Tom's Hardware > Forum > Graphic & Displays > Graphics Cards > 280GX2 - sooner than later

280GX2 - sooner than later

Forum Graphic & Displays : Graphics Cards - 280GX2 - sooner than later

Tom's Hardware: Over 1.4 million members in 6 different countries available to answer all your high-tech questions. Sign up now! Its free!
Page:    Previous 1 2 Next Bottom Search this thread
Word :    Username :           
 

We all know GX2 version of GTX200 will be coming sooneer than later, i have to admit 4870X2 is a magnificent card but its way too overpriced to me.

anyway, just like when ATI releases 3870X2, it was a hell of a card but when Nvidia releases 98xx, ATI's best offering looks just like a cat, a silly cat especially when running games.

So, folks with SLI board should not worry, GX2 of GTX200 will be coming soon and will take 4870X2 down and make it looks like a cat.


discuss.

Sponsored Links
Register or log in to remove.

concrum wrote :

We all know GX2 version of GTX200 will be coming sooneer than later, i have to admit 4870X2 is a magnificent card but its way too overpriced to me.

anyway, just like when ATI releases 3870X2, it was a hell of a card but when Nvidia releases 98xx, ATI's best offering looks just like a cat, a silly cat especially when running games.

So, folks with SLI board should not worry, GX2 of GTX200 will be coming soon and will take 4870X2 down and make it looks like a cat.


discuss.



you're a troll.

discuss.

Reply to xxjudgmentxx

hmm, yet, you recommended the gtx280 even when new, and now the x2 is too expensive, odd that.

------------------------------ I'm a git, deal with it.

Antec 1200,PC Power & Cooling 750,Gigabyte DS4-x48,Intel Q9550@3.4 W/Xigmatek S1283,8GB OCZ DDR2 800,ATI 4870X2,X-FI>CA 640C amp>Tannoy R300/Senn 595's
Reply to strangestranger

Oh the 4870x2 is too expensive, right, as if the GTX280 is NOT overpriced at all...
ANd how much will the 280GX2 cost?

------------------------------ Needs a job...
Reply to romulus47plus1

Um dream on. No 280GX2 coming, even if you say so. . .

Reply to San Pedro

concrum wrote :

We all know GX2 version of GTX200 will be coming sooneer than later, i have to admit 4870X2 is a magnificent card but its way too overpriced to me.

anyway, just like when ATI releases 3870X2, it was a hell of a card but when Nvidia releases 98xx, ATI's best offering looks just like a cat, a silly cat especially when running games.

So, folks with SLI board should not worry, GX2 of GTX200 will be coming soon and will take 4870X2 down and make it looks like a cat.


discuss.


ROFL.LMAO.OMG :pt1cable: :lol: :lol: :na: :na: .Oh this is just to funny .You should do stand up comedy.Oh my ribs ,this is the best day ever,thanks :cry: :D :lol: :D :lol: :pt1cable:

Reply to ro3dog

Guys ..... didn't you get it yet that concrum is on Nvidia's payroll ... his goal is to post crap threads on Nvidia products. Obviously any replies you make trying to point the flaws in his logic will be ignored. WOT

------------------------------ Intel Core i5 750 Asrock P55 Extreme 4GB OCZ DDR3-1333 BFG GTX275OC Benq 24" FP241vw Creative X-Fi Fatality pro OCZ Vertex 60gb 2x Seagate Sata2 500gb LG GGC H20L Blu-Ray/HDDVD TT Toughpower 650W Antec 1200
Reply to smartel7070

He starts a thread about a card that doesnt exist, talks about the competitions last generation, and the prices are supposed to be 1 third of what they are now. WELCOME TO DREAMLAND

------------------------------ I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn

Hmmm this card would need at least (in my opinion more but I'll give it a chance) 50% more power that the single version.

Doesn't that mean a 3rd pcie connector and isn't that against pcie spec???

