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August 12, 2008 4:36:14 PM

I want to play these games
Bioshock 2, Crysis, Fallout, Half Life Episode *, Project Origin, and games like that in the future

which one would perform the best?
HD 4850, 8800 GT, 9800 GTX

Question: I have a 400 Watt PSU. Would i be able to handle any of those cards or would i have to buy a new one?

More about : 4850 8800 9800

August 12, 2008 4:37:28 PM

8800GT for the best value and overlock it to the MAX. it beats 4580 by ten miles
August 12, 2008 4:41:35 PM

Would i have to buy a new PSU? and would it take more energy if i overclock?
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a b U Graphics card
August 12, 2008 4:50:10 PM

sry for the double post. wats the psu u have now?
August 12, 2008 4:51:08 PM

senseininjaalex said:
Would i have to buy a new PSU? and would it take more energy if i overclock?


400W will be fine with 8800 GT even when overclocked
August 12, 2008 4:56:51 PM

According to Concrum, the 8800GT doesn't need an OC to beat a 4850, and only needs it (if it does) to beat the 4870. :p 

Rather, you get what you pay for; the 8800GT is very good for $140US or so, but don't expect it to compete with a $180US or so 4850, even with a hefty OC. Remember that the 8800GT and the 9800GTX have the same cores at their heart, it's just that the 9800GTX has clock rates of 675/1100 MHz compared to 600/900 MHz, a pretty significant step; while you could potentially get the GTX core speeds on the GT, don't expect quite the same out of the RAM. And even then, the 9800GTX does get consistently beaten by the 4850.
August 12, 2008 5:01:09 PM

nottheking said:


Rather, you get what you pay for; the 8800GT is very good for $140US or so, but don't expect it to compete with a $180US or so 4850, even with a hefty OC. Remember that the 8800GT and the 9800GTX have the same cores at their heart, it's just that the 9800GTX has clock rates of 675/1100 MHz compared to 600/900 MHz, a pretty significant step; while you could potentially get the GTX core speeds on the GT, don't expect quite the same out of the RAM. And even then, the 9800GTX does get consistently beaten by the 4850.



cheapest 8800GT is 110$

thats why i said it has the best value
August 12, 2008 5:03:34 PM

i really like the 4850 because based of my research it is better than the 8800 gt, but Slighter lower than a 9800 GTX by like 2-4 FPS's.
But would my 400W PSU handle it or would i have to buy a new one.

http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/350295-...

(i have about $200 and a 400w PSU and i want to get the most of it.)
August 12, 2008 5:13:55 PM

How come ATI cards require more energy than NVIDIA cards? Cause 400W isn't enough for HD 4850.
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a b U Graphics card
August 12, 2008 5:22:50 PM

Man, what are you talking about!!! 8800GT better than HD4850? OMG! I had have never even heard that! Is it true, guys?
August 12, 2008 5:27:58 PM

u need like 28 amps on ur 12V rail to run a 4850 or a 8800gt. most likely 90% sure that ur psu cant do it.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
August 12, 2008 5:30:36 PM

Well man, PSU/Money is not a matter. I need the better one. 4850 or 8800GT? Please tell me.
August 12, 2008 5:33:48 PM

400W isnt enof for any of the cards.
if u wish 2 play those games at 1400x900 or bello at max details, go with 8800GT or maybe 9800GT. otherwise go with 4850.......

PS: don listen 2 concrum.....he was appointed onli for entertainment purpose
August 12, 2008 5:38:10 PM

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Well man, PSU/Money is not a matter. I need the better one. 4850 or 8800GT? Please tell me.


get a 8400GS and OC it man. it will flyby GTX280 with no troble.....
August 12, 2008 5:46:24 PM

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Well man, PSU/Money is not a matter. I need the better one. 4850 or 8800GT? Please tell me.

The 4850 is way faster than the 8800GT; they don't even compete in the same category... Did you take what concrum said seriously? If so, please turn your trolldar on :D 
August 12, 2008 5:48:54 PM

sarwar_r87 said:
get a 8400GS and OC it man. it will flyby GTX280 with no troble.....


haha
truth.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
August 12, 2008 5:52:11 PM

What are you talking about????? The texture fillrate of 8400GS is 3.7 GTexels. Where 8800GT is 33.0 GTexels and 4850 has 30.0 Gtexels. Though the memory bandwidth of 4850 is 64.00 GB/s. Where 8800GT is of 57.6 GB/s and 8400GS is of 6.4 GB/s. LOL!
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
August 12, 2008 5:55:17 PM

I'm the Tian of Bangla Gamer forum. What are you Sarwar? Had you been ever at BG?
August 12, 2008 5:56:22 PM

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What are you talking about????? The texture fillrate of 8400GS is 3.7 GTexels. Where 8800GT is 33.0 GTexels and 4850 has 30.0 Gtexels. Though the memory bandwidth of 4850 is 64.00 GB/s. Where 8800GT is of 57.6 GB/s and 8400GS is of 6.4 GB/s. LOL!


thats y i said OC......upon doin so the 3.7GTexels of 8800 will jump 2 37GTexel and memory bandwith to 64GB/s

just make sure u have a constant supply of liquid nitogen.........OCin it by such large margin can produce lot of head. :D 
August 12, 2008 5:59:22 PM

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I'm the Tian of Bangla Gamer forum. What are you Sarwar? Had you been ever at BG?


