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| woodyfly wrote :
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(Good CPU choice if you want to go AMD 
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64-bit is only for folks who plan on running >4Gb RAM. It offers bugger all performance advantages in speed terms (in fact since most software is still 32-bit it will run slightly slower in a Windows "Syswow" compatibilty layer).
I run 64-bit Windows XP BTW (as I have 4Gb RAM installed). It is a pain in the butt for compability with certain things (firewall software, DVD players, certain games, etc.) I work around these but it is an inconvenience at times. Drivers are now plentiful enough thankfully.
Bob
| wisecracker wrote : Useless comment & flame, Bob.
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The 2Mb cache Windsor will beat a 1Mb cache Brisbane at the same clocks (just look up the benchies). The guy has said he is a newbie so will probably not want to overclock at all. Your comment is therefore not very helpful and downright rude in fact (heh heh I love a good flame war ).
I would therefore still go with the older core (enabling Cool & Quite of course to mitigate the extra TDP). Since we have not been told what OP wants to do with the system you can't assume his apps. are not cache dependent (e.g. gaming).
Bob
| wisecracker wrote : Useless comment & flame, Bob.
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Some Windsors are 65 watt. The 3 I'm replacing with Phenoms in our PC's were all 65 watt models; 3800+, 4200+ and 3600+.
I'm just not sure whether to switch out my wife's ASUS 690G board with 9600 support and get her the same 780G board I have (or the ASUS 780G board my son has) with an 8750 or just go with a 9600 for now.
| wisecracker wrote :
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PC Chips is owned by ECS, I believe, and ECS mobos are all bundled with cheap X2 processors at Fry's. So I don't trust either brand. 
I agree that ASUS and Gigabyte have good boards. I found my Gigabyte 780G to be a bit better than the equivalent ASUS model in my son's PC.
4 gigs Kingston DDR2 800 two 1T SAMSUNG HD103UI
Sapphire 4870x2, Sony BDU-X10S BD-ROM
Antec Neo 650 PSU Antec Nine Hundred, Acer H213H 1080p LCD
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| yipsl wrote : Some Windsors are 65 watt. The 3 I'm replacing with Phenoms in our PC's were all 65 watt models; 3800+, 4200+ and 3600+.
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You sure have alot of computers yipsl!
White chocolate, dark chocolate or expensive chocolate? hmm I'll take them all!
Silting your wrist lowers blood pressure, maybe you should try it? Reply to amdfangirl
Mine in my sig. Here are the others:
My wife's:
Athlon X2 3800+
Antec Neo 550
Asus 690G board (can support a 9600 upgrade)
4 gigs Kingston DDR2 800
Asus 3650 DDR2
Sony DVD-R+/RW
17" Viewsonic A70f+ CRT
internal drives:
200 gig Seagate SATA
500 gig Seagate SATA
400 gig WD SATA
external drives:
400 gig Maxtor IDE in an external case
250 gig WD external
two 500 gig Lacie externals
Blame anime and modding for Morrowind etc. for all that hard drive space.
My son's:
Athlon X2 4200+
Antec True Power 550
ASUS 780G
250 gig Seagate SATA
ASUS 3650
17" Viewsonic A71f+
I'm using a Dell 17" given to me by a friend for the time being. I also have a 500 gig Lacie external.
Tired of switching out CPU's and motherboards. My wife needs something more powerful, just can't decide 9600 on the current board or get a Deneb or Nehalem later. I can wait for a CPU and motherboard as I want a 24" LCD and a Blu-ray drive (doesn't have to be burning can be combo)
I will get my wife a 4850 or 4870 and a 24" LCD, and my 8 year old son will get a 19" LCD and a 4650. What do you recommend for my wife's CPU upgrade (should last for two years or so):
9600 with the TLB bios fix enabled?
8650 with a Gigabyte or ASUS 780G board?
Wait for Nehalem or Deneb? (Might take money away from other upgrades).
I just can't decide. If I were single with only one PC, I could have a high end rig, but I'd rather have my wife and snarky ADHD kid around (and he is a smartaleck; he'll probably get banned from message boards in ten years or so ) He got mad that I upgraded my PC the other weekend and didn't upgrade his! I told him that back in 1979 I had to walk to the computation center uphill in the snow to play Advent, and that when I was his age we only had a black and white TV and the closest thing to a computer I'd seen was on episodes of The Time Tunnel ).
It's still cheaper building 3 budget PC's than it was building one PC around 1994 when I was single. I have an old 1995 issue of Computer Gaming World with a preview of Daggerfall (reason I kept it) and it had some expensive PC ads, buying from Computer Shopper wasn't much cheaper either.
Message edited by yipsl on 09-28-2008 at 02:54:09 PM
4 gigs Kingston DDR2 800 two 1T SAMSUNG HD103UI
Sapphire 4870x2, Sony BDU-X10S BD-ROM
Antec Neo 650 PSU Antec Nine Hundred, Acer H213H 1080p LCD
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