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July 12, 2008 10:07:24 PM

I am building two new comps as workstations at my business and am sure I went a little overboard. Here is what I have planned.

GIGABYTE GA-P31-S3G LGA 775 Intel P31 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 (swapped from home system)
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) (from home)
ASUS EN8600GTTOP/HTDP/256 GeForce 8600 GT 256MB
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX Power Supply
GIGABYTE GZ-X5BPD-500 Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case


GIGABYTE GA-P31-S3G LGA 775 Intel P31 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale
CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
ASUS EN8600GTTOP/HTDP/256 GeForce 8600 GT 256MB
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX Power Supply
GIGABYTE GZ-X5BPD-500 Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case


Now for my home system this is what I am running with the new processor and ram.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale (New for home :wahoo:  )
MSI P6N SLI-FI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) (new for home :wahoo:  )
EVGA 256-P2-N765-AR GeForce 8600GTS 256MB
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-05
CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX
XION Onyx XON-303 Black/Blue Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Here is were my dumb noob questions begin.

First off will the 430W PSU with 18A on the 12V rail be enough for the two work comps?

Did I screw up and get to fast of ram for the second build with the E7200? Or will that be okay?

Okay I know the work computers are a little excessive, but I am sick of the turd I currently have. And I wanted to run dual monitors. Now for my home system I just orderd the E8400, but I am thinking I should cancel and get a Q6600. I dont play games on my computer. I really just use it as a workstation to do random stuff. HD video burning, going to hook it up to my Home theater, nothing all that special. I am thinking for the extra $25 bones the Q6600 would be better, but WTF do I know. Keep in mind I dont mess with O/C'ing or anything like that. When I want to go fast I get on a motorcycle. :sol:  I just dont have the time to mess with O/C'ing.

Sorry for the long post with all the dumb questions, but any advice would be nice. And if I screwed up anything else dont hesitate to tell me. You guys have forgot more than I know about this stuff.
July 12, 2008 11:10:29 PM

Your work computers hardly seem excessive by today's standards...maybe even underpowered by some standards. Interesting choice in the P31 chipset...low man on the totem pole. Also you chose very conservative dual-core processors as well...very conservative but good for MS Office and the like.

Yes, the 430W for those configs is just fine.

If you're going to use dual-cores (which is absolutely fine) stick with at least a E8400. I'd recommend the Q6600 in your case, better longevity.

Cheers and good luck.
July 12, 2008 11:48:04 PM

We are a retail store and these to comps are only going to be used to multitask in the office. Excel, IE, no real computing. LOL my crappy dell would probably be okay with its P4 at 2.53ghz if it didnt have 512mb or ram.

Whew I was worried I screwed up with the small PSU and the 18A on the 12V. I kept reading stuff that says 12V rail 12V rail and though I screwed up.

I knew you were going to say get the Q6600. I almost ordered it before anyone even responded. I didnt realize it was only $25 more at Newegg. And I think I had looked and saw the FSB was only 1066 and thought that with the 2.4 gHz clock speed would make it slower than the 3.0 ghz of the E8400 and 1300 FSB speed. There I go thinking again. I guess I will return the E8400 and buy the Q6600 then.
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July 12, 2008 11:52:09 PM

Fogot to add will I even notice a difference from my E6600 to the Q6600? I like the computer to be snappy when bouncing around from program to program. I dont really care if it will render a movie 1 minute faster.

And also did I overbuy the ram if I am going to use the Q6600?
July 12, 2008 11:56:21 PM

Lower fsb is desirable. You want lower fsb coupled with higher multiplier. It puts less stress on the motherboard chipset, and requires lower ram clock, which makes it easier and more stable to overclock. Q6600's 1066mhz stock fsb is an advantage over 1333mhz fsb. You can always bump it up to 1600 at 3.6ghz for an easy one minute oc.
July 13, 2008 12:02:41 AM

O WTF do I know. LOL. I wont be doing any OC'ing. Everyone in the house uses the comp so it has to be idiot proof. And I may be the idiot. Anything else I should look at to speed up the home comp. HDD or anything else. I am not trying to spend a bunch of $$$$ on this, but if a small amount of $$$ will help then I am there.
July 13, 2008 12:10:29 AM

O and I picked the P31 because it was cheap and it seemed like it had everything I needed. Is it bad?

