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Hey everyone well I recently built a new tower for around 1.2k and these are the specs

Quad core 2.4
9800 GTX
SLI 780i EVGA MOBO
4GB of Ram
700 Watt PSU


Now whenever me and my cousin go to turn NOTHING shows up on the moniter... I have tried 2 moniters and a tv.

Also the quad fan spins when I turn it on, the graphics card lights up and even the MOBO lights up and says FF which means BOOT.

So anyone know whats the problem?

Im not sure if this is the same problem but the CD/DVD drive wont open when I click the button.

Thanks everyone you can either reply here or AIM me on antonio4455

Thanks again

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Reset your bios with jumper or removing cmos battery. Sounds like a mobo problem or one of your memory modules have gone bad. Try booting with a single modules until you've singled out the bad one


Message edited by blackwidow_rsa on 09-04-2008 at 07:59:03 PM
Reply to blackwidow_rsa

ok ill tell my cousin about the restart the bios

but just so you know NOTHING at all appears on the screen like we tried to do bios but nothing on teh screen

but yea thanks ill tell him

Reply to strghtupG

Clear the bios by removing the battery for 30 secs.
Check the power connection to the DVD drive.
Is the power connected to the 9800 GTX?


Message edited by evongugg on 09-04-2008 at 08:00:29 PM
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Reply to evongugg
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"700 Watt PSU"

What brand and model? For the optical drive to fail to open suggests one of your 12V rails may have gone down the crapper.

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Reply to jtt283
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It could very well be a RAM compatibility problem, try booting with just a single stick of RAM, if that doesn't work, try using a different stick of RAM (from another machine). I've run into this problem before, and in my situation it was RAM compatibility.

Reply to jwbb00
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It does sound like a power problem, unless the CD/DVD drive doesn't have the power connector connected.

Reply to Jim_L9

This could be a bad CPU, mobo, memory, Gfx card or PSU...

Could be a missing or incorrectly connected cable...

Could be incompatible hardware, ie does the mobo have the BIOS update for the CPU in question, is the CPU even on the supported list for the mobo.

have anyone who can help you out who has the kit to test each component and the skills to do it

And finally, stop saying 'teh', no need for l33t speak here...

Ktb

Reply to jamesgoddard

Try spelling it 'the' instead of 'teh'. That should fix it.

Reply to APieceOfCheese
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What OS did you install?

Reply to taso11

Did it work correctly before? Judging from the "Now whenever" stuff I'm guessing it used to work. So that would eliminate a few of the suggestions like the wrong version of the BIOS.

I'd try checking all of your connections first, possibly even switching connectors. If that doesn't do it, then I'd try a different power supply if you have one available. Even with nothing else working in a system an optical drive with power should open. It is possible that this isn't the case with all drives, but it has been for the ones I've used and in machines that I've worked on.

I kind of doubt the 'teh' was l33t speak unless he changed the rest since the initial post. It is limited to a couple of places and is a very common mistake. Why would you hassle a new poster asking for help over a typo?

Reply to clay12340

1. Do you have the extra 4 pin power connector and power supply connector properly plugged in? It sounds silly but if you didn't properly insert them at build time they may have moved just slightly and thus your board isn't getting the juice it needs. If your board also has a molex connector for extra power make sure you check that too.

2. Boot it up with one RAM Stick. If that doesn't work try the other RAM Stick.

3. What are the beep codes? Try and boot it up with one RAM stick and take out the Video card. You should get a beep code for no VGA. Depending on the motherboard you won't get a beep code if the RAM is totally fried or the CPU is fried. Even with a dead stick you should get a beep code as long as something is in the RAM slots. If not then you may have a dead board. Otherwise the Beep codes can help you figure out what's wrong. Oh yeah make sure you have something plugged into the speaker pins since it's hard to get beep codes without a speaker to give them ^_^

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Reply to megamanx00

I thought the GPU only lights up when something wasn't connected????

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Reply to customisbetter

^That sounds right. My GPU isn't lighting up and its connected properly. Unless he found one stock with LEDs in it.

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Reply to jimmysmitty

Dude, plug in your Power adapters and all will be fine. NV finally figured out that peizo beepers are annoying and integrated lights instead. If you graphics lighting up, there isn't enough power going to it.
have fun.

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Reply to customisbetter
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Man... led lights on the GPU? Why doesn't mine have dat. If I forget to plug in the power, its like a fricken smoke alarm, and scares the crap outta me. (bumps his head on the desk)

Now the led lights wouldn't have done that. (Rubs head remembering when bugs bunny asked how many lumps I wanted for my coffee)

Maybe I should RMA my video cards to get them with led lights? :oops:

Reply to Grimmy

yeah but first, try a different card and see if it works. If it does then RMA the card.
good luck!

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Reply to customisbetter

-ur led on gpu is up indicating that gpu not getting enough power
-dvd tray wont come out

 

i think its ur PSU failing.....both dvd drive and gpu power adapter could be loose but that would be a huge coincidence


Message edited by sarwar_r87 on 09-05-2008 at 09:09:28 PM
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Reply to sarwar_r87
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Somehow I've never had much luck with Nvidia cards.I do have one that works but I could never get a screen on 3 of them.That's one reason why I stuck with ATI as I've never had a problem with their graphics cards.

Reply to jj463rd

yeah, i would now say that the PSU could be failing. It happens.

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Reply to customisbetter

You misspelled THE in your title.

