Forums
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/index.php? Not a noob site, but great stickies
    http://www.ocforums.com/ My fav, good peeps, know their stuff, less hardcore
    http://www.over-clock.com/ivb/inde [...] opic=20277 A GREAT Europe site
    http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/ Decent site

    Tests on equipment, not reviews, truly scientific tests
    http://translate.google.com/transl [...] n&ie=UTF-8 Info on rad testing
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220593 More rad testing
    http://skinneelabs.com/ Host for Martins lab and some newer tests
    http://www.skinneelabs.com/MartinsLiquidLab/ Test results, very technical


    Stores
    http://www.dangerden.com
    http://www.petrastechshop.com/
    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/
    http://www.jab-tech.com/
    http://www.performance-pcs.com
    ……………………………………………………………………………….
    All you need is a new Air heatsink for $50 or so. A basic 'good' CPU only watercooling setup thats better than a great air cooled heatsink will set you back about $200, maybe a bit less. That's not the great stuff, but wayyy better than any TT stuff.

    A proper WC loop of top parts starts here for a GREAT CPU loop.
    A pump for watercooling that you can keep for a longgg time will set you back about $70+. A rad you can build on is about $60, up to $130. A good CPU block, $60. A res, $25+. Hose etc 30+.

    You could benefit BIG time for watercooling the GPU's. Noise is gone and GPU's scream. If your gonna do the GPU's, might as well to the CPU too. But now we are talking over $500 very easily. Depending on the GPU's heatload, you might need TWO rads and possibly a fully second loop. Price really climbs then.

    Please ohh please DON'T think of buying a Thermaltake kit. I can put you on many forums where every single one of the hundreds of watercoolers will tell you please don't. It's crap.

    The TT kit you linked to will reduce your temps on the CPU. It's only a 120x2 size rad, a very inefficient one at that. It, just by physics can't handle the heat from the GPU's added to the loop. Impossible. The TT pump isn't known to be powerful, and the teeny hose won't help flow rates when you attempt to add any more blocks to it.

    You DON'T need a watercooling loop. You need a better heatsink and probably better case airflow due to the GPU's. Modern hobby cases have more than two fans. If they are 80mm fans on your case you really really need a new case.

    For support and help on getting a new air cooler, learning about watercooling, and maybe a new case, here is a buncha links. OC Forums is my home forum, and a bunch of great folks there.
  2. You do know that your looking at about 800-900$ for the GPU's? And 500+ easy for the CPU/Ram?
  3. Thanx Conumdrum i will definately follow those links, i know what u wanna say about learning about WC... i have been reading few of those links referred in some other post... :)

    but can you link your choice of hardware that u would be picking for the same hardware...? ill be thankfull i know it takes a lil time linking it all n stuff but ill get ur perspective aswell... :)

    ohh n the chassis ill be using is cosmos S so i might end up mounting the rad 120mmx2 on the top inside of the case... but i saw this 4x120mm thermochill rad... and i might end up with high rpm delta fan on whichever rad i end up with...

    What you think abt the GPU heatsink the msi n285's should i leave it to stock or rip off the heatsink n get a whole block(which one fits ?)
  4. DAMN... DUDE nice system!!
  5. thanx overshocked tho i have to get it.. just clearing out n researching my doubts n hardware pick for the cooling system :) n all the help suggestion appreciated...

    my professor is gone back to his country (germany) he can bring me stuff when he comes back... so i have to kind of decide in a week of research cause he will be back in 3 weeks... :P

    hope i get all the help i wanted ill he really very thankfull to all the people n once done will post videos n pics of the rig.. :)

    Note i might be doing it for the 1st time but ill try the best i got... my purpose of the machine is to save render time going for liquid cooling cause full air setup might need more care after all the place i live for some reason a lots of dust is around on the daily bases and hardcore gaming in my free time to relax... Peace.
  6. SandmanDante said:
    thanx overshocked tho i have to get it.. just clearing out n researching my doubts n hardware pick for the cooling system :) n all the help suggestion appreciated...

    my professor is gone back to his country (germany) he can bring me stuff when he comes back... so i have to kind of decide in a week of research cause he will be back in 3 weeks... :P

    hope i get all the help i wanted ill he really very thankfull to all the people n once done will post videos n pics of the rig.. :)

    Note i might be doing it for the 1st time but ill try the best i got... my purpose of the machine is to save render time going for liquid cooling cause full air setup might need more care after all the place i live for some reason a lots of dust is around on the daily bases and hardcore gaming in my free time to relax... Peace.



    if you havnt ordered the system yet, then go for a i7 975.