Reply to frostys

smartel7070 wrote :

Guys ..... didn't you get it yet that concrum is on Nvidia's payroll ... his goal is to post crap threads on Nvidia products. Obviously any replies you make trying to point the flaws in his logic will be ignored. WOT



True, but instead of trying to flame him for the nvidiot he obviously is, we are informing those who do not know.
Nvidia will simply not be able to produce a viable dual-gpu solution with the G280 core due to the fact that they only do dual pcb cards.. which would be impossible considering I highly doubt nvidia can strap two single slot coolers and have it running under 100C. Secondly it would most likely need two 8 pin connectors to power such a monster :na:

------------------------------ // Intel C2D E6750 @ 3.2ghz 1.35v // Asus P5K P35 // 2gb Patriot 1000mhz // Sapphire HD4850 @700core 1100mem // Antec neo 500 HE // Antec 900 // SB X-FI // WD 250gb Sata-2 //
Reply to terror112

If you guys think nVidia will just sit and let ATI have the fastest card, your all dreaming. You should know better that that, they will not let ATI have the crown, and thats all he was trying to say. My partner and I are the new owners of www.pureoverclock.com and we are in the process of getting review samples, if there is going to be a new GX2 i am sure we will hear about it.

By the way, stop by and check us out, CoolIt Systems sent us some of their cooling products to use for prizes in contests that we will be starting very soon. There is also a 3DMarkVantage key code up for grabs for who ever comes up with the best idea for our first contest, we will also have new reviews posted very soon.

Stan

------------------------------ X58 Classified
965 Extreme at 4GHz 12TEC Boreas
2- GTX 295s
12 Gbs CSX 2000MHz
Reply to stan116

lol, it would have been slightly more credible if concrum had said they were coming out with a GTX290 or something of the sort, but a dual card? ha! it'll have to come with a free PSU and fire extiguisher for people to buy it.

P.S. 10$ says within the next week someone says Nvidia is coming out with a GTX 290

P.P.S In response to the post above mine, no Nvidia will not let ATI have the crown, they will almost certainly go berzerk on the next generation and try to plant ATI's face in the ground, I just hope ATI is gonna be ready.


Message edited by jonyb222 on 08-13-2008 at 06:31:54 PM
------------------------------ It is a very newb question, which is why I ask it.
Reply to jonyb222

A 280GTX x2 will never happen. Even after the fall die shrink the GPU on that bad boy is to monolithic for such a device. There will be a refresh of the 260/280 before X-mas most likely, with a shrunk down GPU.. maybe they will call it call it 280GTX++ :)

------------------------------ We can't stop here, This is bat country!!!!!
Reply to Lavacon

concrum wrote :

We all know GX2 version of GTX200 will be coming sooneer than later, i have to admit 4870X2 is a magnificent card but its way too overpriced to me.

anyway, just like when ATI releases 3870X2, it was a hell of a card but when Nvidia releases 98xx, ATI's best offering looks just like a cat, a silly cat especially when running games.

So, folks with SLI board should not worry, GX2 of GTX200 will be coming soon and will take 4870X2 down and make it looks like a cat.


discuss.




Fanboy alert!!! When 280gtx came out it was like $650....thanks for red team the prices went down :] You say that just released 4870x2 @ $569.99 is expensive....? The prices will go down you nuublet x(:

Reply to alvine

Really, who buys this crap anyway? Systems that require >1KW power supplies to play games at idiotically high resolutions!
No womder PC gaming is in the state its in. Hardware requirement have become insane and top-of-the-line hardware is outdated in a few months.
Let this guy buy the dual GPU GTX 280. I'm sure its top dog status will last a quarter of a year at best.


Message edited by iggybeans on 08-13-2008 at 06:44:42 PM
Reply to iggybeans

I think ATI is prepared an is also moving on to something else,like the cinema 2.0.Intel talks about raytracing,Nvidia is pushing physics,but I think this cinema 2.0 thing looks amazing and am hoping that it gets here with in the next 2 game cycles.What do you (plural) think.

Reply to ro3dog

Responding to the troll "concrum" you feed the troll. You acknowledge his fanboy/false/flame posts, you give the troll a plate of food. If we all stopped posting and responding...maybe the troll will go away :pfff:

------------------------------ Antec P182, i7 920 3.7Ghz @ 1.3V, Xigmatek 1283, Asus P6T X58, 3 x 2048MB OCZ Plat DDR3 1600 RAM, 2 EVGA GTX260 Core 216 in SLI, WD 160gb,320GB 1TB WD Black. Corsair 750TX. Acer 24" Monitor. Vista x64 Home Premium.
Reply to one-shot

gtx280gx2 is a dream. what nvidia could do best is release gtx280 on 55nm coupled with ddr5 ram......thats all i think is possible for nvidia rit now.
*****

maybe concurm jus likes to prove he is a lame lame lame wannabe clown. i don think nvidia wouldn want to hire anyone and give chance to ppl to laugh at them.