"wat r u" mane??? no....not been to that forum
a b U Graphics card
August 12, 2008 6:01:09 PM

4850 all day! The End!
August 12, 2008 6:10:12 PM

This is one of the least literate threads I've seen on this board.
August 12, 2008 6:13:37 PM

MooseMuffin said:
This is one of the least literate threads I've seen on this board.


I was thinking the same thing. Looks like some people here need Hooked on Phonics.
August 12, 2008 6:21:47 PM

IndigoMoss said:
I was thinking the same thing. Looks like some people here need Hooked on Phonics.


lol
reading concrum's posts is having a long term effect on me.....a bad one :pt1cable:  ....hang arround for a while....ull get the picture
August 12, 2008 6:25:54 PM

if you want to get a card thats broken get the 8800gt
August 12, 2008 8:22:10 PM

I've researched even more and 4850 is only 3 fps's off of 9800 gtx which is like $20 dollars more and 8800 GT is not as good by about 10 fps's
August 12, 2008 8:24:13 PM

concrum said:
cheapest 8800GT is 110$

thats why i said it has the best value

I've not seen any 8800GTs priced that low. The lowest I see is $120US, and with a couple of exceptions, they rely upon rebates to reach that price.

Gnyipw said:
How come ATI cards require more energy than NVIDIA cards? Cause 400W isn't enough for HD 4850.

Depends on the quality of that PSU. A 4850 calls for 110w of power to itself, which ALL comes off of the +12v rail. Most PSU makers pretend that you'll use a lot of +3.3v and +5v power, which are required to add up to actually get the specified rating, so on your typical 400w PSU, you'd be lucky to get around 200w actually usable on the +12v rails, where 99% of the power draw for a high-end rig goes.

concrum said:
thanks, just look at the bench. even better get 8800GTS instead, its as cheap as 120$ and its in par with 4850 ( 180$)

The only place that implies that is a highly flawed benchmark result seen at a single sight that has been widely discredited as it isn't consistent with all the other results seen for the exact same game and settings, leading to the conclusion that with that test, something odd happened that caused an anomaly; perhaps a freak software/driver conflict, or something.

Other test results are far more consistent, giving the 4850 a solid performance lead varying to as much as 40% over the 9800GTX+ in most games, including Crysis, the very same game used in that flawed benchmark you cite. Totalled up, this would make the 4850 as much as 70% more powerful than the 8800GT, meaning you'd need, in theory, a 70% overclock for it to reach it. That means a 1020 MHz core clock, (2550 MHz shader) with 1530 MHz (3060 MHz DDR effective) rate for the RAM.

concrum said:
8800GTS best bang for the money

If you're counting rebates, then The 4850 is $150US, which at 25% more than the 8800GT, would leave *it* the better bargain for your money, since it trumps even the 9800GTX+, which has clock rates of 738/1100MHz, which are 23/22.2% higher respectively, and comfortably above the range of what 90% of 8800GT cards out there could achieve through overclocking.
a b U Graphics card
August 12, 2008 8:25:55 PM

simple put get the 4850 beats 8800/9800gtx and ur psu with 400w is enough to run it.
August 12, 2008 8:29:47 PM

SO WAIT.. after anyone else reply's

Can my 400w PSU HANDLE 4850.

ive been getting mixed answers. T.T
August 13, 2008 10:28:50 AM

Go get the hd 4850. Seriously. Better than the other cards when enabling AA and AF. and yes ur 500w psu suggest can do more than enough with the card. The 400w MAYBE can't do it depends on how much power ur using in ur pc.
August 13, 2008 11:43:42 AM

no....400W is too low.....even for 8800GT.so no go for 4850 with 400W psu . get 500 minimum
August 13, 2008 1:33:42 PM

LOL, why do people even now still reply to concrum?

I have an 8800GT, it's a great card, but I would say get the 4850, that's the least I would get if I were shopping now.
August 13, 2008 6:38:31 PM

Senseininjaalex, I believe that PSU should be sufficient to handle the 4850, though if memory serves, that's not a terribly high-quality one, so it'll merely be "sufficient."

The Lads said:
LOL, why do people even now still reply to concrum?

Because we can. And it can be fun.
a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2008 6:42:57 PM

A 400W should be sufficient for a 4850, though depending on the quality and 12v amperage, it could be close. The 4850 outruns a 9800GTX, and absolutely flattens an 8800GT - it would be my choice.
August 13, 2008 7:04:31 PM

4850 wins. buy it.
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