    And i would reccomend separate loops for this one.

    Is your professor paying for it, or whats the deal?
  7. yup he will pay for it there then ill pay him when he comes here in my currency :)
    975 isnt available here atm i presume but ill recheck..

    im getting liquid cooling stuff before the rig itself i guess or the other way around depends how soon i plan up the stuff i want...
  8. ^ yeah, separat loops should be used ( ;
  9. I can't give you links to the stuff you should buy. That teaches ya nothing, and you can't walk into watercooling without general ideas on how it all comes together. I gave ya the fishing pole, catch some fish.
  10. catching catching.... :*D

    lol conumdrum i know what u mean from ur point of view xD
  11. Well, there is no reason to get the i7965 when it is a C0 stepping when you can get the 975 D0 stepping for not that much more.
  12. Quote:
    really its c0 stepping? doesnt it come with a d0 stepping version.
    if i were you i would just get i7 920, thats if u didnt purchase the i7 965 already.
    unless you have a lot of money and dont care get the best one i7 975

    edit: y isnt my sig showing


    lol maybe ur image link broken or something re upload ur sig :P

    n well money isn't a issue i wanna go for the best i get here... so far 965 was wishing for 975 just in time ill get that, just a matter of few weeks.. :D

    i know ezkiller a lots of people advised me on my earlier thread in the custom built pc section when i asked about my hardware... most said 920.... but u have to agree the fact the difference might not be worth the price but it is a big difference :P i just hope it will perform worth the money, rofl.... i.e. save render time in the softwares >.>

    Edit : Conumdrum... can you help catch this fish called water block for MSI N285 Super pipe 1gb ? :D its 2:30 am im not sleeping at nights trying hard to catch fishes... a lil help my friend specially on the water block for that particular graphic card ;)

    Willing to setup something like this.....




    Will the Komodo's work on MSI one's i got no clue about the what they mean about "nVidia® reference design (P891*) GeForce™ GTX285 graphics cards"
  13. Yeah, try to get the 975.

    And why not phase change for the cpu rather than water?
  14. @ Overshocked Phase Change = heavy + expensive and professor might not carry n airport custom ppl might jack it :D

    @ Ezkiller what u suggest for 3 way for msi n285 ? :\
    the Parallel Setup (1st picture) one should work well... Serial Setup (second picture) i feel risky.. :S
  15. ok ezkiller ill look for some other setup :s im really worried about the graphic card setup.. *hoping some expert suggestions*
  16. Confused at the moment fishing with the rod courtesy Conumdrum :D
    Confused list so far... :D

    Pump - Laing DDC 3.2 (MCP 355) / Laing D5 (MCP 655)

    Res. - Swiftech MCRES Micro Rev 2 (Looking for more Bigger but this one is the best performing, whats the secret Oo)

    CPU WB - HeatKiller Rev 3.0 / Swiftech Apogee GTZ SE

    GPU WB - Still cant find one except the EVGA gayness -.- No1 made msi n285 WB's ? :@

    RAM WB - MIPS RAM Freezer 6 Corsair Edition POM (might get dominator gt 1600mhz 12gb as 2ghz are our of stock *lame* how could it sigh..)

    MB WB - MIPS ASUS Rampage 2 Extreme dual-chip POM / Koolance MB-ASR2E (ASUS Rampage II Extreme)

    Rad. - Prolly will hit for 120.3 as they fit in cosmos S (wondering weather 120.4 can fit in or not!?!!)

    havent worked on the small stuff... tubing will follow 1/2' i guess... rest all small things have to work on em....

    4:15 am... *ZZZy* :D
  17. Don't WC the ram, don't WC the NB/mosfets yet. No one cools their ram unless they are uninformed or they just need to because it's there. Your temps might be just fine on the Mosfets and NB/SB, why spend the money and it's a reall hassle to install that. Being your first time I can see a leak happening very very easy. Or a poor mount, shorting out the mobo.

