AMD PII 965 and 955

With a reasonably decent mainboard, could i overclock the pII 965 to 3.8 ghz on sotck voltages or maybe with just a couple more milivolts added to make the overclock stable? i am going to get an ASUS Triton 81 cooler, would someone say because of this, i might as well get a 955 because with air cooling i'm more or less going to be able to overclock them both to the same frequency. But will the PII 965 consume less power overall when it is clocked to it's highest possibility using third party air cooling.

might i suggest another cooler,
sunbeam core contact freezer
coolermaster v8
thermalright ultra 120 extreme
http://vr-zone.com/articles/lga136 [...] l?doc=6237
http://www.frostytech.com/articlev [...] 314&page=4

its been said its as easy to get the 955 to 3.8ghz as it is to get the 965 to 4.0-4.1 this is because when voltage is on auto, the 965 is programmed to accept more voltage than the 955 which is why many say the 965 is an overclocked 955

Isn't it more stable though to manual configure the voltages. Such as would i have to increase it to 1.45 volts or 1.5 volts at 4ghz. This is the 965. So the 965 is actually slightly better at overclocking that the 955. But the extra price isn't that much more justified.

what paste did you use? and what temp does it run at at max load(games)

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

ill eventually overclock my 955 so wanted to get some heads up on paste and cooler for it

personally speaking, my 955 is SUPER HARD to overclock and amd's overclock mainly on cooling or the temperature of the cpu

the highest overclock ive done on mine was 8.2 for half a second

but the highest stable overclock waz 3.8 ; i'd say thats pretty darn good for a cnps9700