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August 14, 2008 8:47:56 AM

I had a 9800gx2. It was faulty as I lose an inch on all four sides of the OS(Vista) interface (literally it was expanded). I am using a 28" monitor at 1900x1200 resolution. My motherboard is P5k Pro, crossfire is not possbile (as recommended).

I was asked to exchange the gfx card and the supplier recommended not to use SLi for the mean while and try the 4870.

Should i get the 280gtx or the 4870 to overcome this problem? They said once I got it I have to stick with what it no exchange.

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August 14, 2008 9:40:14 AM

go for 4870 or 4870x2 if play games a lot as 4870x2 would rule on that resolution :) 
August 14, 2008 9:43:43 AM

cheers for the reply. what if i do more of graphical work?
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August 14, 2008 9:53:00 AM

4870x2 for that monitor is the best choice.
August 14, 2008 10:10:04 AM

i'd go with G280, its much i mean MUCH cheaper than 4870X2, it got great value, best bang for the money ( 400$ vs 560$ for 4870X2)
August 14, 2008 10:31:59 AM

thanx for the replies. The only concern is which one will fix the problem from the 9800GX2.
I lose an inch off the screen cause the OS interface is expanded off screen when I use the HD cable not the normal VGA. This only happens when the gfx card driver is installed.
August 14, 2008 10:34:20 AM

remremrem said:
cheers for the reply. what if i do more of graphical work?

Then it depend on your needs. for working with photoshop and such stuff 4870 is enough, but if you do some serious rendering requiring lots of CPU power or graphic memory, then you could probably use 2,4TFLOPS computing power 4870x2 can offer, ofcourse in case SW you are using can use it.
August 14, 2008 10:42:48 AM

concrum said:
i'd go with G280, its much i mean MUCH cheaper than 4870X2, it got great value, best bang for the money ( 400$ vs 560$ for 4870X2)

I am sure you already read STFU responses today, but there is it once more from me.
You evidently have either mental disorder or have no serious idea what are you talking about.
4870x2 in most cases leave G280 in dust by margin 40%+ if game have good scalability, if not and game favour nvidia performance is quite similar.
4870x2 is even able beat 2 G280 in SLI in several games.
August 14, 2008 10:48:40 AM

remremrem said:
thanx for the replies. The only concern is which one will fix the problem from the 9800GX2.
I lose an inch off the screen cause the OS interface is expanded off screen when I use the HD cable not the normal VGA. This only happens when the gfx card driver is installed.

It seems to me to be just driver issue.
anyway 4870 or 4870x2 are basicly "same cards" and should work in same way.

Only time this happend to me was when i used higher resolution then is my monitor capable off over DVI connection.
August 14, 2008 10:49:22 AM

xrodney said:
Then it depend on your needs. for working with photoshop and such stuff 4870 is enough, but if you do some serious rendering requiring lots of CPU power or graphic memory, then you could probably use 2,4TFLOPS computing power 4870x2 can offer, ofcourse in case SW you are using can use it.



the 4870x2 you mentioned is that 2 of the 4870 or the 4870X2(already crossfired)
August 14, 2008 10:53:44 AM

4870 is enof for ur monitor....but if u r lookin for better future proofing, go with x2........gtx280 is inbetween 4870 @ 4870x2.....but i don think its worth the money.
August 14, 2008 10:54:20 AM

remremrem said:
the 4870x2 you mentioned is that 2 of the 4870 or the 4870X2(already crossfired)


Its dual GPU single card using internal CF conection betwen chips and comming with 2GB DDR5 memory.
Good thing on this "little beast" is that it not require CF supported board and will work on any PCIe 2.0 board (not sure if it will work on PCIe 1.0 but it most probably should)
August 14, 2008 11:02:45 AM




Not to mention 9800GT+ SLI total price=450$ still beats 4870X2 CFX price = 830$!!

taking about best bang for the money.........................
August 14, 2008 11:54:01 AM

crysis is "nvidia product" givin bad performance on ati.....but still lok at this


(^look at 1900x1200.....zero scaling on 1440x900 coz noone sane would not get 4870x2 2 game on that small resolution)



btw....wats a 9800GT+

August 14, 2008 12:19:51 PM

concrum said:


Not to mention 9800GT+ SLI total price=450$ still beats 4870X2 CFX price = 830$!!

taking about best bang for the money.........................


Speaking about G280 vs 4870x2 in crisis from tomshardware itself and as everyone knows crysis favour nvidia.

a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2008 12:39:41 PM

concrum said:
http://techreport.com/r.x/radeon-hd-4870-x2/crysis-1920-high.gif


Not to mention 9800GT+ SLI total price=450$ still beats 4870X2 CFX price = 830$!!

taking about best bang for the money.........................