------------------------------ x2 5600+@2.8; 2GB RAM 800Mhz; xfx 9600GT xt; 320GB HDD; 420W thermaltake PSU
Reply to sarwar_r87

Nvidia is not in any position to respond to ATI.

Right now they need to focus on two things. Fixing their ever growing lineup of failing graphic cards and getting the GTX 200 series on the 55nm process.

Once they are on 55nm they will be able to lower prices, release a higher clocked GTX 290 and than release a GTX 200 GX2 card.

Nvidia will just have to swallow it's pride and let ATI have the best card for a while. With the current games available a card that powerful is really only needed by people with a 30" displays anyways.

Reply to daveloft

one-shot wrote :

Responding to the troll "concrum" you feed the troll. You acknowledge his fanboy/false/flame posts, you give the troll a plate of food. If we all stopped posting and responding...maybe the troll will go away :pfff:



but then who will make us feel better after a long hard day.......we need entertainments :??:

------------------------------ x2 5600+@2.8; 2GB RAM 800Mhz; xfx 9600GT xt; 320GB HDD; 420W thermaltake PSU
Reply to sarwar_r87

concrum wrote :

We all know GX2 version of GTX200 will be coming sooneer than later, i have to admit 4870X2 is a magnificent card but its way too overpriced to me.

anyway, just like when ATI releases 3870X2, it was a hell of a card but when Nvidia releases 98xx, ATI's best offering looks just like a cat, a silly cat especially when running games.

So, folks with SLI board should not worry, GX2 of GTX200 will be coming soon and will take 4870X2 down and make it looks like a cat.


discuss.



Really, get a life.

------------------------------ Needs a job...
Reply to romulus47plus1

guys why are you fueling his stupidity, he's obviously toying with us

i mean seriously, no1 can be this into this graphics card business, even a dimwit

he enjoys fueling flame wars, don't reply to any of his messages, just give him a red thumb, make his message dissappear, and that's it really

Reply to eklipz330

aye or just respond to all his threads like i do now

CONCRUM SHUT THE F**K UP YOUR EITHER INCREDIBLY STUPID OR JUST HAVE A NVIDIA TATTOO ON YOUR ARSE!.

Reply to samuraiblade

ro3dog wrote :

I think ATI is prepared an is also moving on to something else,like the cinema 2.0.Intel talks about raytracing,Nvidia is pushing physics,but I think this cinema 2.0 thing looks amazing and am hoping that it gets here with in the next 2 game cycles.What do you (plural) think.



Now I may be wrong in the following statement so bear with me but:
Isn't ATI already able to do PhyxX and Raytracing at a decent level with little or no driver modification, that cuppled with the Havok physics that is being ported soon, I'd say ATI is on the right track

------------------------------ It is a very newb question, which is why I ask it.
Reply to jonyb222

55 nm GTX280...sure...They have too...and then they'll get competitive again witha a even lower price, but GDDR5 is not likely...they explayned on tomshardware how the Nvidia architecture is diffrent from ATI's and they can't yet adopt GDDR 5.

Reply to T2bus

How do you power up a card made of two GTX 280 cards? At most, a PCI slot with two 8-pin connectors would be able to get 375W if I got my math right.

 

If a single GTX 280 can reach 236W under load, a sandwich made of two of them would need 472W, give or take a few. Even with a die-shrink to 55 nm and lower clocks, I still don't see it happening.

 

Nice try though... :)

 


Edit: oh, and Concrum, what's up with using "cat" as an insult??? Cats are smart. My cat has never ever posted garbage on a forum, for example.

Message quoted 1 times
Message edited by aevm on 08-13-2008 at 07:35:55 PM
Reply to aevm

aevm wrote :

How do you power up a card made of two GTX 280 cards? At most, a PCI slot with two 8-pin connectors would be able to get 375W if I got my math right.

