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NEW GAMING BUILD BUYING FRIDAY -- HOWS IT LOOK?

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July 25, 2008 6:18:42 AM

for that amount, i'd spend a few extra bucks and get vista ultimate instead of home premium. I have both, and i like ultimate better. It may not be a big thing to you, but I enjoy it better. Also, if you can spring it, get a good battery backup instead of a power strip. BestBuy just had some cyberpower 550VA ones for about 39 bucks.
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July 25, 2008 7:45:09 AM

If I wasbuilding that rig I would use a WD 6400 aaks 640gb HD, add $50.00 to the $200.00 you save from the raptor and up the PSU to OCZ 850w. for crossfire, go with one 4870 instead of 2x4850's(can get second 4870 later)and go to 8 gb's ram with visa. about $50.00 more than current rig. either way you go, good luck,good gaming.
July 25, 2008 8:11:29 AM

1. 4870 is better than 2x4850.
2. to save money I would go a 750Gb Sata2 32Mb.
3. Vista ultimate
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200GB to OS
500GB Rest for games and movies...
hd rip off´s are large ones

July 25, 2008 8:55:20 AM

i never understand buying such massive HD's even with all my music and games on one id struggly to fill my raptor 150Gb!!!

perhaps treyt that a number of smalled HD's in Raid would suit you better.

and have seperate partitions for the really big games and one for your OS only to help with speed.

not sure about money in this case but u can pick up a decent raid controller for around £60 quid and you can get the 74Gb Raptor for around £100

if im not mistaken you can buy a smaller raptor drive aswell!
July 25, 2008 9:23:22 AM

I would get AT LEAST a 22" monitor (1680x1050), if not 24" (1900x1200).

I would also get to WD 640gb (one for Windows, one for games) instead of the Raptor and save $100+.
July 25, 2008 6:58:14 PM

Thanks for all the help guys. I think im going to stay with windows vista 64 bit premium though i just dont need ultimate. I upgraded the PSU and got 8 gigs of ram now. I also switched out the 2 4850's for 1 4870. I really like the 300gb raptor though. What is the benefit of having 2 larger HD's? DO you have to use them in a raid array? I dont really need more than 300 gb to start with.

Heres my new and improved build:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...'s
July 25, 2008 7:14:34 PM

I would never pay money for an OS.. /hint.

And with the money you save, you can get a better monitor!
July 25, 2008 7:19:57 PM

i dont get the /hint haha
July 25, 2008 7:28:54 PM

Paying for an OS is a waste of money. You can get it for much.. much.. cheaper.


BITTORRENT.
July 25, 2008 7:39:22 PM

ah
July 25, 2008 7:52:30 PM

HOW IN TE WORLD are you guys saying a 4870 is better than CF4850's yes he may be able to get another 4870 down the road but right now a CF4850 will WHOOP jsut about everything except a 4870x2
July 25, 2008 8:03:22 PM

licid24 said:
HOW IN TE WORLD are you guys saying a 4870 is better than CF4850's yes he may be able to get another 4870 down the road but right now a CF4850 will WHOOP jsut about everything except a 4870x2


that made me lol "WHOOP"
July 25, 2008 8:42:35 PM

1. Drop the VelociRaptor, unless you ABSOLUTELY need it. It is a waste of money for the little faster load times in games. Get 2*7200.11 drives in RAID.

2. Consider swapping the PSU to a PP&C or a Corsair. I recommend PP&C 610/Corsair 550/650 (no CrossFire) or a PP&C 750/Corsair 750TX (CrossFire). The Antec is fine, but I prefer Corsair and PP&C.

3. Consider dropping the VelociRaptor and spending that money on a better/bigger LCD. The LCD in the list has a max resolution of only 1440x900.

Side note: Get a G5 mouse if gaming. :sol: 

Also since you are running 8GB RAM, you might want to optimize/reduce your page file size.
July 25, 2008 9:03:40 PM

/turn off your pagefile..
July 25, 2008 9:11:39 PM

Ok I'm going to drop the raptor and get 1 wd650 for now and use the money to buy a better monitor.I'll also get the corsair 750tx crossfire PSU. One HD should be fine right? What do u mean optimize/reduce page file size? Thanks!
July 26, 2008 4:55:29 PM

The guy before me was just saying that since you have enough ram (usually 2gb is enough), you can reduce the size of the page file. But I'm telling you to turn it off completely.
July 26, 2008 9:51:48 PM

Why do I need page file optimization?
Optimizing your page file when you're running low on RAM is always a good idea. When all physical RAM in a computer is in use, Windows starts using the hard disk as if it were additional RAM. This is why we have a Pagefile (also called the swap file). Because RAM memory is a lot more faster than the hard disk, whenever the computer begins to use the Pagefile to relieve memory pressure, we begin to experience a drastic performance degradation.

One of the most effective things you can do to improve performance is ensure that there is enough RAM available to avoid frequent paging (swapping) of memory contents between disk and RAM.

This means that the actual limit on the memory used by all applications is the amount of RAM installed plus the maximum size of the Pagefile.


How much swap space do you need?

That depends the amount of RAM you have and the programs you use. The rule of the thumb is 1.5 times the amount of system memory, unless you have too much load on your system.


Can the Virtual Memory be turned off on a really large machine?

Strictly speaking Virtual Memory is always in operation and cannot be ‘turned off’. What is meant by such wording is ‘set the system to use no page file space at all’.

This would waste a lot of the RAM. The reason is that when programs ask for an allocation of Virtual memory space, they may ask for a great deal more than they ever actually bring into use - the total may easily run to hundreds of megabytes. These addresses have to be assigned to somewhere by the system. If there is a page file available, the system can assign them to it - if there is not, they have to be assigned to RAM, locking it out from any actual use.
July 26, 2008 9:52:14 PM

explains pagefile for ya
July 26, 2008 10:06:21 PM

two HD4850's will give a single hd4870 a whoopass. I just looked at your list and you have 3 hd4870's in your list which is weird, cause you can only put two on the board. if you spend a couple of more dollars on ram, you qualify for 20-30 dollars in rebates. And you only need the crossfire solution if your getting a 24" or larger monitor (though its fun to have higher FPS than your monitor can display). for the most part, everything else is covered pretty nice. The only thing I like better in vista ultimate over preimum is the video wallpaper(which you have to download), but thats not worth the cost.








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