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What happens if you mix Arctic silver 5 with Zalman stg1?

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johnnycox   08-04-2009 at 06:43:21 PM

If they are mixed and then applied to a cpu would it be harmful? or would it not work as well as if one was applied by itself?

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OvrClkr   08-04-2009 at 06:59:07 PM
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You will not achieve anything by mixing both together... Just use AS-5 and you will be fine....

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jsc   08-04-2009 at 07:11:58 PM
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johnnycox wrote :

If they are mixed and then applied to a cpu would it be harmful?


The solvents will interact and create an acidic solution that will eat through the IHS. :o


:lol:


You will not gain anything by mixing them. Like OvrClkr said, just use the AS-5.


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chunkymonster   08-04-2009 at 07:42:39 PM
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All the reviews show that the Zalman STG1 is a better performer than AS5, I recommend using just the STG1.

While AS5 is a good thermal grease, the fact is there are newer and better products on the market than AS5. Products like Tuniq TX-2, Zalman STG1, and my newest favorite thermal compound Noctua NT-H1.

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OvrClkr   08-04-2009 at 07:56:07 PM
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I would not call them better than the other....

I have used 5 different compounds that include the Tuniq TX-2, Zalman STG1, Noctua, OCZ and AS-5... All 5 run @ the same temps under idle or load (some differ from other's by -1 or -2c at the most)..... So in all its a matter of taste... Don't think that you will drastically lower your temps just cause you went from AS-5 to the Tuniq paste....It does not work that way... The cooler is a major factor when comparing different compounds...

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neon neophyte   08-04-2009 at 08:29:54 PM
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the biggest jump in temp was from that shitty white thermal compound that was used on everything way back when to the first arctic silver, then granted, slow progression, it slowly got better.

its not gonna get much better anymore.

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overshocked   08-04-2009 at 08:56:03 PM
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johnnycox wrote :

If they are mixed and then applied to a cpu would it be harmful? or would it not work as well as if one was applied by itself?




BOOOOOOMMMM!!!!!

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OvrClkr   08-04-2009 at 08:57:23 PM
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neon neophyte wrote :

the biggest jump in temp was from that shitty white thermal compound that was used on everything way back when to the first arctic silver, then granted, slow progression, it slowly got better.

its not gonna get much better anymore.



True that!! that stuff was horrible...... :pfff:

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Shadow703793   08-04-2009 at 10:36:15 PM
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OvrClkr wrote :

I would not call them better than the other....

I have used 5 different compounds that include the Tuniq TX-2, Zalman STG1, Noctua, OCZ and AS-5... All 5 run @ the same temps under idle or load (some differ from other's by -1 or -2c at the most)..... So in all its a matter of taste... Don't think that you will drastically lower your temps just cause you went from AS-5 to the Tuniq paste....It does not work that way... The cooler is a major factor when comparing different compounds...


Agreed. Also, it matters how "flat" your CPU and heatsink bases are.

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johnnycox   08-04-2009 at 10:37:40 PM
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Thanks for replying, but i wasn't asking which was better.

I was just curious to know what would actually happen if you were to mix the two.

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Shadow703793   08-04-2009 at 10:54:30 PM
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jsc wrote :

The solvents will interact and create an acidic solution that will eat through the IHS. :o


:lol:


You will not gain anything by mixing them. Like OvrClkr said, just use the AS-5.


No,no,no,no... it will create a black hole :lol: (LHC any one?)

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Shadow703793   08-04-2009 at 10:54:54 PM
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johnnycox wrote :

Thanks for replying, but i wasn't asking which was better.

I was just curious to know what would actually happen if you were to mix the two.


Try and let us know?

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Conumdrum   08-05-2009 at 05:44:56 AM
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You might unbalance your neighborhood temporal field. Don't.

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englandr753   08-05-2009 at 06:59:13 AM
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Mix a little bird sh** in there so you can become a gazillionaire with your new cpu compound. I'd buy it...

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OvrClkr   08-05-2009 at 07:05:58 AM
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""LoL""

You never know....it might be the next big "thing".... You can call it BS-1 ....LoL.....

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englandr753   08-05-2009 at 07:23:28 AM
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Lol. Rush for the patent on the product and the name b4 someone reads this...

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xtc28   08-05-2009 at 08:07:22 AM
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OvrClkr wrote :

""LoL""

You never know....it might be the next big "thing".... You can call it BS-1 ....LoL.....


ROFL lol lol hahahaha

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OvrClkr   08-05-2009 at 08:43:44 AM
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Message edited.....

Kinda felt bad for him..... he was upset so I decided to erase the post.....


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englandr753   08-05-2009 at 11:53:52 AM
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I have to give him the benefit of the doubt his head was banging on the keyboard from exhaustion when he typed that...


Message edited by englandr753 on 08-05-2009 at 04:35:34 PM
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megamanx00   08-05-2009 at 05:20:04 PM
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Well since they are different solutions it will be pretty hard to properly mix them so that you get a good consistency. Rather you will end up with an inconsistent paste that would have some areas hotter than others. Also if you got some air bubbles in there then that would really lower it's effectiveness. There is also no telling if some of the elements in each solution may react with the other causing it to solidify into a cakey, ineffective mess. Well, at least till that mess no longer cools your CPU and the darn thing just fries leaving you a toasted mess :D.

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xtc28   08-05-2009 at 05:28:04 PM
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^agreed

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amnotanoobie   08-05-2009 at 05:29:48 PM
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Even if you do mix the two properly and get a proper consistency, you gain nothing. Last reviews I read would rank the STG-1 and AS5 neck-and-neck, so you'd still get the same performance, if not worse. For these kinds of mixing, it's not a case of i.e. 1 + 1 = better, it'd be a (1 + 1) / 2 = same result.

Or you could create a tear through the space-time continuum, but what would I know.

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