If a single GTX 280 can reach 236W under load, a sandwich made of two of them would need 472W, give or take a few. Even with a die-shrink to 55 nm and lower clocks, I still don't see it happening.

Nice try though... :)


Edit: oh, and Concrum, what's up with using "cat" as an insult??? Cats are smart. My cat has never ever posted garbage on a forum, for example.



don worry......nvidia will find a way. maybe a buildin PSU or direct line from the city power grid.....

------------------------------ x2 5600+@2.8; 2GB RAM 800Mhz; xfx 9600GT xt; 320GB HDD; 420W thermaltake PSU
Reply to sarwar_r87

sarwar_r87 wrote :

don worry......nvidia will find a way. maybe a buildin PSU or direct line from the city power grid.....



They may include a nuclear generator with it. You know, like those in Red Alert 2.

------------------------------ Needs a job...
Reply to romulus47plus1

concrum wrote :

We all know GX2 version of GTX200 will be coming sooneer than later, i have to admit 4870X2 is a magnificent card but its way too overpriced to me.

anyway, just like when ATI releases 3870X2, it was a hell of a card but when Nvidia releases 98xx, ATI's best offering looks just like a cat, a silly cat especially when running games.

So, folks with SLI board should not worry, GX2 of GTX200 will be coming soon and will take 4870X2 down and make it looks like a cat.


discuss.



How is the 4870x2 "way too overpriced" for you? How much do YOU think it should cost? And when the GTX280 was $650, why weren't you complaining it was "way too overpriced?" I'm so sick of the **** on this forum from insanely out of line fanboys. The 4870x2 is a FLAGSHIP duel GPU graphics card, it's supposed to be expensive and full of brute force, which is it. But saying the most powerful graphics on earth at $550 is overpriced.... absolutely ridiculous.

Reply to crysis900

Wow...a lot of people arguing over speculated product without any information to either support or debunk it. If anyone posting here is working at nVidia or AMD/ATI, please let us know what information is correct. Everyone else, please, keep speculating.

This is almost as bad as the Brett Favre BS from the past month...everything is speculation until something happens...that doesn't mean its worth arguing over until then.

------------------------------ The Pastafarian belief of heaven stresses that it contains beer volcanoes and a stripper factory. Hell is oddly similar, except that the beer is stale, and the strippers have VD
Reply to rubix_1011

Go Jets

------------------------------ We can't stop here, This is bat country!!!!!
Reply to Lavacon

nVidia should just put All the defective G86 or G84 Chips on a card and Concrum will think its better then ........ Well he may never know.........

I think they have bigger issues then beating ATI now!

1Haplo

Reply to 1HAPLO

one-shot wrote :

Responding to the troll "concrum" you feed the troll. You acknowledge his fanboy/false/flame posts, you give the troll a plate of food. If we all stopped posting and responding...maybe the troll will go away :pfff:



The irony replying with a message like this is palpable...Of course a GTX280X2 will never happen...the pcb size alone...fuhgitabowd the power requirements...

I just wanna know when they are releasing 790FX mobos with the new SB750 southbridge?!?!?!


Message edited by chunkymonster on 08-13-2008 at 08:37:12 PM
------------------------------ ASRock X58 Extreme - Core i7 920 - 6GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3 1600 - Sapphire 4890 2GB - Creative Xtreme Gamer - 4-80GB WD in RAID0 on HighPoint RR 2310 as OS drive - 1-320GB WD scratch drive - Corsair CMPSU 750TX - HAF 932 - Hanns-G 281DPB @ 1900x1200
Reply to chunkymonster

You're hijacking the troll's thread. I guess that's a good thing :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] fx%2bsb750

Reply to aevm

concrum wrote :

Nvidia will lowered G280 to 350$ and release 280GX2 as low as 499$. Cant get better than that. Nvidia luvs gamers.


That's why they sat on the 8800GTX cash cow for so long without releasing any updates or faster cards? Because they love gamers?

Reply to cjl

Why is Concrum not banned? Can we start a petition or something? Seriously I'm suck of this ****.

Reply to jcorqian

roflcopter...thats pretty much all I got, I think my 2 year old god son takes a hint better than this....my god my gf dog can ::)


Please see the error of your ways and repent!!! go and whip yourself with an Ati videocard and repeat the words of the Proccessor: Pwned, Pwned, Pwned.

