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July 16, 2008 5:27:27 PM

Hey...So I'm the one who has a computer sitting in Seattle that I can't really get over here without paying 400 dollars shipping so I'm going to build a new one here instead and deal with spending a little more money.

I'm buying these parts in Sweden

I'm looking to build a nice somewhat future proof gaming PC with an Ati motherboard which will have dual 4870's or one of those new 4870X2 when they come out =)

This is what I've built up...Make any changes please

Case..I think i want an antec..I had an antec 900 and I thought it was the best case ever. Suggestions?

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 ( Could use help deciding on processor)

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)

Motherboard no idea

Power supply (Probably over 900 Watts right?)

Hard Drive Really fast smaller hard drive. 10,000 or 15,000RPM .. (Minimum 100GB. Nothing over 300 Pointless for me

Graphic Cards (Ati 4870 dual or 4870X2. duals in future probably

A nice monitor...Max 24 Inch. Min 20 Inch. Prefer 22!

I don't know if I'm missing something but so far that's all I can think of.


Price range...well nothing really just not overboard.. like not over $1,800 dollars.

Thank you!
July 17, 2008 5:43:42 AM

How about you get us some prices - or an e-tailer you think you might use over there? You can convert SweCrowns to USD for us to give us an idea of the ballpark prices:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
Corsair or Mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-800
Radeon HD 4870
Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB HDD
Seagate Raptor 10K 150GB HDD
Samsung DVD Burner
an aftermarket CPU cooler you like
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750
Antec 900

Windows Vista SP1 64bit
Keyboard and mouse
22" Samsung LCD monitor
Speakers of your choice

For dual 4870X2 yeah a 900W PSU would be about the minimum you'd want. But I feel pretty sure 2x 4870X2 is going to bust your budget up pretty good.
July 17, 2008 2:27:50 PM

Well here is an example of price differences.
The first numbers for example 2100 means 2100SEK which is swedish currency...then i've made it what it equls in dolalrs....

example 2100SEK= $350.00...The price after the slash is what the price of it is on nEwegg in the US.

GIGABYTE GA-X48-DS4 LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard – Reta 1600=$265 /$225

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500
1000=$165.00 /$100

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
1600= $265.00 /$210

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
1400= $235.00 /$190

Sapphire 4870
2100=$350.00 /$300

GTX 280 /$450
4000-5500 /$650-850


The first numbers for example 2100 means 2100SEK which is swedish currency...then i've made it what it equls in dolalrs....



As you can see...It's pretty much $50.00 extra here on every single part...

I might stick with just one 4870 for now...I heard the 4870X2 that's coming runs way to hot...

Suggestions?

Thanks for help by the way
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July 18, 2008 5:57:17 PM

Can someone help? I'm ready to order
July 19, 2008 7:33:51 AM

I don't get it...There are a million "Building new PC" threads that have like 20 replies and mine don't get any...

What do I have to do in order to get help?
July 19, 2008 1:46:06 PM

You can look through all the options till you find a collection of parts you like.

Otherwise try this:

E8400 1.550 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=344772

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R 1.049 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=354387

Crucial DDR2 BallistiX TRACER PC6400 4096MB CL4 949 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=349843

HIS Radeon HD 4870 2.195 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=355023

Samsung DVD burner SATA 299 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=341057

Samsung SpinPoint T166 250GB SATA 385 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=339251

Antec Three Hundred case 495 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=354717

Corsair 750TX Power Suppy 950 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=340678

Zalman CNPS9500AT CPU cooler 429 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=320110

Benq 22" LCD G2200W TCO03 2.295 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=348480
Logitech G11 keyboard 490 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=338620
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse 575 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=333430
Logitech X-230 2.1 speakers 449 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=338404
Vista Home Prem Svensk 64bit 1.085 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=331586
July 19, 2008 2:13:17 PM

+1 for WR2

If you're building a gaming rig you focus on frames per second in games. That's your target.

Paying 150$ more for a quad is not justified. You get the same fps from a dual core (e8400 rox for that). EP45 is a good value mobo.

I'd get 2 x 4870 and CF or wait for the 4870x2 although i don't like waiting usually.

Get the WD6400AAKS. It's almost as fast as a 10.000 rpm drive in some tests, costs 1/3 (89$), and has 640 GB compared to what you want(100gb). I doubt you don't have what to do with space in a gaming rig. With vista + your regular programs + Crysis you hit the 50 gb mark. And don't tell me you buy a new gaming rig to play 1 game at a time. I have a WD6400AAKS right now, which was recommended by AEVM and it is very sweet. Also let me tell you i filled 600GB of it in the 1st three days. And trust me you won't even realise how fast you'll fill it. Just remember games nowadays take 10-12 gb installed each. And i'm sure you will want to stock some music/movies/programs/etc...