    Learn about heatload. An i7965 needs at a Minimum a 120x2 rad all by itself. Minimum. Most who overclock get a 120x3 rad JUST for the CPU.

    3 285 in SLI means ANOTHER 120x3 rad, maybe a 120x4 or a 140x3. You will NEED two pumps, two rads, two reses in total.

    Posted in another forum by me today: "So the 280 we can say under load dissipates over 200 watts of heat, possibly 250 really overvolted and overclocked. General numbers, but good enuff for me. So your rad/fan planning for a 280 for good temps needs to be about a 10C delta.

    Delta? http://martin.skinneelabs.com/Swifte...20-Review.html

    Scroll down to the 10C delta chart, this is JUST an example, a teaching moment k?

    You have a 300 watt heatload. You want quiet fans, your happy with the water temp being 10C above the ambient room temp because it's just a GPU card, and it's not as temp sensitive as a CPU. Using the chart this rad in the review will give you what you need.

    Scroll down to the 5C delta chart. Same rad, same fans, you can ONLY cool 151 watts of heat.

    Hope this helps your journey."

    I give you a fishing rod and where to fish (links and some words to read). It's up to you to catch the fish. Once the stuff is in the door your on your own.
  18. Hmm... Conumdrum... the link doesnt work lol...

    So do you think i should not remove the superpipe n dual fans of the cards... just take a look at this once mate.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzTu-6tutp8

    I dont know its damn hot in india when mid summer im just worried arnd that phase.. i got an AC just before buying the pc to keep my room cool...... ammm... abt the mobo WB ok can ignore that... but ram WB they do generate a lot of heat n 6 sticks of 2 gigs would be too tight = more heat so i really wanted to stick with that...

    But really on a serious note the superpipe thingy should i stick to that its been hard finding WB for msi one's every1 makes evga WBs... :\ Should i just do Cpu + RAM n leave the gfx n mobo alone... ?
  19. Sorry about the links. Toms breaks long links. Here is the front of the site I tried to link to.
    Look under Martins for the MCR320 test, thats where the data is located.

    http://skinneelabs.com/ Host for Martins lab and some newer tests
    http://www.skinneelabs.com/MartinsLiquidLab/ Test results, very technical

    Whatever you want to do. I get tired of walking peeps down the path, I do it all the time. Just work it out. Maybe in a few days I'll post. Read lots .
  20. Quote:
    that link fails...
    also what case are you puttin all this stuff in


    Cosmos S i guess.... tho ppl say HAF better than it... doesnt appeal to me :S
  21. overshocked said:
    Yeah, try to get the 975.

    And why not phase change for the cpu rather than water?


    Finally confirmed 975 available here getting that instead d0 steppin OC ftw :D

    n just wondering... since its getting too complicated should i get a Cooler Master Aquagate Max n get any of the following WB for the i7 -
    1. Heat Killer 3.0
    2. Swiftech Apogee GTZ
    3. Koolance CPU 350

    n in that case weather or not i should go for a 3/8 > 1/2 tubing is it that big of a difference...

    how are the pump n reservoir in the CM Aquagate Max ? atleast just for CPU n maybe that MIPS Freezer for 6 modules of Dominator.... ???

    Expecting a reply soon enough... !!
  22. i would make a custom unit if i were you, that way you can customize the flow rate etc...etc.
  23. 1/2" tubing if you can make it work...better off that way. Its kinda like the brain teaser about the water tank that has dual 2" outlets or a single 4" outlet. Which moves more water? ...the single 4" outlet.

    NO to RAM WC'ing. Pointless. If you are that concerned, get a $17 RAM fan.
  24. ok some suggestion on this list...

    i7 WB - Heat Killer 3.0
    Pump - DDC 3.2(MCP355) (whats with the after market top mods?) or D5(MCP655) ?
    Reservoir - Swiftech MCRES Micro Rev 2
    Radiator - 120.2 / 120.3 / 120.4 which one's fits in Cosmos S ? n are good performer ???
    Tubing - 1/2 Tygon (?)
    Coolant - Gonna make it but how to add UV reactive *** to make it glow ?

    Final whats left in the above, that ill need to do the whole thing ?

