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Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why not
just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing something, or
else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
Roy
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Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why not
just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing something, or
else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
Roy
--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
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Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why not
> just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing something, or
> else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
>
> Roy
Ah, why back up computer files? Why not just make copies of the
important files on the hard disk? The answer is that there are failure
mechanisms that can cause loss of *all* the data on a hard drive, or in
a PDA's memory, all at once, in an instant. Doesn't matter how many
copies you have -- they can all be wiped out at once.
I personally had my Palm lose all its brains in the middle of a business
trip, where I was using the Palm to record business expenses. It was the
first and last time I ever used it for that or any other important
purpose, unless I had my laptop along in order to make frequent backups.
I recently got my second Palm, a Zire 31. The first software I got for
it was software to back up its contents to an SD card, which will retain
the data even if the machine loses it brains. But even the SD card can
fail, so critical files can be backed up to a second card, which can
then be removed and safely stored. And for the first time, I'll use the
Palm to store data that can't easily be replaced -- but it'll be well
backed up.
I hope you don't have to experience a hard drive or PDA crash to learn
the importance of backing up. It's a tough way to learn. But the lesson
*will* stay with you!
Roy Lewallen
Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why not
> just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing something, or
> else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
>
> Roy
Ah, why back up computer files? Why not just make copies of the
important files on the hard disk? The answer is that there are failure
mechanisms that can cause loss of *all* the data on a hard drive, or in
a PDA's memory, all at once, in an instant. Doesn't matter how many
copies you have -- they can all be wiped out at once.
I personally had my Palm lose all its brains in the middle of a business
trip, where I was using the Palm to record business expenses. It was the
first and last time I ever used it for that or any other important
purpose, unless I had my laptop along in order to make frequent backups.
I recently got my second Palm, a Zire 31. The first software I got for
it was software to back up its contents to an SD card, which will retain
the data even if the machine loses it brains. But even the SD card can
fail, so critical files can be backed up to a second card, which can
then be removed and safely stored. And for the first time, I'll use the
Palm to store data that can't easily be replaced -- but it'll be well
backed up.
I hope you don't have to experience a hard drive or PDA crash to learn
the importance of backing up. It's a tough way to learn. But the lesson
*will* stay with you!
Roy Lewallen
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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn48e4$2erl$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why
> not just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing
> something, or else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
There are many benefits. A good backup program does the backup
automatically, on a schedule, so you don't have to remember to make a
copy. It backs up everything, not just data files, including unsaved
preferences, etc. It does a restore quickly and automatically without
needing anything in RAM. I use BackupMan, and it does a backup every
morning before I wake up, keeps 2 previous backups, and deletes the
older ones without any intervention, and then turns the Palm back off.
When I am faced with a hard reset, I just do it, and then restore my
latest backup, and the whole thing takes perhaps a minute. There is no
way I would do all this manually every morning, and thus would be
eventually faced with a reset with no hope of a complete restore. Data
loss would be inevitable. I can't afford to lose data, so I spent a
huge $10 for something that prevents disaster.
--
Regards,
Stan
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn48e4$2erl$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why
> not just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing
> something, or else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
There are many benefits. A good backup program does the backup
automatically, on a schedule, so you don't have to remember to make a
copy. It backs up everything, not just data files, including unsaved
preferences, etc. It does a restore quickly and automatically without
needing anything in RAM. I use BackupMan, and it does a backup every
morning before I wake up, keeps 2 previous backups, and deletes the
older ones without any intervention, and then turns the Palm back off.
When I am faced with a hard reset, I just do it, and then restore my
latest backup, and the whole thing takes perhaps a minute. There is no
way I would do all this manually every morning, and thus would be
eventually faced with a reset with no hope of a complete restore. Data
loss would be inevitable. I can't afford to lose data, so I spent a
huge $10 for something that prevents disaster.
--
Regards,
Stan
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Roy Lewallen wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why not
>> just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing something,
>> or else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
>>
>> Roy
>
> Ah, why back up computer files? Why not just make copies of the
> important files on the hard disk? The answer is that there are failure
> mechanisms that can cause loss of *all* the data on a hard drive, or in
> a PDA's memory, all at once, in an instant. Doesn't matter how many
> copies you have -- they can all be wiped out at once.
