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July 16, 2008 5:48:48 AM

So to make a long story short, my laptop broke and I've decided to go ahead and order a gaming PC. I'm going to try and order one this weekend. The reason is has to be this weekend is my parents are helping me out with it for my birthday, an they want to order the parts this weekend, so my friend can come over and help me put it together.

My price range is $1000-$1100. This is just for the parts, I've already gotten a monitor, speakers, and keyboard/mouse. So if you guys could help that would be great. I honestly have now idea which parts are best.

Also what is better AMD or Intel? Just need help, thanks guys.

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July 16, 2008 5:57:55 AM

I honestly don't have any idea about the parts, so basically if anybody could make a build for me that would be great. Thanks guys. I'm just looking for the most power for my money.

I know a lot of you may be thinking that I'm not giving myself enough time, but thats what I am realying on you guys for. I've been browsing the forums, and all I can say is I am completely overwhelmed. All I know is I want to squeeze as much power as I can. Also can a $1000 computer run Crysis fairly well?
July 16, 2008 6:07:56 AM

ha well you could look at tom's pc builder marathon articles for your price range that would be a great place to start.
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July 16, 2008 6:12:28 AM

shoota said:
ha well you could look at tom's pc builder marathon articles for your price range that would be a great place to start.


I'll look into that. But from my limited experience with computers, it always seems that the forum users themselves are the best at finding the good deals for gaming PC's.
July 16, 2008 6:22:26 AM

Motherboard a X48 so you can crossfire sometime in the future if you want
Gigabyte X48 DS4 $225
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU Intel E8400 $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU HD4870 $295
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM Mushkin DDR2 800 $65 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Coolermaster 690 $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU Corsair 650w $90 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD WD cav 640 GB $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Burner Samsung $27
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total about $1,100 before rebates and shipping and OS
Vista home premium 64 bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
sorry i forgot the OS in the draw up

July 16, 2008 6:28:45 AM

dirtmountain said:
Motherboard a X48 so you can crossfire sometime in the future if you want
Gigabyte X48 DS4 $225
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU Intel E8400 $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU HD4870 $295
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM Mushkin DDR2 800 $65 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Coolermaster 690 $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU Corsair 650w $90 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD WD cav 640 GB $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Burner Samsung $27
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total about $1,100 before rebates and shipping and OS
Vista home premium 64 bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
sorry i forgot the OS in the draw up


Thank you so much for the build. My friend who knows a lot about computers is here with me, and he said that is a good build. I was actually hoping to get a build with the 4780, and I was hoping to get 4 gigs of memory. So could this run games like Crysis and Far Cry 2 when it comes out on pretty good settings? Thanks so much again/
July 16, 2008 6:30:12 AM

Also is that a pretty good, roomy case?
July 16, 2008 6:30:35 AM
July 16, 2008 6:32:25 AM

wow me and dirt mountain have very similar builds. you get the right mixture of what you want from our two builds and you can't go wrong.
July 16, 2008 6:33:29 AM

Okay what is better two 4850? Or one 4870?
July 16, 2008 6:34:50 AM

Yep, both are nice, good $ savings with Shootas.
July 16, 2008 6:35:12 AM

*edit* wrong thread

but anyway if you want something to last a long time get the 4870 so you can add a second 4870 in couple of months when they drop in price
July 16, 2008 6:36:20 AM

"better" is a relative word. the 4850's are gonna do better at some games. what resolution is your monitor?
July 16, 2008 6:37:06 AM

dirtmountain said:
Yep, both are nice, good $ savings with Shootas.

Which one would you suggest? Your build seems to be more powerful...
July 16, 2008 6:38:49 AM

shoota said:
"better" is a relative word. the 4850's are gonna do better at some games. what resolution is your monitor?

1680 x 1050 I think.
July 16, 2008 6:39:25 AM

Well his is a better gaming system right now, mine can be expanded in time to crossfire the 4870. So dunno.
July 16, 2008 6:41:30 AM

dirtmountain said:
Well his is a better gaming system right now, mine can be expanded in time to crossfire the 4870. So dunno.