    Note i need to wrap up my list soon.. i got less time so need serious help or im doomed *fear*

    Really whats with the Water Block for MSI N285 Superpipe, is there even any made for it !!?!
  25. hi everyone... hope im not talking to myself... :D

    any1 seen http://www.xspc.biz/ddcdualbayres.php in action looks good for dual loop n 2x Laing DDC 3.2 i presume..

    any testing being done on it... can save a lot of space if works good...?
  26. Dual pump res will be fine but it is much better to have two individule loops.
  27. Three words after this,
    <3 u shock.

    Note gonna update my whole shop list... btw any review on frozencpu there gelivery system good(trusted i mean)

    Edit - http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd-gtx285.html?&cat=48#tabs compatible with MSI N285 Superpipe.. looking at the card itself n the block looks like it is.. just taking inputs dont wanna get wrong stuff atleast.. :p

    thx for the reply shock !

    Basically all the Rev.2 WB for N285 supports MSI N285 superpipe board... (?)
  28. FrozenCPU is a good place, a little pricey for some things, but good. I have spent a lot of money on that site over the years.
  29. rubix_1011 said:
    FrozenCPU is a good place, a little pricey for some things, but good. I have spent a lot of money on that site over the years.


    damn fast reply.. thanx Rubix btw u got delivery via FedEx ? thats the best n fastest way n secure i guess.. :s
  30. I was just checking the forums. :)

    I have had many FedEx deliveries before, yes...I prefer them to UPS or USPS.
  31. rubix_1011 said:
    I was just checking the forums. :)

    I have had many FedEx deliveries before, yes...I prefer them to UPS or USPS.


    Glad u responded.. :)
    thanx a ton mate... i hope they can deliver it safe n sound in india via fedex.. UPS USPS im not that familiar either.. FedEx ftw :P

    thx again.. appreciate ur time..
  32. I am pretty sure they will ship overseas. I would give them an email or a call to make sure, but I think they are pretty flexible. I have called them several times for specifics as well as emails...good people.
  33. Doing my wishlist @ frozencpu :D

    btw u use WC urself rubix ?
  34. Yes, I have for about 6-7 years or so.


  35. SandmanDante said:
    Three words after this,
    <3 u shock.

    Note gonna update my whole shop list... btw any review on frozencpu there gelivery system good(trusted i mean)

    Edit - http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd-gtx285.html?&cat=48#tabs compatible with MSI N285 Superpipe.. looking at the card itself n the block looks like it is.. just taking inputs dont wanna get wrong stuff atleast.. :p

    thx for the reply shock !

    Basically all the Rev.2 WB for N285 supports MSI N285 superpipe board... (?)



    You will want to check on xoxide and see if they have some better deals ( ;
  36. Nicely done Rubix ! i like it.. :)

    chking xoxide.. thx shock
  37. hey any1 knows weather XSPC RX360 can be mounted inside the Cosmos S ??

    searching on google a lot cant find anything... should i forget the xspc rx360 n go with magicool slim360 ??

    Radiator Compatibility:
    HWLabs BlackIce GT Stealth III
    HWLabs BlackIce GT Xtreme III
    HWLabs BlackIce Pro III
    HWLabs BlackIce GT
    Watercool HTSF 360
    XSPC RS360
    XSPC R120-T
    Aquacomputer Airplex Evo
    Aquacomputer Airplex Pro
    Alphacool NexXxoS Pro III
    Magicool Aluminium 360
    Magicool Xtreme 360 Radiator
    Magicool Slim 360 Radiator

    Not Compatible:
    Thermochill PA120.3
    Swiftech MCR320 QP 360
  38. ^ It should fit... measure it.
  39. If this is the same rad it's actually pretty decent as a rad. The look good too.

    http://translate.google.com/transl [...] n&ie=UTF-8 Info on rad testing
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220593 More rad testing
  40. Conumdrum said:
    If this is the same rad it's actually pretty decent as a rad. The look good too.

    http://translate.google.com/transl [...] n&ie=UTF-8 Info on rad testing
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220593 More rad testing


    1st link broken bro.. went thru 2nd one... n dexgo (German website reviews)

    what u think conumdrum ? xspc rx360 will fit in cosmos ?? its thicker than xspc rs360 dats all i presume...

    magicool elegant color are weird, tho very nice at performance... :S

    going dual loop i need to fit atleast 1 120.3 inside the cosmos i guess... to keep it neat..n the other on top or resting on the rear side of the chassis....

