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Q8200! bye bye Q6600?

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September 8, 2008 4:58:37 AM

Its here and Its on Newegg now at 225$
I definitely got to see how far it goes with its x7 multiplier...

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September 8, 2008 5:16:20 AM

Don't replace your Q6600. Under any condition. Like stated, the Q6600 has double the cache, higher multiplier, etc. It's just better. And its cheaper than that Q8200 PoS...
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September 8, 2008 5:35:24 AM

The Q8200 is not a POS. Its just not as good as the Q6600. But as prices come down (probably with Nehalems release) it will have its section in the low end quads because someday there will no longer be a Q6600.

More than likely the Q6600 will stop being produced by the end of this year and the Q9550 should take its place with this, as I said before just being a low end quad core used to slowly get rid of the 45nm Penryn based dual cores.
September 8, 2008 8:48:06 AM

The main drawback of the Q8200 is the 7x multi, which will make overclocking past 3.2GHz difficult.

At stock it should be similar in performance to the Q6600. Its clocked slightly lower (2.33GHz vs 2.4GHz) and does have a smaller L2 cache, but the 45nm process is ~5% faster per clock than 65nm so that evens things up somewhat.

Being 45nm based it'll also run a lot cooler than the Q6600, plus it has SSE4.1.

So basically, for anyone looking at serious overclocking, the Q6600 remains the best choice. The Q8200 however is no 'POS', it does have several advantages over the Q6600 as I pointed out, its just not suited for heavy overclocking.
September 8, 2008 9:16:55 AM

This chip is not a PoS but it is nothing more than a budget chip. Its like going to a car lot and saying that new generation 1.8 litre engine car is a PoS because it can't keep up with my previous generation 4 litre engine car. Its just a different area of competition.

Intel wants to put pressure on AMD in the budget chip arena (AMD is getting to big there perhaps or a preventative measure perhaps?) and this chip is the perfect way. On par with their chips performance wise, cheaper(in the near future), cooler, more eco friendly...
September 8, 2008 10:23:32 AM

Meh I still like my Q6600, and see no reason to swap it out.
September 8, 2008 4:06:44 PM

Q8200 = meh
September 28, 2008 2:39:39 PM

The Q8200 is 300mhz slower, and actually beats the Q6600 in COD, and Vantage at stock. So, it really doesn't kick it's ass but keeps up with it.

Although, the Q6600 will pull away from it on OC'ing it to a high end.

So I agree... Q8200=meh since it only has a x7 multiplier.

Edit:

And the Q8200 cost 35-40 more then an OEM or Retail Q6600.
September 28, 2008 6:09:36 PM

Grimmy said:
The Q8200 is 300mhz slower, and actually beats the Q6600 in COD, and Vantage at stock. So, it really doesn't kick it's ass but keeps up with it.

Although, the Q6600 will pull away from it on OC'ing it to a high end.

So I agree... Q8200=meh since it only has a x7 multiplier.

Edit:

And the Q8200 cost 35-40 more then an OEM or Retail Q6600.


That's because it pretty much just came out. In no time it will be priced the same or near the Q6600. That's how it is... with everything lol.
September 28, 2008 6:11:20 PM

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YOUR ALL WRONG!
Q8200 is better. Check out these benchmarks!

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,660917/Reviews/PCGH_...

In reality Q8200 kicks Q6600's ass


Because as everybody knows, 3dmark and cod are the be all end all of CPU abilities. Screw common sence and looking at prices and specs, go with what 3dmark tells you. You go right out and you buy that Q8200 and prove us wrong. Its your world buddy.
September 30, 2008 11:05:21 AM

i think eventually the price on this wil ldrop to below that of the q6600, and we will start to see, it be sold to OEm like a dell at really low prices, and get put into network client that require a bit more power, and low end home machines.
September 30, 2008 2:04:50 PM

Well, the Q6600 is phased out now isn't it? So when the supply goes low, the prices will linger or perhaps go higher.
September 30, 2008 3:16:10 PM

Even if it does get phased out they will still be around, and shouldnt go up. Ebay helps stop that.
September 30, 2008 3:17:01 PM

Heh.. I won't shop at ebay.
September 30, 2008 3:26:50 PM

Either would I for something like a cpu, but a lot of people do.
October 2, 2008 3:19:38 AM

spathotan said:
Phased out? Hardly, its arguably the best selling proc in the past 3 years, not to mention its had lasting power against the Q9000's. Retails and OEM's still available on Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Its not going anywhere.


Yes, because there were Core 2 Quads out when the Athlon 64's were dominating.
Quads were released sometime in November 2006.