Is there any reason if I switch to the Q6600 that I should have the PC8500 Ram in any of the 3 builds?

As you can see I really know jack crap about this stuff so your guys input is really appreciated.

July 13, 2008 12:22:18 AM

ThrottleAbuse said:
O and I picked the P31 because it was cheap and it seemed like it had everything I needed. Is it bad?

Is there any reason if I switch to the Q6600 that I should have the PC8500 Ram in any of the 3 builds?

As you can see I really know jack crap about this stuff so your guys input is really appreciated.

P31 is bad if you ask the geeks in this forum. But then, they're used to higher end hardware. It's okay if you don't overclock.

Although p31 starts at $60, while the far superior performing p43/45 starts at $75. So p31 is far from the best bang for the buck at this point.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Q6600 use a high 9x multiplier. At 1600mhz (4x400) fsb, 9x400=3.6ghz, which means 2x400 = 800mhz ddr2 at the ideal 1:1 multiplier. So 1066mhz ddr2 will not be necessary at 3.6ghz.
July 13, 2008 12:37:09 AM

Layman's terms dagger layman. That flew over my head like a P51 mustang. So err send the ram back too and get PC6400 for all my builds?

Looks like I made all kinds of mistakes. I picked those MotherBoards because they took 1066 Ram and now I dont even need that ram. Seems like I should probably send back the MB's too and select something else.
July 13, 2008 12:40:49 AM

ThrottleAbuse said:
Layman's terms dagger layman. That flew over my head like a P51 mustang. So err send the ram back too and get PC6400 for all my builds?

Looks like I made all kinds of mistakes. I picked those MotherBoards because they took 1066 Ram and now I dont even need that ram. Seems like I should probably send back the MB's too and select something else.

It'll work fine. If you already have them, keep them. It's just not the most balanced system. Doesn't mean it won't work. I thought you didn't buy those yet.
July 13, 2008 12:44:12 AM

Throttle, the E6600 is simply half of the processor that the Q6600 is. ...for many things you may not notice any difference, especially if you're running Windows XP. If you're running or connsidering running Vista I'd say that the Q6600 might offer smoother computing...for me, a quad Q9450 was easily subjectively smoother than a higher clocked dual E6850 in Vista.

The machines you spec'd for work are really fine for Windows XP 32-bit, should that be your choice. If you're considering any flavor of Vista you may want more RAM at some point but you'll start out fine as is.

Further, you'd be better off (peformance-wise) with a P43/45 mobo. Perhaps this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 13, 2008 12:49:16 AM

XP on the work comps.

XP for now at home. Vista at some point. I had heard I would need more ram so I am not worried there.

I did buy everything except the Q6600. I was going off of what I learned last year when I build my home system which was my first build. It seems as I should almost start from scratch. LOL
July 13, 2008 12:51:44 AM

You'll be fine with what you've stated. I simply think a Q6600 would give you satisfactory performance for longer than an E6600 or E7200...especially as you upgrade software.
July 13, 2008 1:13:43 AM

So would these be better builds. I have no problem with returning stuff and reordering. I just want to do it right. Should have came here first.

Work Comp #1

MSI P43 Neo3-F LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 (swapped from home system)
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) (from home)
ASUS EN8600GTTOP/HTDP/256 GeForce 8600 GT 256MB
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX Power Supply
GIGABYTE GZ-X5BPD-500 Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Work Comp #2

MSI P43 Neo3-F LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
ASUS EN8600GTTOP/HTDP/256 GeForce 8600 GT 256MB
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX Power Supply
GIGABYTE GZ-X5BPD-500 Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Home Computer

Intel Q6600 (New for home )
MSI P6N SLI-FI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)(new for home )
EVGA 256-P2-N765-AR GeForce 8600GTS 256MB
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-05
CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX
XION Onyx XON-303 Black/Blue Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Keep in mind I have all the stuff for the home Comp and am just swapping the old E6600 and G.Skill Ram to one of the Work Comps. What you guys think about these builds now?
July 13, 2008 1:24:53 AM

