Hello all hope u are fine Today i was playing COD4 multiplayer and suddenly the screen went black and flashed many times and i had to use task manager to end COD4,at the bottom near the clock i got this message:
nvlddmkm driver has stopped working but has recovered successfully
Then i couldnt play it,so i had to restart, when the windows boot up again, i went and played Crysis but my FPS dropped alot,i dont know what do
I have DELL XPS M1730 with DUAL 8800MGTX and 4GB RAM with a T9300 CPU and i am using the latest nvidia drivers.
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Are you using Dell's display drivers, or the official NVIDIA ones? Try using the other one, and make sure to kill any remains of previous driver installations.
I am using nvidia drivers,and i am doing a clean install,i uninstalled the nvidia dirvers and used driver cleaner pro in safe mode and now i am installing the drivers again and i will tell u the results.
thanks for the help.
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar
Maziar, also please check your graphics cards and system memory.
This looks like there had been a hardware deadlock that watchdog timer forced that deadlock broke.
Well i did the things that i said and it seems to have been fixed,i get good FPS in Crysis again and COD4 is fine and i dont get that error again,but what if it happens again??
to DigitalMicron,no a laptop doesnt come Pre OC'd
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar
hmm. might just have got too hot and caused a slight instability in the GPU. Try to keep your laptop cold. (In fact, heat over 25 C kills your battery faster than anything.)
Bad news I was playing COD4 and it suddently the screen went black flashing and i got "DIRECT X has encountered a problem" error and it came to windows and again i got the Driver stopped responding and has recovered message
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar
Your GPU is overheating, i am almost 100% sure of it. I've dealt with this problem.. in a laptop and on a desktop. Both said the temperatures were inside their limits but it still was occuring. As soon as I either under clocked the gpu or got better cooling the problem went away.
P.S. This also occurs when i overclock my 8800GT to far in my current rig.
I cant downclock it,because i will lose peformance,also notebook coolers arent available in IRAN,also there are lots of other M1730 with my temps and they dont have this problem.
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar
Your GPU is overheating, i am almost 100% sure of it. I've dealt with this problem.. in a laptop and on a desktop. Both said the temperatures were inside their limits but it still was occuring. As soon as I either under clocked the gpu or got better cooling the problem went away.
P.S. This also occurs when i overclock my 8800GT to far in my current rig.
doubtful.
i had this problem with my 7900GTX in my desktop rig on Vista. Problem turned out the be NVIDIAs drivers for Vista. The card didn't get hotter than 46C under 100% load but the problem still happened. I went back to XP 32-bit and everything has been A-OK since.
EDIT: oh yeah. did i mention i RMAed the card 3 times before switching back to XP, same problem on all 3. even used a Zalman VF900 cooler and ramsinks (43C under full load with that) with the same effect on Vista. and i tried beta drivers as well as 6 driver versions previous to the ones i was trying.
Message edited by xxjudgmentxx on 08-05-2008 at 06:18:35 PM
I'd say you got one of Nvidias faulty/hot GPUS that is widely known infeting millions of notebooks currently. Theres a Bios fix that makes your fan run on ful 100% to fix it, however many customers are unhappy there shiny new laptop soundsl ike a airplane now.
Doubtful? are you kidding me? i can replicate this error over and over again if i want.. just set my gpu core slightly over the max and play CoD4 for about 10-15 minutes(my gpu will get up to about 65C which is fine).. will happen everytime. Im not saying this is the only reason why it could happen, so i guess i shouldn't have said 100% sure. I have a dual boot system and if i boot into XP it wont occur indeed, but this could be vista's way of protecting your hardware.. who knows.
Maziar, recommend you yo RMA your laptop. It looks like you've overheated your GPU and it's contact with the cooler's broken. (Can happen, due to asymmetrical expansion of heated material)
Why don't you look at your temps before we just assume the GPUs are overheating?
Have you reverted back to the stock drivers, or are you still on the nvidia ones?
Prop the bottom of the notebook up during gameplay, let the intakes get some more air.
If the GPUs had come loose from their heatsinks, they would likely no longer exist, I'm not ready to buy that one yet. Though the boards might have warped or something...
Check those temps!
This is sad to hear...that review was so good..
edit: I've also heard that the bad mobile GPU's are only the 8400 and 8600 series. If you think about it, most notebooks with these cards use crappier cooling systems, often sharing heatsinks between CPU and GPU; units with the 8800m series generally offer dedicated GPU cooling systems.
