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eddieroolz   09-06-2008 at 08:59:00 AM

Hi guys.

I'm new here, so first off I'd like to send a shout out to everyone out there!

The thing is, I'm having a problem with my new computer.

I got this custom built by my mom's friend's relative for a rather cheap price of $460. My laptop broke down recently so I really needed a machine.

He used a MSI 7236 2.0 Rev. A1 motherboard which has a 945P chipset. I know that its rather low-end, but I didn't have a choice. He also paired it with 2GB of low-cost DDR-667 RAM. On top of that, he put on a Core 2 Duo E7200 processor.

Here's where it all began. He had Windows XP Service Pack 3 installed for me. I liked Vista, so I upgraded it to Home Premium 32-bit. But installation took an hour and half long, and it always failed. In the end, somehow I managed to get it to install.

Then weird things continued. I was given a Windows Experience rating of 1.0! The processor 's calculation per second was crippled at 1.9, and so was RAM transfer speeds. The only upside was the hard disk transfer rate.

I booted into the BIOS several times to check, but the processor was running at 1.6GHz on a multiplier of 6. I know that there is a sticky on that, and I did read it, but it didn't solve my problem. CPU-Z identified it to be running at 1.6GHz, and so did Core Temp. Only RMClock detected a full 2.53GHz, but that was after I disabled a lot of Speedstep features.

Right now, with PCPitstop Overdrive, my processor has roughly 12000MIPS which is a shame compared to my friend's Pentium Dual-Core which had 15000MIPS. I don't know why my processor is so crippled to this degree.

Anything would help.

Thanks, and hats off to a great community!

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Grimmy   09-06-2008 at 11:00:40 AM
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Whelp... speed step shouldn't really interfere with the PC's performance in the degree your saying. I use speed step and vista 64 shows 5.9 on my rebuilt system.

 

Thing is, if you really want speed step disabled:

 

1.) make sure EIST is disabled
2.) make sure that C1E is disabled
3.) make sure the multiplier is set to the stock multiplier
4.) make sure the ram is set correctly for timing and voltage

 

One thing I guess people may overlook when disabling speed step, they just disable it, and leaving the multiplier on the lowest, perhaps assuming it will go back to their stock multiplier in windows which isn't the case.

 

So as I explained in the steps above, you need to manually be sure everything is set correctly to run the CPU at full speed at all times.

 

Not all bios menus are the same, but some things can be hidden, so you need to do some research in finding those hidden menus that may be one reason why you may not be able to set things manually. On my MSI P6N MB, the C1E function is hidden under CPU features. Hitting F4 (I believe) brings up the option to disable it, as an example.


Message edited by Grimmy on 09-06-2008 at 11:02:27 AM
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eddieroolz   09-06-2008 at 12:37:19 PM
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That makes sense - I'll take a look into that.

I found out that my motherboard does not officially support the 45nm E7xxx and E8xxxx processors. Could this be the reason too?

Funny thing is, when I try to increase the stock speed of 266Mhz to say, 280Mhz the processor actually slows down...Vista detects the processor to be running at around 300MHz. Something like 48*6. Really weird...

And my E7200 idles at around 60C - and up to 75C under load. I know this isn't normal...should I be taking a look at the fan and the heatsink?

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iluvgillgill   09-06-2008 at 01:07:54 PM
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i think the best thing to do is to fully reset the BIOS so everything is back at stock.

but i think you have a incompatability there,maybe that 945 mobo was that person's old PC and just sold it on to you!not a very good friend is he?

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eddieroolz   09-06-2008 at 01:09:11 PM
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Hahaha, who knows eh?

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iluvgillgill   09-06-2008 at 01:19:15 PM
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yeah maybe he is desperate for money eh?LOL

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