I bought a Kyocera 6035...

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Replies included below...

On 25 Nov 2004 05:10:52 GMT, RonB <ronbNOSPAM@bliz.org> wrote:

>...and am curious if I got the following right.
>
>With this phone I can hook up to the Internet...

With limitations...

>1) Via Sprint's Internet service

And only to Sprint's internal offerings.

>2) Via any ISP using the Palm "side" of the 6035 to connect through the
>phone "side" of the 6035.

It use to work this way, and when they introduced the "Vision" plan,
they no longer offered the pre-existing condition.
Case point: My 1st 6035 developed an uncalibratable screen after
almost a year of use. I had insurance and received a reconditioned
unit (works great by the way), however, when I tried to make my usual
connection to my ISP (using their dial-up number) I was unable to get
a connection. I called SprintPCS and after several "managers" and
about an hour, I got them to admit that the phone they sent me was
programed to not allow "out of network" connections. I closed my
account with SprintPCS and now use my 6035 without cellular service.

>3) Or, with my laptop, using the 6035 as a wireless modem

See above.

>Can I hook another Palm up via the data cable? Sounds stupid, but I'm
>thinking of dowloading news and email, responding to it offline using a
>Palm Portable Keyboard, then uploading. If I don't have a keyboard for
>the Kyocera this really wouldn't work.

As long as the "other" Palm has a true serial port and not a
"universal" messed-up sudo-USB thing, yes... your other Palm will need
a null modem adaptor to talk to the 6035. Be aware that the 6035 (or
any Palm for that mater) does not have a "Ring" signal line and will
not provide in-coming connectivity. Also, there's no "auto-answer"
function in the "Data Fax" application.

>I know I'll need a data cable for the Kyocera 6035. Is there anything
>else I should be looking for?

Other than the null modem adaptor, the 6035 stands real well on it's
own... there's little you can add to it to improve it.
The one piece of software you will want is called "Minute Counter" by
Ric Whitt and is considered to be the best 3rd party Palm/6035
application available.

>Thanks very much for any suggestions or information. (And, meanwhile, I
>will be trying to figure this out on my own also.)
>
>--
>RonB
>"There's a story there...somewhere"

In addition to Minute Counter, you should research the program "Crony"
(a Google search will turn-up good results) and set Crony to do
auto-email using the Eudora mail client on your 6035.
Also, many PQA applications will work on the 6035.

Phil

Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops (More info?)

Heres the good news, if you HAVE already got the phone, it CAN be used on
VERIZON, with a dgree of reprogramming. But it is done quite often. Verizon
and Sprint will say no, but it is fact. I have one I was going to do just
that with it. Just got ahead of it and never did it. Do a Google search.
lots of info on that matter

BTW, BEFORE I get you all excited. New and recent rumour ( and sounds true)
Verizon will no longer activate a phone that is categorized by them as a
SMART phone, unless you add a DATA plan. And they can tell by the ESN.




"RonB" <ronbNOSPAM@bliz.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed 24 Nov 2004 11:06:29p, , wrote:
>
> > Replies included below...
> >
> > On 25 Nov 2004 05:10:52 GMT, RonB <ronbNOSPAM@bliz.org> wrote:
> >
> >>...and am curious if I got the following right.
> >>
> >>With this phone I can hook up to the Internet...
> >
> > With limitations...
>
> Uh, oh.
>
> >>1) Via Sprint's Internet service
> >
> > And only to Sprint's internal offerings.
>
> Which I'm really not that interested in.
>
> >>2) Via any ISP using the Palm "side" of the 6035 to connect through
> >>the phone "side" of the 6035.
> >
> > It use to work this way, and when they introduced the "Vision" plan,
> > they no longer offered the pre-existing condition.
> > Case point: My 1st 6035 developed an uncalibratable screen after
> > almost a year of use. I had insurance and received a reconditioned
> > unit (works great by the way), however, when I tried to make my usual
> > connection to my ISP (using their dial-up number) I was unable to get
> > a connection. I called SprintPCS and after several "managers" and
> > about an hour, I got them to admit that the phone they sent me was
> > programed to not allow "out of network" connections. I closed my
> > account with SprintPCS and now use my 6035 without cellular service.
>
> Your kidding. There's no way to clear that restriction? (I may *not* be
> moving over to the 6035 after all.)
>
> >>3) Or, with my laptop, using the 6035 as a wireless modem
> >
> > See above.
>
> So, in other words, it's not really a wireless modem now?
>
> >>Can I hook another Palm up via the data cable? Sounds stupid, but I'm
> >>thinking of dowloading news and email, responding to it offline using
> >>a Palm Portable Keyboard, then uploading. If I don't have a keyboard
> >>for the Kyocera this really wouldn't work.
> >
> > As long as the "other" Palm has a true serial port and not a
> > "universal" messed-up sudo-USB thing, yes... your other Palm will
> > need a null modem adaptor to talk to the 6035. Be aware that the
> > 6035 (or any Palm for that mater) does not have a "Ring" signal line
> > and will not provide in-coming connectivity. Also, there's no
> > "auto-answer" function in the "Data Fax" application.
>
> I wouldn't try to use it for incoming calls. I was just hoping to use
> the 6035 for downloading email and newsgroups either to my laptop or
> the Palm itself -- and maybe checking news on Yahoo every now and then.
>
> >>I know I'll need a data cable for the Kyocera 6035. Is there anything
> >>else I should be looking for?
> >
> > Other than the null modem adaptor, the 6035 stands real well on it's
> > own... there's little you can add to it to improve it.
> > The one piece of software you will want is called "Minute Counter" by
> > Ric Whitt and is considered to be the best 3rd party Palm/6035
> > application available.
>
> Do they charge an "access fee" for data calls? (Since I read your
> message I've been looking around and it appears there is a per minute
> "tariff" for using the 6035 as a modem.
>
> >>Thanks very much for any suggestions or information. (And, meanwhile,
> >>I will be trying to figure this out on my own also.)
> >>
> >>--
> >>RonB
> >>"There's a story there...somewhere"
> >
> > In addition to Minute Counter, you should research the program
> > "Crony" (a Google search will turn-up good results) and set Crony to
> > do auto-email using the Eudora mail client on your 6035.
> > Also, many PQA applications will work on the 6035.
>
> Thanks. I'm feeling kind of stupid. I should have asked these questions
> *before* buying the phone. So is your 6035 merely a IIIxe now?
>
> Should I have looked at Verizon -- or is it the same deal there?
>
> --
> RonB
> "There's a story there...somewhere"