Message edited by frozenlead on 08-09-2008 at 09:55:37 PM
No one knows which gpus are overheating from nVidia for sure. But check those temps. Heres something that may not help, but may. Either way, its good to be up to date. Its a new DX update http://www.microsoft.com/downloads [...] layLang=en
------------------------------I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn
It doesn't need to be a bad GPU. Just the thermal paste between the GPU and heatsink might have been less or not proportionally distributed.
Those temp readings might be misleading, if some half of the chip is cooled but the other isn't cooled that well. Or whether the heat sensor isn't broken itself or not. Better RMA.
Either way, his notebook isn't going to blow up or something - why not check the temps anyway? (but some cool durons on youtube do explode! (even if they have explosives set inside the socket, it's still cool to watch))
I don't know how easy the XPS is to dismantle, if you wanted to inspect the heatsinks and boards themselves, but it is still under warranty. It'll just suck to send it away to dell. I think if I had just bought that thing and then had to box it back up...I just might cry.
Didn't mean any of that in a mean way, sorry if you took it that way! I was just trying to bring in a little fun to a not-so-fun situation. Makes things easier, eh?
The dismantle thing is a last resort, but yes, you're right, warranty comes first.
I don't remember treating Maziar like a child, but he wouldn't have posted if he didn't want help, so I'm just giving my two cents. He didn't run into trouble when he did the review, he's had the notebook for a little while now. He hasn't posted the temps yet..so I'm safe in assuming he hasn't looked at them.
Not trying to shoot anyone down, just offering what's asked.
I have talked about the DELL drivers in my review,with one of them Crysis has problems and with the other one COD4 has problems.
The normal idle temp for this laptop is 75c(for GPUs) and because the keyboard has an little screen i can see the temps,in COD4 they are 85c which is again normal.
Also i cant RMA this laptop,because i am in IRAN and my uncle brought it for me from UK.
I installed the 177.41(i had 177.79) and it didnt gave me an error for now but i really feel that i am not getting the performance that i need,FPS has dropped and the gameplay isnt smooth as it was before
to jaydee,ok i will install that and will tell u,thanks alot guys
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar
Well i figured that my laptop was on power saving mode,so it set it to high perofrmance and its fine now and Crysis FPS is good so i will check COD4 and if there was any errors i will tell y
thx again guys
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar
The link may be for US only. Try MS site, theyll have it. Is this a new bios ? I know nVidia has released newer bios to control heat in laptops, also could maybe effect performance. I hope not
------------------------------I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn
Should be on Dells site. From what Ive read, the new bios helps heat issues with the gpu. The fan speeds are upped
Message edited by jaydeejohn on 08-11-2008 at 03:01:26 PM
------------------------------I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn
It depends on the gpu actually. Its a HW problem, trying to be solved in SW, go figure? We dont disagree here, I said helps, but at the cost of battery life. But it may be the difference of being able to play games or not for Maziar
------------------------------I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn
Exactly, totally worth it, if the higher fan speeds allows better cooling. Thats why I said may, as if heat is the issue here, itll help
------------------------------I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn
Sadly, the best drivers for non problem issues has been the 169 drivers for me. I put up with occasional freezes with the newer drivers. Might try the old 169 drivers, if theyre available to you. They just seem more rock solid. Im hoping this helps you my friend, cause this stinks if it doesnt. I know youve given up alot going from your old rig. Good luck, and I hope this helps, or someone does, cause Im stumped, without a newer bios, it may still be a heat issue, tho Im hoping not, maybe just a driver issue
------------------------------I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn
Well i was looking @ Nividas site today and they finally added a driver for XPS M1730 with 2x8800MGTX (the old drivers were only for 8700MGT)so i will download it and see what will happen.
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar
------------------------------I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn
I downloaded it and i went to play COD4 MULTIPLAYER,well the game started and before i move the screen went blank but after few seconds it came back to the game,when i finished playing i came back to windows and i see the "Driver stopped...." message again,but before it didnt let me play when i got this error but this time it let me play.
Then i went to check Crysis SP and bad thing happened,i got FPS drop
I really dont know what to do,i payed alot for this(with the support of my family)and at the end i cant play with it smoothly
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar
Are your temps spiking at all? Reaching its hottest when it slows down? Also, check your cpu, it could be slowing down as well, could be a heat issue with it as well.
Message edited by jaydeejohn on 08-13-2008 at 01:12:59 PM
------------------------------I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn
------------------------------I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn
Today i wanted to test WIC,it didnt let me to change any GPU settings(resolutions,quality....)i was stuck with 1280x800 resolution and default settings and gameplay wasnt good
------------------------------Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar
You are about to answer a thread that has been inactive for more than 6 months. If you still wish to proceed, please ensure that your posting is original and does not duplicate or overlap any prior responses to this thread.