That 650i is really bottlenecking q6600 badly. It's just unfit for a quad. It'd be better if the p43 from e6600 is used for the q6600 instead. :p 

Also, consider getting 2 more gb of ram. 2 isn't enough those days. They're so dirt cheap anyways.
July 13, 2008 1:41:50 AM

+1

2GB is really not enough for the long-term...unless you're going to stick to XP 32bit. Even if XP remains your choice, RAM is so cheap that you its hard to resist the 4GB sweet-spot.
July 13, 2008 1:49:07 AM

So how does this look? I did some Motherboard swaping. I am wondering if the MSI P6N would be better with the Work Comp#2. If you cant tell I will be using the Work Comp#2 and the other Manager Work Comp #1. So I obviously want the better setup.

Work Comp #1

MSI P6N SLI-FI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 (swapped from home system)
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) (from home)
ASUS EN8600GTTOP/HTDP/256 GeForce 8600 GT 256MB
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX Power Supply
GIGABYTE GZ-X5BPD-500 Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Work Comp #2

MSI P43 Neo3-F LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
ASUS EN8600GTTOP/HTDP/256 GeForce 8600 GT 256MB
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX Power Supply
GIGABYTE GZ-X5BPD-500 Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Home Computer

Intel Q6600 (New for home )
ASUS P5Q LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)(new for home )
EVGA 256-P2-N765-AR GeForce 8600GTS 256MB
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-05
CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX
XION Onyx XON-303 Black/Blue Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
July 13, 2008 1:57:09 AM

Will the 4 gig of ram actually do anything in XP?

And do I have to get all the exact same RAM if I go 4 gig. I am hunting deals and the rebates only let you do it once. Maybe get some 2 gig sticks like these.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

They are the same company, but one goes on less volts. And has timing that is maybe better. I dont really know. What is more important. Or what will work with my system.
July 13, 2008 2:08:38 AM

ThrottleAbuse said:
Will the 4 gig of ram actually do anything in XP?

And do I have to get all the exact same RAM if I go 4 gig. I am hunting deals and the rebates only let you do it once. Maybe get some 2 gig sticks like these.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

They are the same company, but one goes on less volts. And has timing that is maybe better. I dont really know. What is more important. Or what will work with my system.

The second one's timing is better, which means faster operation. Nothing you'll be able to feel though. The 2.1v isn't ideal, but should be fine. Considering the second one is cheaper and faster, it's better to get it.

As for 4gb of ram, if you use 32bit version of XP, it'll be able to use anywhere from 3.2-3.5gb of it. If you use 64bit, it'll use everything.
July 13, 2008 2:44:00 AM

I've had a good experience with the OCZ HPC Reapers. You don't have to get all of the same RAM but it can sure make your life easier, especially when overclocking...simply stated.
July 13, 2008 2:55:55 AM

What do you guys think of the last builds. Does that sound good? You guys have been an awesome help.

July 13, 2008 3:01:30 AM

Dagger made another sound recommendation to perhaps forgo the 650i'd motherboard...if you can.
July 13, 2008 4:03:00 AM

I cant get rid of that MB. It is one I have had since last year. Actually it is possibly dead right now. My home comp would crash and give me some General Protection Error. The MSI guys said it was probably the MB so I sent it in for service last week.

I was also thinking about this MB as they just used it in the sub $2000 and $1000 builds here. I would swap that out for the P45 board in the Home build. Same price. Or is there a reason to stay away from the 750i too?

MSI P7N SLI Platinum

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
July 13, 2008 4:11:11 AM

Just realized the Gigabite P45 board only has one IDE input. I need two to run some older HDD's and spare DVD drive.

If I forgot to mention I also use my home comp as a HTPC. Not if that has anything to do with the price of beans.
July 13, 2008 2:09:08 PM

ThrottleAbuse said:
Just realized the Gigabite P45 board only has one IDE input. I need two to run some older HDD's and spare DVD drive.