I don't put the copy on the same hard drive, of course. I store it on a
secure FTP and on a second computer.
> I personally had my Palm lose all its brains in the middle of a business
> trip, where I was using the Palm to record business expenses. It was the
> first and last time I ever used it for that or any other important
> purpose, unless I had my laptop along in order to make frequent backups.
This I understand.
> I recently got my second Palm, a Zire 31. The first software I got for
> it was software to back up its contents to an SD card, which will retain
> the data even if the machine loses it brains. But even the SD card can
> fail, so critical files can be backed up to a second card
Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my SD
card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
> which can
> then be removed and safely stored. And for the first time, I'll use the
> Palm to store data that can't easily be replaced -- but it'll be well
> backed up.
>
> I hope you don't have to experience a hard drive or PDA crash to learn
> the importance of backing up. It's a tough way to learn. But the lesson
> *will* stay with you!
I have an almost unblemished record of enduring failures and restoring data.
I am worried, however, about these between-HotSyncs moments of anxiety.
--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
Roy Lewallen wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why not
>> just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing something,
>> or else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
>>
>> Roy
>
> Ah, why back up computer files? Why not just make copies of the
> important files on the hard disk? The answer is that there are failure
> mechanisms that can cause loss of *all* the data on a hard drive, or in
> a PDA's memory, all at once, in an instant. Doesn't matter how many
> copies you have -- they can all be wiped out at once.
I don't put the copy on the same hard drive, of course. I store it on a
secure FTP and on a second computer.
> I personally had my Palm lose all its brains in the middle of a business
> trip, where I was using the Palm to record business expenses. It was the
> first and last time I ever used it for that or any other important
> purpose, unless I had my laptop along in order to make frequent backups.
This I understand.
> I recently got my second Palm, a Zire 31. The first software I got for
> it was software to back up its contents to an SD card, which will retain
> the data even if the machine loses it brains. But even the SD card can
> fail, so critical files can be backed up to a second card
Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my SD
card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
> which can
> then be removed and safely stored. And for the first time, I'll use the
> Palm to store data that can't easily be replaced -- but it'll be well
> backed up.
>
> I hope you don't have to experience a hard drive or PDA crash to learn
> the importance of backing up. It's a tough way to learn. But the lesson
> *will* stay with you!
I have an almost unblemished record of enduring failures and restoring data.
I am worried, however, about these between-HotSyncs moments of anxiety.
--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
news:cn4h9r$2hi6$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...
> Roy Lewallen wrote:
>
> > Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> >> Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why
not
> >> just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing
something,
> >> or else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
> >>
> >> Roy
> >
> > Ah, why back up computer files? Why not just make copies of the
> > important files on the hard disk? The answer is that there are failure
> > mechanisms that can cause loss of *all* the data on a hard drive, or in
> > a PDA's memory, all at once, in an instant. Doesn't matter how many
> > copies you have -- they can all be wiped out at once.
>
> I don't put the copy on the same hard drive, of course. I store it on a
> secure FTP and on a second computer.
>
> > I personally had my Palm lose all its brains in the middle of a business
> > trip, where I was using the Palm to record business expenses. It was the
> > first and last time I ever used it for that or any other important
> > purpose, unless I had my laptop along in order to make frequent backups.
>
> This I understand.
>
> > I recently got my second Palm, a Zire 31. The first software I got for
> > it was software to back up its contents to an SD card, which will retain
> > the data even if the machine loses it brains. But even the SD card can
> > fail, so critical files can be backed up to a second card
>
> Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my SD
> card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
> duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
>
> > which can
> > then be removed and safely stored. And for the first time, I'll use the
> > Palm to store data that can't easily be replaced -- but it'll be well
> > backed up.
> >
> > I hope you don't have to experience a hard drive or PDA crash to learn
> > the importance of backing up. It's a tough way to learn. But the lesson
> > *will* stay with you!
>
> I have an almost unblemished record of enduring failures and restoring
data.
> I am worried, however, about these between-HotSyncs moments of anxiety.
>
> --
> Roy Schestowitz
> http://schestowitz.com
Some backups are freeware, some are a stunning $10, as was mentioned. Either
way, I don't want the hassle; I'll back the whole thing up and be sure that
I didn't miss anything. In fact, I suspect the whole backup is faster and
more reliable than picking and choosing, then navigating and performing
specific file backups.