Aw man, I so confused. LOL I feel so stupid.
July 16, 2008 6:43:57 AM

So I guess would it be better to go ahead and get a 4870? Or should I get the two 4850's and then uprade later?
July 16, 2008 6:44:32 AM

you can't go wrong with either the 2x 4850's or a single 4870. about the same price, single card is obviously easier to setup, CF is cooler... haha it won't matter a whole lot. just remember in the video card world the next best thing is always around the corner. so buying one card now to add another later will often get beat by a new card that just came out...
July 16, 2008 6:45:12 AM

you're not stupid. don't worry
July 16, 2008 6:46:17 AM

shoota said:
you can't go wrong with either the 2x 4850's or a single 4870. about the same price, single card is obviously easier to setup, CF is cooler... haha it won't matter a whole lot. just remember in the video card world the next best thing is always around the corner. so buying one card now to add another later will often get beat by a new card that just came out...

Alright thanks for the advice guys. I think I'll stick with dirtmountains build for now. Any tweaks or anything to get maximum power for my money?
July 16, 2008 6:48:14 AM

shoota said:
you're not stupid. don't worry

Thank you. I've been so frustrated with console gaming lately so I decided to switch to PC gaming. I've always wanted one, because I've always be more interested in PC games. So far all I've had are laptops so I really have no idea what I needed hardware wise. I wish I had a bit more time to get the perfect build but you guys have been a great help for real.
July 16, 2008 6:52:38 AM

there you go, you have a great list within your budget. let us know how it turns out and welcome to real PC gaming, it's much more fun over here :)  good night
July 16, 2008 11:22:11 AM

I like both builds but the P45 doesn't have full 16x when both PCIE slots are used but I don't know if that is worth paying $75 more to avoid. So I would look at both mb's and see which one has the features you want the most and weigh the cost difference and decide that way.

With your monitor size I would think the best single card solution would be better.
So I would go for the single 4870, then for christmas, ask for a second one :) 

I like the last memory shoota suggested.

I was at Fyes last week and they had Antec 900 cases on sale for $79 I think. Not sure if you have one in your area but that would be a really nice case to get too.

So really. I like Shoota's build with 4G OCZ mem and 1 4870 and a 900 case if you can get it.
July 16, 2008 3:16:18 PM

So this may be a silly question... but do I need a sound card or something? Or does that come built into the motherboard?
July 16, 2008 4:05:56 PM

Most retail motherboards have onboard sound. It is not as good as a sound card, but it is acceptable.
I recommend Asus Xonar if you decide on a sound card.
July 16, 2008 5:10:43 PM

the asus P5E is a good x38 board and this http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N... is a good x48 board if you're considering CF down the road. the asus Xonar i would recommend as well if you want. don't forget a good CPU cooler and AS5 or similar thermal paste.

just remember some x48 boards accept DDR3 while others take DDR2, make sure you know which one ur getting.
July 16, 2008 7:26:29 PM

Whoa, whoa, whoa... Ok wait.

So obviously there are several types of motherboards available. And I'm guessing that the x48 board is better than the x38 board. But what is all the P45 stuff about? Is that different from the x38/x48, or is that just the name of the board?
July 16, 2008 7:34:28 PM

1831154,32,142836 said:
. don't forget a good CPU cooler and AS5 or similar thermal paste.

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July 16, 2008 8:29:08 PM

lol, The P45 is a new motherboard that just came out a month or so back. Since it's so new there's not a lot of information/reviews etc. about it yet. One of the options it has is to crossfire at 8X-8X speed with the PCIE16x 2.0 socket. One review from tweaktown said that it was a pretty poor performer with crossfire, this new review says it performs pretty well, but not as good as the X38/X48 motherboards.
If you decide to overclock the stock cooler will allow you some minimal overclocking, for more intensive overclocking you need to go to a aftermarket cooler. It's something that you can do or add at a later time.
July 16, 2008 8:40:40 PM

One thing to remember about computers is that as soon as you drive it off the lot, it's obsolete. Within days or weeks something new/better/hyped/PR/fad whatever is going to be out. Examples would be the HD4870x2, a X58 motherboard, Nehalem cpu, the list goes on and it never ends. Of course the HD4870x2 is going to cost $500-$600 or about 1/2 your budget. No one knows how much the other stuff will cost. The system that i suggested or shootas system is all recent items, with room to upgrade at reasonable costs.
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