DVD-rW get the Samsung 203N, it has lightscribe, and i've been a fan of Samsung drives for a couple of years now. My last samsung cd-rw has written over 1000 cd's and i've never had any problems with it.(no i'm not a pirate :p P i just like keeping everything stored :D )

For the lcd i found the LG 227-wf (22") to be a great value for gaming(300$). It has 0 input lag, no ghosting and panel is good quality for the money. I was gonna buy it but i preffered getting a desk-bender Sony Multiscan G520 21 incher (incredible display btw :D ) for the higher resolutions as it can go up to 3.1 million pixels
July 19, 2008 3:41:16 PM

Wow thanks a lot WR2...

Thanks X3qtor

I added everything up and I'm looking at about 11-12,000 SEK which is like $1800-1,950 dollars which is sad but what are you going to do?

I'm selling my 2.5Ghz 4GB 256MB 8600M GT 320GB HD here for 9,000 and I bought it in the states for $900 so that will help.
July 19, 2008 3:52:12 PM

Laptop that is...^^^
July 19, 2008 5:24:51 PM

ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 2100 SEK
E8400 1.550 1500 SEK
HIS Radeon HD 4870 2.195 2100 SEK
Samsung DVD burner SATA 299 300 SEK
Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB 700 SEK
Corsair 750TX Power Suppy 95 1000 SEK
Crucial DDR2 BallistiX TRACER 2GB 550 SEK
Zalman CNPS9500AT Ultra Quiet CPU 469 SEK

so far....8720 SEK ---$1,450 dollars Haha


Reason I'm going with 2GB is I usually have someone from my family come over here from the states and I figure they can pick up some ram and take with them so I can save some money... 4GB of that memory here costs 160 dollars if you convert it...In the states its like 60 bucks...Ridiculous!

So far so good?

Still deciding on a monitor, case, and operating system keyboard and mouse.

July 19, 2008 5:45:02 PM

Samsung 226BW 2500 SEK
Samsung SyncMaster T220 2800 SEK

I think it's between these two.

Which would you recommend?
July 19, 2008 5:49:50 PM

I was shopping for 22" two weeks ago and I chose 226BW. I think it's great.
July 19, 2008 6:02:23 PM

Yeah I read about the T220 and it's not that great but it's stylish.

I'm looking at the 226BW....And I'm checking out some Lg screens.

Do you game with it?
July 19, 2008 6:05:53 PM

Yes - rFactor
July 19, 2008 6:16:43 PM

Does it look nice? Any problems? What would you say the cons are.
July 19, 2008 6:28:32 PM

It looks great, to be honest I don't think I would be able to recognize between more 22" when gaming if not really trying hard. Those differences mainly show in the tests. The picture is very good, nothing to complain about, colors are axactly how they should. There is a very little bleeding on the edges, but hey, show me a LCD for that money where isn't. Actually it is much smaller bleeding than on 225BW (which I had too). However I have one small problem, but that is not really caused by the LCD - I'm using it together with my notebook connected with the old analog RGB connector and the screen flickers a little bit when on 1680 x 1050 x 60 Hz . But that also happend on my previous onewhen using the old analog cable only. I also like the look of the LCD. The viewing angles are also quite good.
July 19, 2008 6:37:17 PM

Cool. I'm getting it. =)

Now...a case and keyboard and mouse...
July 19, 2008 6:39:50 PM

Cool. I'm getting it. =)

ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 2100 SEK
E8400 1.550 1500 SEK
HIS Radeon HD 4870 2.195 2100 SEK
Samsung DVD burner SATA 299 300 SEK
Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB 700 SEK
Corsair 750TX Power Suppy 95 1000 SEK
Crucial DDR2 BallistiX TRACER 2GB 550 SEK
Zalman CNPS9500AT Ultra Quiet CPU 469 SEK
Samsung 226BW 2500 SEK

Case Keyboard Mouse and then I'm ready I think
July 19, 2008 6:50:51 PM

I'd like to ask you why did you chose the
ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 mobo. What's better on that one compared to others. I'm not saying that it is not good, I'm building a system as well and I don't know what mobo to choose.
July 19, 2008 6:56:17 PM

I was recommended to buy it from a friend who reads a lot about mobo's...I don't really know much about it myself but I trust him.

Keep me posted if you find a different one. The reviews for this one look pretty good
July 19, 2008 7:15:02 PM

At this point, I think that I'm going to confess a little ignorance and see if anyone reading this might offer some insight.