"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
news:cn4h9r$2hi6$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...
> Roy Lewallen wrote:
>
> > Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> >> Can someone please tell me the benefits of Palm backup programs? Why
not
> >> just make copies of the relevant data file? I must be missing
something,
> >> or else people would not be _paying_ to have a failsafe.
> >>
> >> Roy
> >
> > Ah, why back up computer files? Why not just make copies of the
> > important files on the hard disk? The answer is that there are failure
> > mechanisms that can cause loss of *all* the data on a hard drive, or in
> > a PDA's memory, all at once, in an instant. Doesn't matter how many
> > copies you have -- they can all be wiped out at once.
>
> I don't put the copy on the same hard drive, of course. I store it on a
> secure FTP and on a second computer.
>
> > I personally had my Palm lose all its brains in the middle of a business
> > trip, where I was using the Palm to record business expenses. It was the
> > first and last time I ever used it for that or any other important
> > purpose, unless I had my laptop along in order to make frequent backups.
>
> This I understand.
>
> > I recently got my second Palm, a Zire 31. The first software I got for
> > it was software to back up its contents to an SD card, which will retain
> > the data even if the machine loses it brains. But even the SD card can
> > fail, so critical files can be backed up to a second card
>
> Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my SD
> card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
> duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
>
> > which can
> > then be removed and safely stored. And for the first time, I'll use the
> > Palm to store data that can't easily be replaced -- but it'll be well
> > backed up.
> >
> > I hope you don't have to experience a hard drive or PDA crash to learn
> > the importance of backing up. It's a tough way to learn. But the lesson
> > *will* stay with you!
>
> I have an almost unblemished record of enduring failures and restoring
data.
> I am worried, however, about these between-HotSyncs moments of anxiety.
>
> --
> Roy Schestowitz
> http://schestowitz.com
Some backups are freeware, some are a stunning $10, as was mentioned. Either
way, I don't want the hassle; I'll back the whole thing up and be sure that
I didn't miss anything. In fact, I suspect the whole backup is faster and
more reliable than picking and choosing, then navigating and performing
specific file backups.
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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn4h9r$2hi6$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my
> SD card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
> duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
Nope. There are a number of third-party apps, and PalmOne sells a
backup card containing a backup program (highly over-priced, IMO). Why
not just back up everything? It only takes a few seconds more, and it
will save you lots of time when (not if) you have a hard reset. Picking
files to back up, and doing a manual backup, is lots harder than just
letting the backup program do it automatically while you sleep, as well
as less reliable.
--
Regards,
Stan
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn4h9r$2hi6$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my
> SD card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
> duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
Nope. There are a number of third-party apps, and PalmOne sells a
backup card containing a backup program (highly over-priced, IMO). Why
not just back up everything? It only takes a few seconds more, and it
will save you lots of time when (not if) you have a hard reset. Picking
files to back up, and doing a manual backup, is lots harder than just
letting the backup program do it automatically while you sleep, as well
as less reliable.
--
Regards,
Stan
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Stan Gosnell wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
> news:cn4h9r$2hi6$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
>
>> Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my
>> SD card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
>> duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
>
> Nope. There are a number of third-party apps, and PalmOne sells a
> backup card containing a backup program (highly over-priced, IMO).
I agree. I got my 32MB SD card for only GBP 12 on eBay. An original Palm
card would have cost about 4 times as much.
> Why not just back up everything?
Okay, so here is my point again: I don't need a back-up of my HDD files so
badly. If I have the data saved in two separate places, then I'm fairly
safe. I want to copy data from the build-in Palm memory to the SD card.
Is there a hack maybe? Can I use Filez, for example, to copy some specific
data files to the SD card? If so, which ones?
> It only takes a few seconds more, and it
> will save you lots of time when (not if) you have a hard reset. Picking
> files to back up, and doing a manual backup, is lots harder than just
> letting the backup program do it automatically while you sleep, as well
> as less reliable.
I don't back these files up specifically. Twice a week I get a listing of
all recently modified files on the hard drive. I then zip them all up and
send the archive to an FTP server.
--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
Stan Gosnell wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
> news:cn4h9r$2hi6$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
>
>> Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my
>> SD card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
>> duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
>
> Nope. There are a number of third-party apps, and PalmOne sells a
> backup card containing a backup program (highly over-priced, IMO).
