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hey guys... guess i have a quick question... I just built this new comp for a buddy and i am having a hard time with the two 4850s.... every time i have both of the cards on the mobo the comp seems to crash before windows even get a chance to log on, that or when i get to windows and try to run a game it crashes.... the mother board i have is gigbyte da-ep45-ds3r/ds3,700W psu,4 gigs of 1066 ram and a q6600 cpu.... I have tried everything i can think of.. installed new drivers for both the card and mobo. updated bios... the only The only thing that seems to work is to take the second card out... when i do that the comp runs like a top... need some help please!

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Well sounds like yout 700 watt must be a generic piece of crap without enough amps for 2 cards. Watts dont mean jack its all about the amps and how clean the power is.

Reply to roadrunner197069

can you suggest a good psu please... I was under the impression that all i needed to worry about was the watt rating. it makes sense though. didn't know they needed a specific amp rating. ill try this and get back to you.

Reply to alexanderbanna

Someone whos a better PSU guru will chime in, and recommend what you need, I never done crossfire or SLI, so I wont chime in on specifics, I just know a generic with low amps doesn't mean jack.

If your in a hurry buy one off of ATIs certified xfire list on their website. It'll most likely run a $100+ unless there is a good deal or MIR goin on.

Reply to roadrunner197069

Corsair 750W, Thermaltake Toughpower 750W.

Reply to Shadowthor

either of Shadowthors suggestions are good, and also look at PC Power and Cooling's 750Watt in addition to those


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Reply to HVdynamo
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Open the case and take a look at the label pasted on the side. Post the values in that little chart. Especially important is 12v rail(s) ampage.

 

There is a chance it may not be psu's fault at all, in which case buying a new one won't help. Make sure it's actually the problem before you go spend money.

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
Reply to dagger

what is an acceptable amp rating for these cards? it does not say anything about a requirement on the ati web page... i will post the info when my buddy calls me with it.

Reply to alexanderbanna
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alexanderbanna wrote :

what is an acceptable amp rating for these cards? it does not say anything about a requirement on the ati web page... i will post the info when my buddy calls me with it.


The official recommended power is 450w and 30 amps total on 12v rail(s) psu for a single 4850.

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
Reply to dagger

too bad you missed the MIR that ended friday. There was a Thermaltake 750W modular for $99 after instant and mail in rebates. I think that could have run 2 4850's no prob, since it had 19 amp rating across each of three rails.

Reply to the last resort

on all the 12 v connections its rated for 18 amps...

Reply to alexanderbanna

alexanderbanna wrote :

on all the 12 v connections its rated for 18 amps...

 

What brand and model is it? Just because it is showing that it has plenty of power, that does not mean it is providing a good/clean steady supply of power. This is what the cheaper or inexpensive PSU's do, they may look good on the outside, and the specs may look good, but on the inside they just don't have what it takes.

Reply to jitpublisher

yeah, that psu should have more than enough power for 2 4850s.

My buddy has that PSU with 2 4850s, Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz, 4GB ddr2-1066, and like six hard drives + watercooling and it powers everything fine.

Reply to helios2052

so then what the hell keeps making this pos crash :P


with one card in, he tryed to add a sound card and the same thing happened it started crashing again.... the only two things that i can think of would be psu or motherboard.... I don't want to suggest going out and buying something new when i am not sure what the problem is....

Reply to alexanderbanna

Retracted


Message edited by doormatderek on 08-18-2008 at 04:09:02 AM
Reply to doormatderek

ya the comp runs fine with one card. in fact i checked operation of both cards to ensure that it was not a bad card.

Reply to alexanderbanna

Try with 1 card at a time and see if one is bad.

NVM

Try giving the ram a little more voltage.

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Message edited by roadrunner197069 on 08-18-2008 at 04:11:25 AM
Reply to roadrunner197069

You overclocking at all?

Reply to doormatderek

have not got to the point where i can over clock.... keeps crashing... everything is at stock settings.



ill try give the ram a bit more juice

Reply to alexanderbanna
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Not bashing u... but if ur pairing a Q6600 with 1066 ram... you probably dont really know what is what. 1066 will allow the q6600 to run @ 5Ghz without overclocking the ram. Should have gone for 800 at the most.

If u post brands etc or even better, LINKS to the products you bought we can help much better. An 'ok' 700w should be enough to get into windows, so im not sure its the PSU. (Just saw the link... psu is fine.) Have u tried using EACH card as a single? One mat be faulty so isolate that.
Have you isolated the pci slots?
Tried one stick of ram only?

------------------------------ Q6600 B3 3.0Ghz @ 1.125v
4850
P5B-D
8Gb 800mhz
Reply to mrmez

went with the faster ram so he could update the cpu if needed... but would the ram speed cause this to happen? i have tryed using each card on it own. no i have not tryed one stick of ram because it runs fine with one card.

Reply to alexanderbanna

roadrunner197069 wrote :



Try giving the ram a little more voltage.



Message edited by roadrunner197069 on 08-18-2008 at 04:30:25 AM
Reply to roadrunner197069

so i upped the voltage and put the cards back in... seemed to work for a little bit but crashed again after logging in a game for about 3 minutes

Reply to alexanderbanna

wheres your voltage now and whats it rated for?

Reply to roadrunner197069

If the voltage doesnt fix it ima say the PSU is a good one to use but is somewhat faulty.

Reply to roadrunner197069

i set the voltage to the manufactures specs... 2.1 volts... still seemed to crash


gigbyte da-ep45-ds3r/ds3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128344

that's the motherboard

Reply to alexanderbanna

http://game.amd.com/us-en/crossfir [...] 0HD%204850 Scroll down to the listing for the HD 4850,
the number of cards column shows which units will support 2 or more cards in Crossfire, you will notice that the OCZ 700W unit is not on the list. Quality of the PS is important as well as the capacity, you will notice that there are 550w units on the list, but they are specific models from particular manufacturers. This list is not complete due to ongoing certification.

 

Noticed a number of posts WRT that mobo requiring a bios update to run stable, check to see what bios it currently has and update it if required.


Message edited by rgsaunders on 08-18-2008 at 05:32:49 AM
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Reply to rgsaunders

yep... i updated all that stuff already. Wish it was something that easy. Guess i can try to uninstall all of it and try again... ill try to put a different kind of ram in when my buddy can stop buy with the pc on tuesday...

Reply to alexanderbanna

After reading this thread yesterday I then poked around the web looking for info about PS requirments. I found several sites that seemed to conflict on their numbers. Here is a link from Anandtech, I tend to trust their work more than others.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc [...] =3372&p=10

With just one VC onboard can you get to the bios? Is everything pertainting to display correctly setup? Also with just one card can you tweak the system with the suggestions already given by the other posters, ie more/ spec mem voltage? Did you ever get to windows and try to enable CF? I see that the latest bios is a F9f.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support [...] uctID=2842

As a suggestion and because there are so many things that might could be the prob try to setup the system with just one card get it running fully and correctly and then to the second card install. One more link - http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3256&p=2

Especially heed the part about enabling CF and removing a second card.

Which video driver are you using?

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