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In <1107290739.008998.211220@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> on 1 Feb 2005
12:45:39 -0800, "DoctorZ" <czervas@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>In <qgPLd.4841$m31.64417@typhoon.sonic.net> on Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:47:02 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
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>>In <1107279405.233952.107080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> on 1 Feb 2005
>>09:36:45 -0800, "DoctorZ" <czervas@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>>>Voice coverage with Cingular is now decreased.
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>>Actually increased.
>I am not sure what you are basing this increase coverage on.
Before the merger, Cingular and ATTWS had only limited cross-romaing; after
the merger, there is free reciprocal roaming between the two networks. Since
the two carriers had different coverage areas, this significantly increased
coverage.
>I deal
>with real life experience and Cingular confirming they have no coverage
>in those areas.
That's certainly possible -- no carrier has coverage in all areas -- but not
worse than it was before.
>They refused to provide another GAIT phone. Therefore
>GAIT no longer exists with Cingular at least in the areas I travel in.
You can easily buy a GAIT phone from a erd-party; e.g., on eBay.
>My 6340i would not could, not work in several states after they killed
>GAIT.
What makes you think GAIT was killed?
>I have had a V720 with Verizon American Choice plan and it worked
>in 22 states metro, rural road without fail.
So stick with Verizon. There is no one perfect carrier. Cingular works
better for me in the areas I care about, is a better deal, and has better
hardware, so I stick with Cingular. "Different strokes ..." and all that sort
of thing.
>Cingular data is not worth $20/month.
I personally think it's a great bargain.
>I pay Verizon $170 for their data
>services. Cingular has nothing to compete, either in speed or coverage.
I disagree -- Cingular EDGE is both fast and more widely available than
comparable Verizon data service.
>I had both voice and data plans with both for 2 years. Anyone can
>consult the Wall Street Journal for the differences in Verizon and
>Cingular data access.
Whatever that means.
>Cingular is planning a 3G rollout.
Cingular already has UMTS in a number of cities (including my local area)
thanks to the ATTWS merger.
>Whenever Cingular finds the billions to roll out UMTS,
Cingular is moving to increase UMTS coverage.
>I wonder what
>speed Verizon will be offering by then?
Who knows? What I do know is that Cingular has very good speed now.
>Except for ftp Verizon is as good as my BellSouth 3Mbs/384Kbs DSL in
>interactive performance.
Speed is worse, and latency is much worse.
>It is far more reliable.
That says more about BellSouth than Verizon. In general, DSL is much more
reliable than cellular data.
>I waited 6 days for
>Bellsouth to fix a total outage and 3 years to fix a disconnect problem
>on the DSL. Verizon Internet access has kept a VPN connection travel
>from WNC to Atlanta with no drops.
Apples and oranges. My own DSL (Sonic/SBC) was dead reliable for two years.
No cellular is that good.
>For reliability reasons only, I am going to drop $120+ a pay Bellsouth
>landline and use my Verizon only. I just have to schedule Brinks to
>modify the alarm for cell phone instead of landline use. I already use
>T-mobile for high-speed ftp (neither cellular, cable nor dsl offer
>great upload speed)
Again, that's just a function of your area. High upload speeds are readily
available in my area.
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