WoW!
Your single picture review has so convinced me!
All the other benchmarks on the interwebs are now proven wrong!!
YaY nVidia!
But wait!!
You forgot to tell him how a water cooled 8800GT will beat SLI 4870's in every game!!11!!!1
O the PWNAGW!
What ever will ATI do?
/sarcasam
August 14, 2008 12:41:05 PM

Why are we looking at Crysis only? I don't see any post from the OP that he is exclusively playing Crysis.

Look at these:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4870-x2-amd,1992-7....

In Crysis the 4870X2 has a slight edge, in everything else it eats the GTX 280 for breakfast. There is a lot of variation in pricing of the GTX 280 as they range from $450 to $650. The 4870X2 is $550. Compared to the most inexpensive GTX 280, I still think the extra $100 gives your reasonably more performance.
August 14, 2008 12:42:43 PM

outlw6669 said:
WoW!
Your single picture review has so convinced me!
All the other benchmarks on the interwebs are now proven wrong!!
YaY nVidia!
But wait!!
You forgot to tell him how a water cooled 8800GT will beat SLI 4870's in every game!!11!!!1
O the PWNAGW!
What ever will ATI do?
/sarcasam


SLI 4870s?

Sweet.
August 14, 2008 1:14:00 PM

^LOL
August 14, 2008 1:23:48 PM

^^lol lol lol
August 14, 2008 1:35:13 PM

Didn't you know, you can half your performance by SLI'ing the new Ati cards :) . Or was he just using sarcasm there and mixed up in the sarcasm rant.

Good thing 1 source can make all others false. Keep looking until you find a benchmark that supports what you want to buy and stick with that. Extrapolate other cards to convince yourself you are buying the best.

And what games do you plan to play, if any?
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2008 1:51:35 PM

remremrem said:
thanx for the replies. The only concern is which one will fix the problem from the 9800GX2.
I lose an inch off the screen cause the OS interface is expanded off screen when I use the HD cable not the normal VGA. This only happens when the gfx card driver is installed.


Hmm...Your moniter IS widescreen correct? Also, try your moniters autoadjust to see if that fixes it. My 9800GX2 has some stretching issues on my on widescreen LCD, but a quick stretch of the screen usually fixes that issue.
August 14, 2008 2:21:53 PM

sarwar_r87 said:
crysis is "nvidia product" givin bad performance on ati.....but still lok at this

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/21/0,1425,i=216961,00.jpg
(^look at 1900x1200.....zero scaling on 1440x900 coz noone sane would not get 4870x2 2 game on that small resolution)





4870X2 CFX = 1150$
280 SLI = 820$

who the f*** want to pay 330$$ for 4 FPS extra??
thats 82$/fps! it just doesnt justified the price. like i said 4870X2 is just way way too overpriced.

LOLLL talking about best bang for the money
August 14, 2008 2:26:05 PM

hey concrum everybody knows you are on payroll from nVidia. Stop this bullshets and go away
August 14, 2008 2:29:12 PM

4870x2 = 34.2 fps
280 = 22 fps

420/22 = $19.09/fps
550/34.2 = $16.08/fps

Don't try to be smart when your dumbass
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2008 2:29:43 PM

concrum said:
4870X2 CFX = 1150$
280 SLI = 820$

who the f*** want to pay 330$$ for 4 FPS extra??
thats 82$/fps! it just doesnt justified the price. like i said 4870X2 is just way way too overpriced.

LOLLL talking about best bang for the money


4870x2 = $560
GTX 280 SLI = $820

who the f*** wants to pay $$260 for 2.2 FPS less??
thats $118.19/fps! it just dosent justified the price. like i said GTX 280 sli is way way to overpriced.

LOLLL talking about best bang for the money


/fixed
August 14, 2008 2:30:12 PM

I dont even want to mention what is to play a game on 22fps (especially FPS) and what is playing it at 34.2
August 15, 2008 5:59:05 AM

concrum said:
4870X2 CFX = 1150$
280 SLI = 820$

who the f*** want to pay 330$$ for 4 FPS extra??
thats 82$/fps! it just doesnt justified the price. like i said 4870X2 is just way way too overpriced.

LOLLL talking about best bang for the money


:lol: 
i would wan 2 c who wants to get 4870X2 jus 2 play crysis...noone....n im not promoting CF of 4870x2......but ur da one promoting sli....which give less than 4870x2 performance in YOUR cyrsis........
a b U Graphics card
August 15, 2008 6:46:16 AM

concrum said:
4870X2 CFX = 1150$
280 SLI = 820$

who the f*** want to pay 330$$ for 4 FPS extra??
thats 82$/fps! it just doesnt justified the price. like i said 4870X2 is just way way too overpriced.

LOLLL talking about best bang for the money

You're conveniently forgetting that a SINGLE 4870x2 is wiping the floor with TWO of your beloved GTX280s in SLI. I'd say that tips the price/performance scale solidly in the favor of the 4870x2.

(On a side note, HOLY CRAP!!! Crysis playable cranked on a 30 on a single card )
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