On a positive note, I agree that they probably won't be phased out anytime soon. Remember how long the E6600 sold before being phased out?
October 2, 2008 3:40:54 AM

^Thats prolly why the e6600 was phased out early, they used all the E6600 cores to make the Q6600s. :oops: 
October 2, 2008 3:43:29 AM

doomsdaydave11 said:
Yes, because there were Core 2 Quads out when the Athlon 64's were dominating.
Quads were released sometime in November 2006.

On a positive note, I agree that they probably won't be phased out anytime soon. Remember how long the E6600 sold before being phased out?


I know when the quad was released. My point and the fact is the chip has been one of the best selling procs in years, and one of the more popular. And the E6600 has not been phased out, its still on the market, although at a dumbfounding $230.
October 2, 2008 7:32:52 AM

The dumbfounding $230 is due to the fact they are out of stock. Pretty much meaning you really can't get a brand spanking new retail E6600 out of the box, which in turn has been phased out.

The Q6600 however, is essentially 2 E6600 dual cores, in one packaged CPU, is it not? I did see one E6600 OEM for $172, which is pretty still up there, which also means there is a limited supply, which keeps the cost up.

Edit:

E6600 - OEM - NewBiz.com

However, if its from Ebay... whelp, you take your chances on that. :lol: 

And besides, how is Intel going to get you or anybody to buy their new stuff (45nm) if they keep making the old (65nm) stuff?
October 2, 2008 10:31:01 AM

Grimmy said:
Well, the Q6600 is phased out now isn't it? So when the supply goes low, the prices will linger or perhaps go higher.


Isn't the Q6700 the one that is phased out now? I thought that the 6600 is going to stay for a while. Maybe both are going away then?
October 2, 2008 10:58:23 PM

spathotan said:
I know when the quad was released. My point and the fact is the chip has been one of the best selling procs in years, and one of the more popular. And the E6600 has not been phased out, its still on the market, although at a dumbfounding $230.

Really? man, I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Yeah, prolly because of stock and stuff.
Just because it can still be found doesn't mean that it's not phased out. Just a couple of months ago, I was able to find an Athlon XP 2200+. If I'm not mistaken, I believe those are also phased out.
October 2, 2008 11:00:55 PM

Yea....like Grimmy said they are still on Newegg, and I found it on ZipZoomFly also, but sold out on both sites. They probably just havnt "gotten a clue" yet.
October 2, 2008 11:11:07 PM

Intel updates desktop CPU details

That's basically what's happening. But even though the Q6600 is a great chip, I don't think Intel is going to keep making them when they want people on to buy 45nm, and the up coming i7.

Heh.. they got so much going on, I'm not even sure if anyone can keep track of what coming and going.

Supposedly, 6 dual cores will be discontinued in Nov:

Intel® Core™2 X6800 2.93 GHz, 4M HH80557PH0774M SL9S5 884350 B-2
Extreme Processor
X6800
Intel® Core ™ 2 Duo E6700 2.66 GHz, 4M HH80557PH0674M S L9ZF 887370 B-2

Processor
Intel® Core ™ 2 Duo E6600 2.40 GHz, 4M HH80557PH0564M S L9ZL 887379 B-2
Processor

Intel® Core ™ 2 Duo E6420 2.13 GHz, 4M HH80557PH0464M S LA4T 888505 B-2

Processor
Intel® Core ™ 2 Duo E6320 1.86 GHz, 4M HH80557PH0364M S LA4U 888502 B-2
Processor

Intel® Core ™ 2 Duo E6300 1.86 GHz, 2M HH80557PH0362M S L9TA 885033 L-2
Processor

As well as 4 quads, but the Q6600 or Q6700 wasn't in that list, it was mainly the Extreme Quads. But then 65nm cpus were to be replaced sooner or later.
October 2, 2008 11:19:28 PM

This is all planned out very well for Intel. Let's face it, with a q6600/q6700, you can just buy a $180 cpu and overclock it to outperform a $1500+ "extreme" quad. Q6600/6700 was a windfall for you, train wreck for Intel. Very bad planning on their part. It's a grave mistake they're correcting just now with this e8200. :D 
October 2, 2008 11:32:05 PM

Yea, which is why im extremely hesitant on replacing my Q6600. This is the longest ive ever had a proc, and I love it. My initial idea was to replace it with a Q9650 or whatever they have after i7 launches...if prices on the 9000's drop significantly that is.
January 5, 2010 8:11:08 AM

all u do is talk *** < on stock the q8200 will kick that q6600 ass 123
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January 5, 2010 9:36:58 AM

1) Why bother responding to a thread that's over a year old?
2) Stock vs stock, the 8200 is a bit faster than a 6600 (not much though) Overclocked, the 6600 usually wins, since it has significantly more headroom.
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