 

Also, your ram is the most likely culprit, especially so if you got suckered into buying the "high end ram" that typically requires more than 1.8 volt to operate.


Message edited by joefriday on 09-06-2008 at 01:59:20 AM
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That would not explain why his optical drive will not open when he pushes the button on it.

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Reply to jtt283

ok, can you please give us links to the products you used? That would make this a lot easier.

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Reply to customisbetter
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Yes, I'm still wondering what that PSU is. Isn't there a 700W Apevia "Warlock" model?

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Reply to jtt283

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TPXULC --- Ram


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00118FM58 --- MOBO

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HJ9CEO - POWER SUPPLY UNIT


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0016OK86A --- Graphics card


Thanks for all the replies, the computers being stored at my friends because his room is tiles and its a big open space compared to mine and today im going to try to use a 500 watt PSU and try all the other stuff u guys said.

Again thanks

Reply to strghtupG
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Hmmm, that OCZ should have been a very nice PSU. If that's the problem, you got a rare bad one indeed.

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Reply to jtt283

no prob.
also try taking all the ram dimms out and try to boot. If it beeps then thats a good sign that your motherboard is functioning.
hope it works out!!!


Message edited by customisbetter on 09-06-2008 at 10:16:33 PM
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Reply to customisbetter

My money is still on the ram.

Reply to joefriday
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joefriday wrote :

My money is still on the ram.



Mine is too. I got to the thread late, but I wonder if his mobo has a light that's on showing power? Can he hear error beeps that identify RAM or graphics card power? If it's just a GPU that's not set right, then he could hear the PC posting without getting video. If the IDE DVD drive's hooked up backwards, then it won't power up.

The best way to isolate a problem like this is to troubleshoot one possibility at a time. I'd see if it booted without the DVD ROM hooked up. If not, try resetting the GPU. If no go, then one stick of RAM at a time. Getting a post screen is the goal. I remember occasional motherboard shorts due to flimsy AT cases and screws in the old days, but haven't seen much of that for years. If there's a light on the mobo then it's probably fine.

If the PSU fan's running then that's probably okay too. Even no name PSU's work for awhile before they cause problems. I'm assuming he has enough amps on the 12 volt rail for the GPU? Situations like this is why I think there should be IGP's on every motherboard, even enthusiast Crossfire and SLI parts. That provides another option in troubleshooting.

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Reply to yipsl
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If it is RAM problem, BIOS would provide beep code.

Looking at the motherboard, it requires a 8 pin 12V rail, and looked at the PSU, didn't seem to find one. some older generation PSU have a lot power output, but they do not have the 8 pin 12V rail, or only 1 of them, I would imagine with his system, he needs at least 2, 1 into the mobo, 1 into the graphics card, unless the 9800GTX uses a 6 pin rail

The problem is clearly the Mobo, CPU and some other crucial devices not getting enough power.

I hope those people who putting their money on RAM did not put a lot down!

Reply to pete4r

Hopefully we'll see what the problem ends up being. I can recount a few times when I had what was clearly a ram issue, with not even a peep out of the motherboard to indicate as such.

Reply to joefriday
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pete4r wrote :

If it is RAM problem, BIOS would provide beep code.

Looking at the motherboard, it requires a 8 pin 12V rail, and looked at the PSU, didn't seem to find one. some older generation PSU have a lot power output, but they do not have the 8 pin 12V rail, or only 1 of them, I would imagine with his system, he needs at least 2, 1 into the mobo, 1 into the graphics card, unless the 9800GTX uses a 6 pin rail

The problem is clearly the Mobo, CPU and some other crucial devices not getting enough power.

I hope those people who putting their money on RAM did not put a lot down!



I've known people who didn't hook the speaker up correctly at first and didn't get any beeps, but yes, that should be able to identify a problem if it's RAM or GPU. Didn't check out his motherboard specifically, but the 4 or 8 pin power for the CPU needs to be hooked up. I'd assumed he'd done that correctly, but if his PSU doesn't have the right connectors, then an adaptor, or a new PSU is in order.

When I looked for an 8 pin GPU power adapter to use an Antec Neo 550 with my 3870x2, a guy at Fry's tried to sell me a two molex to 8 pin CPU adapter, I just got a Neo 650 instead. Though people here on the board told me you only needed two 6 pin power for the 3870x2, the factory overclocked model needed the 8 pin.

Didn't bet any money but it's often RAM not set right or just DOA. That's why I asked if he had a light on the motherboard to indicate power.

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Reply to yipsl

I returned the Mobo and I should get $229 refunded into my amazon account but I have an extra $100 so anyone know what kind of mobo I should get??

Also I listed the PSU link in one of my posts so if you guys can tell if its the new kind or old Id really appreciate it.

BTW my cousin does all the connections and stuff but he is reading this thread.

Again thanks everyoen for all the replys!

Reply to strghtupG
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Unless you already have a pair of those nVidia GPUs, I would think you'd be well-served by a P45 board. Save your money; put it toward software, a UPS, or your next upgrade.
I remain unconvinced, however, that you've solved your problem, as I don't think a bad mobo would prevent your optical drive's door from opening.
The PSU you have should have been a very good one, with all the connectors you need for a modern system. If anything, it is a little overkill, but that is not a bad thing for a PSU. OCZ should be top quality, but perhaps you got that rare bad one.

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Reply to jtt283

For motherboards, what brand did he buy? Personally I have a Gigabyte motherboard and it's been pretty reliable. And it's not that expensive of a board. I've also had good luck with biostar as well.

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