I've been using computers for years, mainly for games or office work, but I have never really seen much of a difference between computer keyboards and cmoputer mice. Yes, I know that there are all kinds of variants from "ergonomic" keyboards & mice to wireless to versions with all kinds of add-ons and gadgets. However, I don't think that I've ever played anything that couldn't be enjoyed with a simple standard keyboard and a wheel mouse.

True, I don't play much of the MMPORG, WoW-style games, and I understand that some of those keybaords with programmable macro keys can be a lot of help in those cases. However, since you never said what kind of games you're looking to focus on, I don't know how important that would be.

As such, unless you're looking for a wireless combo for some reason, I'd suggest sticking with a simple, bare bones keyboard & wheel mouse. Very cheap, but very replaceable and very easy to get.
July 19, 2008 7:19:14 PM

I think especially for FPS player a good mouse is important. I used to have MX310 for $30 and i was great...
July 19, 2008 7:20:12 PM

I wanted to know why are you willing to pay extra for X48 chipset and not getting any more performance compared to P35 or X38 :) 
July 19, 2008 7:25:46 PM

Well lwhich mobo are you looking at Stev? cause I would love to save some money
July 19, 2008 7:28:05 PM

Griezz I somewhat agree with you. I am using an optical HP mouse that I stole from high school when I was in 11th grade...so I was like 16 or something and now I'm 20 and still using it and have no problems I think I prefer this little crap mouse over these gaming mouses'.

But as far as keyboard I think there are different "feels" that would convince someone to buy one over another. For me I like soft quiet keyboards like this vostro 1500 I'm on right now...Over one of those Microsoft plastic keyboards that wake up the neighbors when you type on it.
July 19, 2008 7:42:23 PM

Im now looking on

Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 iX48 Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard
and
Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5 Socket 775 X48 7.1 Channel audio DDR2 ATX Motherboard

both of them are cheaper...
July 19, 2008 9:38:58 PM

yeas that one. I might go for that one as well...
July 20, 2008 7:26:02 AM

Ordering today

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP 700 SEK
Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 1500 SEK
E8400 1.550 1500 SEK
HIS Radeon HD 4870 2.195 2100 SEK
Samsung DVD burner SATA 299 300 SEK
Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB 700 SEK
Corsair 750TX Power Suppy 95 1000 SEK ?
Crucial DDR2 BallistiX TRACER 2GB 550 SEK ?
Zalman CNPS9500AT Ultra Quiet CPU 469 SEK
Samsung 226BW 2500 SEK ?

Samsung 226BW or LG 227

750 Watt enough if I do crossfire later?

Crucial DDR2 BallistiX TRACER 2GB Why? Why not OZC dd2 1066?

I'm confused on the memory part...


July 20, 2008 7:47:39 AM

I know i've posted a lot on my own thread but I just read about the memory and I'm sticking with the Crucial DDr2 ballistix 2gb 800mhz.
July 20, 2008 11:28:21 AM

I have a very similar build:

LiteOn DH-20A4P-21C 20X DVD±RW/DL/RAM Black Bare Drive - OEM 14,87
Arctic Cooling AC-FRZ-7P Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 Processor Cooler 15,49
Sapphire HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 Dual DVI TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card 179,99
Antec TruePower Quattro 850W Modular PSU - 2x 8pin PCI-E 2x 6pin PCI-E 4x 12V Rails 97,84
NZXT Tempest Steel Mid Tower Case - No PSU 68,99
Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 iX48 Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard 139,96
Samsung HD502IJ SpinPoint F1 500GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache - OEM 42,29
Samsung HD502IJ SpinPoint F1 500GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache - OEM 42,29
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 XMS2 DHX Memory Non-ECC Unbuffered 67,92
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHz (1333MHz) Socket 775 6MB L2 Cache OEM Processor 119,98
(same LCD)

alltogether £789,62. I'm going for stronger PSU just in case...


July 20, 2008 11:34:21 AM

Yeah that is very similar. you like it?
July 20, 2008 11:43:24 AM

I'm sure I'll like it. And I'm sure I will OC it :D 
July 20, 2008 11:57:42 AM

Oh i thought you had the computer already. thats funny were building pretty much the same computer. We'll have to stay in touch so we can compare how they perform later when we are done building them.

I started ordering already today. Picking up my monitor tomorrow.
July 20, 2008 12:10:19 PM

That's a very good idea. I'm planning on getting mine in two weeks.
July 20, 2008 3:25:59 PM

I just picked up the Samsung t220 instead and I'm just sitting here laughing.

Going from a 15.4 to a 22 inch is literally ridiculous.
July 20, 2008 10:26:00 PM

Good job on picking up the T220 instead of the 226bw, i was recommend the T220 anyway over the other one. And enjoy your new rig man, hf playing :D 
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