If I forgot to mention I also use my home comp as a HTPC. Not if that has anything to do with the price of beans.



Nearly all new motherboards has only one IDE port, which handles 2 drives. It's considered obsolete. A SATA dvd burner cost around $25.

Or you can use an adaptor like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 13, 2008 5:54:41 PM

I saw that ASUS MB it looks nice. Is there a reason to stay away from the 750i stuff? That MSI P7N SLI Platinum was raved about by the article on budget builds so I thought it must be good. I also can get an EVGA MB for about the same price $159

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Does the 750i board offer anything more or less than a P45 board? I was thinking the EVGA the whole time as that is who made my graphics card.

I here ya on just getting another DVD player. LOL then what do I do with the old one?
July 13, 2008 6:25:13 PM

I'm not going to purport to know all of the different features of the different chipsets. I have read recently of customers having some data integrity issues with nVidia's 700 series chipsets. However, I did have an 680i-based Asus Striker Extreme that proved to be a nice board. I think today, right-now, the Intel chipsets are offering a little better performance so that's where I'd spend my money.
July 13, 2008 7:50:32 PM

So after reading the reviews at Newegg I am going to pass on the MSI board. Odd that is was so well reviewed here then poorly at Newegg. So I am leaning towards the 750i chipsets just in case I want to go SLI in the future. I know you halycon suggested the ASUS board, but if you could get the EVGA board for almost the same money $10 more would you still go ASUS. What about you Dagger?
July 13, 2008 8:04:56 PM

ThrottleAbuse said:
So after reading the reviews at Newegg I am going to pass on the MSI board. Odd that is was so well reviewed here then poorly at Newegg. So I am leaning towards the 750i chipsets just in case I want to go SLI in the future. I know you halycon suggested the ASUS board, but if you could get the EVGA board for almost the same money $10 more would you still go ASUS. What about you Dagger?

Those brands matter less than the underlying chipset, such as p45, x48, 750i etc. Compared to p45 and x38/48, 750i performs badly, ocs badly, runs hotter, causes more vdroop, does not support loadline calibration, sometimes cause bus data corruption, has more ram compatibility problems... etc. It's certainly not the worst chipset out there, but has a its fair share of problems. Other than sli, there is no advantage. With it, you'll have to worry about if the model of ram you got will work correctly with the chipset, which is hit or miss. To me, that alone is not worth the headaches.

A x38/48 or P45 chipset board will take any ddr2 ram, and is basically trouble free.
July 13, 2008 8:47:40 PM

Jeez when its laid out like that the 750i sounds like the black friggin plague.

So back I go to P45 I guess.

I can get the P5Q-Pro for the same price as the P5Q so I guess I will go that route.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Unless this Gigabyte has a better chip for surround sound audio for my HT.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And both these have a FSB of 1600/1333. Is that going to cause any issues with the Q6600?
July 13, 2008 8:57:27 PM

You might say Dagger just stabbed the 750i. ...did make it sound like the plague. LOL.
July 13, 2008 9:33:43 PM

It's fine with q6600. Higher 1600mhz native fsb support just means you can overclock the cpu to 3.6ghz (9x400) without overclocking the motherboard.
July 14, 2008 12:21:42 AM

So either of you guys know what would be better as far as HD audio from the ASUS or the Gigabyte I mentioned? Or quality of board wise what would you guys vote for out of those two?
July 14, 2008 1:51:02 AM

ThrottleAbuse said:
So either of you guys know what would be better as far as HD audio from the ASUS or the Gigabyte I mentioned? Or quality of board wise what would you guys vote for out of those two?

Asus tends to cut corners on raw material (cheaper caps, lighter heatsink to save copper, EPU running on software power regulation instead of hardware...etc.), although you won't notice a difference in performance, and the board will be obsolete long before it breaks down.Gigabyte is known for better quality.

You won't notice a difference in onboard hd audio from either one.

Pick whatever is cheaper.
July 14, 2008 2:34:03 AM

Alright the ASUS it is. I can get it for $129 shipped.