------------------------------ PSN: L1qu1dat1on
Steam: Darkerliquid
XBL: L1qu1dat1on
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/861526.png
Reply to L1qu1d

strangestranger wrote :

hmm, yet, you recommended the gtx280 even when new, and now the x2 is too expensive, odd that.




QFT




concrum needs to be banned.

Reply to ovaltineplease

ovaltineplease wrote :

QFT




concrum needs to be banned.



i no concrum is an embarasment for nvidia and its fans, but y ban him.......he makes me laugh!!! :p :kaola:

------------------------------ x2 5600+@2.8; 2GB RAM 800Mhz; xfx 9600GT xt; 320GB HDD; 420W thermaltake PSU
Reply to sarwar_r87

concrum wrote :

We all know GX2 version of GTX200 will be coming sooneer than later, i have to admit 4870X2 is a magnificent card but its way too overpriced to me.

anyway, just like when ATI releases 3870X2, it was a hell of a card but when Nvidia releases 98xx, ATI's best offering looks just like a cat, a silly cat especially when running games.

So, folks with SLI board should not worry, GX2 of GTX200 will be coming soon and will take 4870X2 down and make it looks like a cat.


discuss.


And how much you think will cost 280GX2 ? i gues like 1000$ or even more as nvidia will need to use more layers for board to make all necessacy connections betwen both chips and 4870x2 still beat it at least in some games for almost double of price. And realy dont want to see cooling for that 2x 236W of heat it coud make :)

Reply to xrodney

Even at 55nm, the 280 would be impossible to x2. The 260 may, and I mean just barely, do it. What I find to be disturbing about a 260x2 is, we all know that a good portion of that card is disabled. To do that purposely, and to 2 chips, well, thatd be a new low for nVidia. And the cost would never go below 500$. But if they really want that top spot...

------------------------------ I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn

two PCB just like GX2. it will beat 4870X2 CFX for sure. and it will be released as low as 499-549, seing GTX280 could be found as low as 410$ right now.

G280 wil be as low as 299$ at the times 280GX2 arrives.

Reply to concrum

The Lads wrote :

Will it be water cooled?



no need for that at all, it wil runs much cooler than 4870X2

Reply to concrum

concrum wrote :

two PCB just like GX2. it will beat 4870X2 CFX for sure. and it will be released as low as 499-549, seing GTX280 could be found as low as 410$ right now.

G280 wil be as low as 299$ at the times 280GX2 arrives.


The TDP of the G280 at 65nm is 236 watts. Since anything over 250watts is impossible, nVidia would have to severly cripple a G280x2, even at 55nm. Being that the 4870 isnt that far off from G280 performance, being that the power requirements currently make the x2 design impossible, being that even shrunk down, the G280x2 would be at least 30% larger, and thus more expensive, being that the G280 uses a 512 bit bus, which requires many more connects, which also have to be precise, makes the card more expeensive, and finally, being that nVidia has harmed its reputation lately regaurding price/performance of their cards, nVidia, IF they could pull off this miracle, wouldnt sell very many of them

------------------------------ I went drifting, thru the capitols of tin, where men cant walk and cant freely talk, and sons turn their fathers in
Reply to jaydeejohn

hmm funny that the brand new wow ridiculously fast GTX280 is using the same memory type as my 7600GS. kudos to ATI for using the initiative and doing something instead of sitting on their arses and crying when they lose money in Q2 like some other company...

and even if someone banned concrum he would just make a new account...why bother.

just let the fanboy sit on his chair and laugh at our comments. how about we ignore him and post our comments to each other...

Reply to V3NOM
Previous
1 2
Tom's Hardware > Forum > Graphic & Displays > Graphics Cards > 280GX2 - sooner than later
Go to:

There are 644 identified and unidentified users. To see the list of identified users, Click here.

Please mind

You are about to answer a thread that has been inactive for more than 6 months.
If you still wish to proceed, please ensure that your posting is original and does not duplicate or overlap any prior responses to this thread.

Add a reply Cancel
Sponsored links
  • Ask the community now
  • Publish
Ad
They won a badge
Join us in greeting them