I agree. I got my 32MB SD card for only GBP 12 on eBay. An original Palm
card would have cost about 4 times as much.
> Why not just back up everything?
Okay, so here is my point again: I don't need a back-up of my HDD files so
badly. If I have the data saved in two separate places, then I'm fairly
safe. I want to copy data from the build-in Palm memory to the SD card.
Is there a hack maybe? Can I use Filez, for example, to copy some specific
data files to the SD card? If so, which ones?
> It only takes a few seconds more, and it
> will save you lots of time when (not if) you have a hard reset. Picking
> files to back up, and doing a manual backup, is lots harder than just
> letting the backup program do it automatically while you sleep, as well
> as less reliable.
I don't back these files up specifically. Twice a week I get a listing of
all recently modified files on the hard drive. I then zip them all up and
send the archive to an FTP server.
--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
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Bill Marcum wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 05:19:12 GMT, Stan Gosnell
> <me@work.com> wrote:
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
>> news:cn4h9r$2hi6$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
>>
>>> Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my
>>> SD card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
>>> duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
>>
>> Nope. There are a number of third-party apps, and PalmOne sells a
>> backup card containing a backup program (highly over-priced, IMO). Why
>> not just back up everything? It only takes a few seconds more, and it
>> will save you lots of time when (not if) you have a hard reset. Picking
>> files to back up, and doing a manual backup, is lots harder than just
>> letting the backup program do it automatically while you sleep, as well
>> as less reliable.
>>
> There is a freeware backup app called Red Feline. I forget whether I
> found it on freshmeat or freewarepalm.
That's _exactly_ what I was looking for. Thanks.
http://freshmeat.net/projects/rfbackup/
--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
Bill Marcum wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 05:19:12 GMT, Stan Gosnell
> <me@work.com> wrote:
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
>> news:cn4h9r$2hi6$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
>>
>>> Is there a built-in Palm functionality which transfers all data to my
>>> SD card? I know commercial products exist, but all I really want is to
>>> duplicate the100 KB or so of data from the 4 'main' applications.
>>
>> Nope. There are a number of third-party apps, and PalmOne sells a
>> backup card containing a backup program (highly over-priced, IMO). Why
>> not just back up everything? It only takes a few seconds more, and it
>> will save you lots of time when (not if) you have a hard reset. Picking
>> files to back up, and doing a manual backup, is lots harder than just
>> letting the backup program do it automatically while you sleep, as well
>> as less reliable.
>>
> There is a freeware backup app called Red Feline. I forget whether I
> found it on freshmeat or freewarepalm.
That's _exactly_ what I was looking for. Thanks.
http://freshmeat.net/projects/rfbackup/
--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn70fk$skh$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Okay, so here is my point again: I don't need a back-up of my HDD
> files so badly. If I have the data saved in two separate places, then
> I'm fairly safe. I want to copy data from the build-in Palm memory to
> the SD card.
That's exactly what I've been talking about. Backing up your Palm RAM to
the SD card. BackupMan does this, and nothing else. It doesn't do
anything at all with your PC. If you want the SD card backed up, you can
do it with a card reader.
--
Regards,
Stan
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn70fk$skh$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Okay, so here is my point again: I don't need a back-up of my HDD
> files so badly. If I have the data saved in two separate places, then
> I'm fairly safe. I want to copy data from the build-in Palm memory to
> the SD card.
That's exactly what I've been talking about. Backing up your Palm RAM to
the SD card. BackupMan does this, and nothing else. It doesn't do
anything at all with your PC. If you want the SD card backed up, you can
do it with a card reader.
--
Regards,
Stan
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"Stan Gosnell" <me@work.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95A1CF3887B1Amework@204.52.135.40...
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
> news:cn70fk$skh$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
>
>> Okay, so here is my point again: I don't need a back-up of my HDD
>> files so badly. If I have the data saved in two separate places, then
>> I'm fairly safe. I want to copy data from the build-in Palm memory to
>> the SD card.
>
> That's exactly what I've been talking about. Backing up your Palm RAM to
> the SD card. BackupMan does this, and nothing else. It doesn't do
> anything at all with your PC. If you want the SD card backed up, you can
> do it with a card reader.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Stan
And anything on the card should be backed up on the PC or something before
it became indispensable. Backing up the Plam on a card is great when you're
on the road.