As far as HD audio goes. Should I be buying a seperate card?
July 14, 2008 2:51:02 AM

ThrottleAbuse said:
Alright the ASUS it is. I can get it for $129 shipped.

As far as HD audio goes. Should I be buying a seperate card?

Onboard is fine. You won't hear a difference.
July 14, 2008 9:57:05 AM

ThrottleAbuse said:
Alright the ASUS it is. I can get it for $129 shipped.

As far as HD audio goes. Should I be buying a seperate card?


Unless you have pretty good speakers or headphones dagger is right, you won't hear any difference.
July 15, 2008 5:58:31 AM

I think I will need a card then. I got about $20k in stereo equipment in my HT. I am a little into HT and movies. Any suggestions on a card?

The last build was my first ever. It was pretty staight forward. I built everything, setup the bios, installed winXP and was happy. With the two work comps I think that is the same route I will take. Since my Home comp is using many of the same parts and the same HDD what do I need to do to get it going. I dont want to reformat and erase everything on the HDD. What should I do after I put it all together. Setup bios. Then ????
July 15, 2008 11:48:51 AM

I'd recommend an Asus Xonar, they're very highly rated with great specs (for a consumer sound card):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

If you want to use your PCI-E:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do read the reviews.

I'm also a fan of the Creative X-Fi but they're not so popuplar right now, there's a lot of people with an anti-Creative Labs spirit these days. That's Creative's fault for poor drivers (now fixed, IMO) and lacking customer support. However, I am quite pleased the sound of my X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro in Vista 64.
July 15, 2008 4:50:35 PM

Instead of sweating and worrying about all these processors, get a xeon processor, yes it is more expensive, becuase even the cheapest and lowest xeon will murder all these processors mentioned on this thread!! It is worth it, and they last and long time. You can run any normal application on a xeon, even the most power hungry games and programs out there as of today!
July 15, 2008 8:57:35 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Instead of sweating and worrying about all these processors, get a xeon processor, yes it is more expensive, becuase even the cheapest and lowest xeon will murder all these processors mentioned on this thread!! It is worth it, and they last and long time. You can run any normal application on a xeon, even the most power hungry games and programs out there as of today!



Blackhawk, while I'm sure you mean well that statement seems false. E.g., http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ...a lower end Xeon, perhaps not the lowest.

How is it, exactly, that the above noted Xeon will "murder" an E8400 or Q6600?
July 15, 2008 10:54:20 PM

"Xeon" is a commerical name that covers a wide range of chips, based on a variety of architectures. For example, a Cornoe Xeon and Cornoe Core Duo is based on the same Cornoe architecture and perform identically.
July 16, 2008 1:06:21 AM

Thanks for the ideas on the sound card.

So what do I do about getting this thing to run right after building it. I dont want to erase my HDD.
July 16, 2008 1:22:17 AM

dagger said:
"Xeon" is a commerical name that covers a wide range of chips, based on a variety of architectures. For example, a Cornoe Xeon and Cornoe Core Duo is based on the same Cornoe architecture and perform identically.


Dagger, while that's pretty obvious the flat statement that a Xeon will murder an E8400 or Q6600 because its a Xeon is rediculous. My response to Blackhawk was, of course, facetious. A xeon 3060 = an E6600...don't think that'll be murdering anything.
July 16, 2008 3:10:30 AM

Ok so the home comp is done and ready to be plugged in. Not sure what to do about WinXp. Any help please.
July 16, 2008 8:56:58 AM

Should I be manually upping the voltage to the ram and setting the timings? Or should I just leave all that on auto? Doesnt seem to recongize the timing settings correctly.

I think I got the home comp working correctly. Still not sure if I did everything with winXP correctly.
July 16, 2008 10:13:44 AM

You do have to set the voltage and timings manually for some RAM, especially overclocking RAM.
July 16, 2008 4:57:14 PM

I will set the voltage for the RAM. The one set has some EPP or something, that allows you to look in the BIOS and see what the specs are. But the BIOS doesnt seem to be setting it correctlly as it is showing different timings.

You have been a great help so far. Is it okay that I just fired it up and let windows XP add the new hardware and all the drivers from the MB disk?
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