    Note my hardware update -
    CPU WB - HeatKiller Rev.3
    GPU WB's - EK Water Blocks EK-FC285 GTX PCB Rev.2 SLI - Nickel x3 way sli
    Pump - Laing DDC 12V (Swiftech MCP 355) x2
    Res. - XSPC Laing DDC Reservoir x2
    Rad. - Dunno weather XSPC RX360/Magicool Elegant fits in cosmos S (please suggest)


    Working on fans for rad. n fittings please advice that should i go with these reservoir or get other seperate one's...
    N some advice on sli fitting plz :)

    Thanx a lot for all the help.. rly appreciate..
  41. Look here for the RX360 review. Very nice low speed fan rad. Yes it's thicker. One of the best rads right now.
    http://skinneelabs.com/

    So your gonna cool all that with one rad? No way. But I think you already have another rad picked out for two rads, two loops, right?

    The DDC3.2 pump with the XSPC restop is a winner.

    You can ask if the rad will fit in that case over at Xtreme Systems. Great place for info.

    Fittings, barbs are just fine and cheaper with hoseclamps.

    SLI fittings, popular one and I like in on my rig.
    http://www.dangerden.com/store/crosssli-danger-den-fittings.html
  42. nah as im getting 975 i7 so ill definately oc it so wont be doing that all with 1 rad. gotta pick 2 rad. for dual loop. :)

    just have to make my mind for the rad n ill get 2x rad i pick.. n then have to make a list of fittings as aquatuning.de doesnt provide fitting option while shopping like frozencpu so have to pick that.. n all the small stuff...

    coolant i guess will make it will get distilled water from nearby market... all i need is UC reactive additive.. for the glow n color :)

    going thru the skinelabs review wat fans u use 120mm's conumdrum.. ??
  43. Please don't make your loop water all funny and UV etc. People who use water and a biocide have clean long term problem free loops. Ones that add funny stuff sometimes do. You need color buy UV tubing.

    I use Yate Loon meduims but only bought from Petras (long story why).
    http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=596664&highlight=petra+pen
    Scythe slipstreams and gentle typhoon are popular quality fans. The Typhoons are pretty new.

    You can find a LOT of info on fans here too.
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=202394

    XS has been having database issues lately, but it IS the premier overclocking modding site in the world.
  44. whats type is more effective ??

    Serial or parallel sli cooling ?
  45. Makes little diff. Series is cheaper, less fittings.
  46. hey how much tubing for a dual loop max ? planning to keep 1 rad inside cosmos s and other on the rear.. outside... should i get 15 or 20 ft ?
  47. I get 10ft per loop. My loops are very short, so I prolly use 1/2 of that. So, 8ft per loop should be good.

    Having extra is a waste of money, having not enough.............??
  48. ^Right...you can never have too much tubing (unless you are really short on budget). You really don't want to end up short. I hate using that cheap stuff from the hardware store (crappy, vinyl, thin-walled tubing) I do, however, use the reinforced hardware store tubing for my pump feed line from my radiators; the MCP655 can pull a good deal of coolant, and I don't want those lines to collapse. I have seen that happen to folks using junk tubing.
  49. Hey just a small update, I just got some of my hardware..

    i7 975
    3 x N285
    1000W PSU (have to replace it with modular one)
    Cosmos S.

    Will get the Mobo. on monday..

    Meanwhile i was thinking abt how will i get my 2 loops in place... this wat i came up with

    CPU



    GPU



    Looking above please do comment, if im going wrong anywhere.. Cause once i get my stuff i cant order 1 or 2 fitting ill prefer getting spare instead...

    Straight Fitting for reservoir top same in both loops...

    CPU

    1. 45 Degree Rotate Compression for Heat Killer Rev.3 because straight wont fit in, they clash...
    2. Straight Compression Fitting for the Radiator.

    GPU

    1. 90 Degree Rotate for GPU In/Out, Rest SLI Fitting 1 slotter.
    2. 90 Degree Rotate for Radiator on the rear with Mounting kit.
    3. Seal to close the Serial Loop..

    Please do comment if you think anything is not the way it should be...

    And if possible plz suggest Brand fitting i should get...
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