"Stan Gosnell" <me@work.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95A1CF3887B1Amework@204.52.135.40...
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
> news:cn70fk$skh$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
>
>> Okay, so here is my point again: I don't need a back-up of my HDD
>> files so badly. If I have the data saved in two separate places, then
>> I'm fairly safe. I want to copy data from the build-in Palm memory to
>> the SD card.
>
> That's exactly what I've been talking about. Backing up your Palm RAM to
> the SD card. BackupMan does this, and nothing else. It doesn't do
> anything at all with your PC. If you want the SD card backed up, you can
> do it with a card reader.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Stan
And anything on the card should be backed up on the PC or something before
it became indispensable. Backing up the Plam on a card is great when you're
on the road.
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Stan Gosnell wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
> news:cn70fk$skh$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
>
>> Okay, so here is my point again: I don't need a back-up of my HDD
>> files so badly. If I have the data saved in two separate places, then
>> I'm fairly safe. I want to copy data from the build-in Palm memory to
>> the SD card.
>
> That's exactly what I've been talking about. Backing up your Palm RAM to
> the SD card. BackupMan does this, and nothing else. It doesn't do
> anything at all with your PC. If you want the SD card backed up, you can
> do it with a card reader.
Red Feline Backup does that too and it's free. I found out about it
yesterday (see the rest of this thread).
It seems like a very recent project and I tested it with success before
making a mentioning of it in my blog (http://www.schestowitz.com/Weblog/)
Stan Gosnell wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
> news:cn70fk$skh$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
>
>> Okay, so here is my point again: I don't need a back-up of my HDD
>> files so badly. If I have the data saved in two separate places, then
>> I'm fairly safe. I want to copy data from the build-in Palm memory to
>> the SD card.
>
> That's exactly what I've been talking about. Backing up your Palm RAM to
> the SD card. BackupMan does this, and nothing else. It doesn't do
> anything at all with your PC. If you want the SD card backed up, you can
> do it with a card reader.
Red Feline Backup does that too and it's free. I found out about it
yesterday (see the rest of this thread).
It seems like a very recent project and I tested it with success before
making a mentioning of it in my blog (http://www.schestowitz.com/Weblog/)
Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops (More info?)
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn9d0f$2903$3@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Red Feline Backup does that too and it's free. I found out about it
> yesterday (see the rest of this thread).
>
> It seems like a very recent project and I tested it with success
> before making a mentioning of it in my blog
> (http://www.schestowitz.com/Weblog/)
I took a look at both Red Feline and VfsBackup, which is another free
backup program that does a little more, by deleting or archiving files
that have been removed from RAM since the last backup. Neither of these
has what I consider an essential feature - automatic scheduled backups.
I don't want to have to do a backup manually, because I don't always
remember, and it takes time to backup a T3 with many megs of files. I
prefer to have it done while I'm sleeping, and BackupMan never forgets,
unless I do something silly like change the settings. Whatever get it
done for you, though. Another option, although not free, is HandZipper.
It's only about $4, IIRC. It takes .zip files on your card and unzips
and installs them, allowing you to download files directly to your card
in a card reader, then doing the install from the SD card, which is much
faster than hotsyncing. It will also read any text files in the
archive, such as readme and doc files. It will zip your entire RAM, or
selected files, to your SD card, using much less space than a standard
backup program. You can copy the zip files to your PC and open them
with any zip program if you like. I've tried all these, and I keep
Handzipper around for installs, but I want my backups done automatically
at night. YMMV.
--
Regards,
Stan
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn9d0f$2903$3@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Red Feline Backup does that too and it's free. I found out about it
> yesterday (see the rest of this thread).
>
> It seems like a very recent project and I tested it with success
> before making a mentioning of it in my blog
> (http://www.schestowitz.com/Weblog/)
I took a look at both Red Feline and VfsBackup, which is another free
backup program that does a little more, by deleting or archiving files
that have been removed from RAM since the last backup. Neither of these
has what I consider an essential feature - automatic scheduled backups.
I don't want to have to do a backup manually, because I don't always
remember, and it takes time to backup a T3 with many megs of files. I
prefer to have it done while I'm sleeping, and BackupMan never forgets,
unless I do something silly like change the settings. Whatever get it
done for you, though. Another option, although not free, is HandZipper.
It's only about $4, IIRC. It takes .zip files on your card and unzips
and installs them, allowing you to download files directly to your card
in a card reader, then doing the install from the SD card, which is much
faster than hotsyncing. It will also read any text files in the
archive, such as readme and doc files. It will zip your entire RAM, or
selected files, to your SD card, using much less space than a standard
backup program. You can copy the zip files to your PC and open them
with any zip program if you like. I've tried all these, and I keep
Handzipper around for installs, but I want my backups done automatically
at night. YMMV.
--
Regards,
Stan
Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops (More info?)
Regarding Red Feline Backup:
Stan Gosnell wrote:
> I took a look at both Red Feline and VfsBackup, which is another free
> backup program that does a little more, by deleting or archiving files
> that have been removed from RAM since the last backup. Neither of these
> has what I consider an essential feature - automatic scheduled backups.
It takes 5 seconds to run it and press <Backup>.
> I don't want to have to do a backup manually, because I don't always
> remember
You only need to do this once you have made many important changes. You have
the gut feeling when you have.
> , and it takes time to backup a T3 with many megs of files.
It only backs up recently modified files. It takes me about 30 seconds to do
a backup of 16 MB. Only the first time took a couple of minutes.
> I prefer to have it done while I'm sleeping
Makes me even more worried... you can't view the logs... only when you wake
up... if you remember.
> and BackupMan never forgets,
Sometimes he's unconscious though, e.g. when Window$ crashes.
--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
Regarding Red Feline Backup:
Stan Gosnell wrote:
> I took a look at both Red Feline and VfsBackup, which is another free
> backup program that does a little more, by deleting or archiving files
> that have been removed from RAM since the last backup. Neither of these
> has what I consider an essential feature - automatic scheduled backups.
It takes 5 seconds to run it and press <Backup>.
> I don't want to have to do a backup manually, because I don't always
> remember
You only need to do this once you have made many important changes. You have
the gut feeling when you have.
> , and it takes time to backup a T3 with many megs of files.
It only backs up recently modified files. It takes me about 30 seconds to do
a backup of 16 MB. Only the first time took a couple of minutes.
> I prefer to have it done while I'm sleeping
Makes me even more worried... you can't view the logs... only when you wake
up... if you remember.
> and BackupMan never forgets,
Sometimes he's unconscious though, e.g. when Window$ crashes.
--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com
Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops (More info?)
"Necron 99" <fake@fakeryet.org> wrote in
news:2vqm0bF2oaedfU1@uni-berlin.de:
> And anything on the card should be backed up on the PC or something
> before it became indispensable. Backing up the Plam on a card is great
> when you're on the road.
True. I copy the SD to my PC, and the backup to a CD every now and then.
A card reader makes it quick and easy. I also back up to another card that
I keep in a separate place, just in case. I cannot afford to lose the data
I have on either my Palm or my SD card.
--
Regards,
Stan
"Necron 99" <fake@fakeryet.org> wrote in
news:2vqm0bF2oaedfU1@uni-berlin.de:
> And anything on the card should be backed up on the PC or something
> before it became indispensable. Backing up the Plam on a card is great
> when you're on the road.
True. I copy the SD to my PC, and the backup to a CD every now and then.
A card reader makes it quick and easy. I also back up to another card that
I keep in a separate place, just in case. I cannot afford to lose the data
I have on either my Palm or my SD card.
--
Regards,
Stan
Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops (More info?)
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn9n76$2c0k$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Makes me even more worried... you can't view the logs... only when you
> wake up... if you remember.
>
>> and BackupMan never forgets,
>
> Sometimes he's unconscious though, e.g. when Window$ crashes.
?????
BackupMan has nothing at all to do with Windows. It runs on the *Palm*.
Windows does not run on a Palm.
You're certainly free to use whatever you like, as am I.
--
Regards,
Stan
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in
news:cn9n76$2c0k$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk:
> Makes me even more worried... you can't view the logs... only when you
> wake up... if you remember.
>
>> and BackupMan never forgets,
>
> Sometimes he's unconscious though, e.g. when Window$ crashes.
?????
BackupMan has nothing at all to do with Windows. It runs on the *Palm*.
Windows does not run on a Palm.
You're certainly free to use whatever you like, as am I.
--
Regards,
Stan
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