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Free PC: 3000+ w/Raid 0 or P4 3.0 SATA 150?

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July 26, 2008 8:01:19 AM

Guys,
I have the opportunity to pick up a free PC, but I have to choose one of the two available. #1 has an AMD 3000+, 1GB ram, and two 80GB HDD's in a RAID 0 array. #2 has a P4 3.0Ghz, 1Gb ram, and two 80GB HDD's on SATA 150 (no RAID). This PC will mostly be used for word/excel/IE, etc.

Which of these would be best/faster?

Thanks,
July 26, 2008 8:03:38 AM

Forgot to mention: Everything else is equivalent between the two machines (same ram, same video card, etc)
July 26, 2008 8:09:46 AM

i think that P4 will run faster than the AMD. Go with the P4 and raid the hard drives later if you are able. :p 
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July 26, 2008 8:24:43 AM

amd + ati for life
a b B Homebuilt system
July 26, 2008 9:15:52 AM

bugman74 said:
Guys,
I have the opportunity to pick up a free PC, but I have to choose one of the two available. #1 has an AMD 3000+, 1GB ram, and two 80GB HDD's in a RAID 0 array. #2 has a P4 3.0Ghz, 1Gb ram, and two 80GB HDD's on SATA 150 (no RAID). This PC will mostly be used for word/excel/IE, etc.

Which of these would be best/faster?

Thanks,


AMD 3000+ - K7 or K8 based? The P4 with HT will prove to "feel" faster in most apps etc compared to either, the K8 3000+ would be a touch quicker but both are horrid old machines for today's standards.
July 26, 2008 9:26:01 AM

intel then sell it online to someone for a few hundred quid
July 26, 2008 9:29:15 AM

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AMD 3000+ - K7 or K8 based?

It is a K7 (socket A). So the P4 is probably a tad faster?

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both are horrid old machines for today's standards.

Agreed, but this is a "backup" machine for guests when they stay. I dont let anyone touch my main rig (6400+ Windsor, 4Gb, 1Tb, 8800GTX Extreme, 30" samsung, on Vista Ultimate 64).
July 26, 2008 9:33:24 AM

Oh, and if I wasnt clear - the RAID array on the 3000+ is an SATA 150 RAID. So the AMD is getting close to double the read/write times on the HDD's, but the P4 has a touch more horsepower... Hmm.
July 26, 2008 10:00:23 AM

bugman74 said:
Quote:
AMD 3000+ - K7 or K8 based?

It is a K7 (socket A). So the P4 is probably a tad faster?

Quote:
both are horrid old machines for today's standards.

Agreed, but this is a "backup" machine for guests when they stay. I dont let anyone touch my main rig (6400+ Windsor, 4Gb, 1Tb, 8800GTX Extreme, 30" samsung, on Vista Ultimate 64).


SWEET :D  LOL. theres like a sense of possessiveness. :D  Rock on!
a b B Homebuilt system
July 26, 2008 10:22:44 AM

bugman74 said:
Quote:
AMD 3000+ - K7 or K8 based?

It is a K7 (socket A). So the P4 is probably a tad faster?

Quote:
both are horrid old machines for today's standards.

Agreed, but this is a "backup" machine for guests when they stay. I dont let anyone touch my main rig (6400+ Windsor, 4Gb, 1Tb, 8800GTX Extreme, 30" samsung, on Vista Ultimate 64).


The P4 3.0 (assuming its an E or C class - 800mhz FSB, not including the 3.06) its atleast a whole generation infront and that HT does make the system feel a whole lot faster so id take it simply because of HT, and even a P4 2.4C beats the 3200+ socket A AMD in some apps/games so.

July 26, 2008 9:43:27 PM

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The P4 3.0 (assuming its an E or C class - 800mhz FSB

I just checked - it is a C class w/800Mhz FSB.

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even a P4 2.4C beats the 3200+ socket A AMD in some apps/games so

I know the P4 processor is faster, but I am trying to quantify if the SATA 150 RAID 0 array on the AMD would give it an edge since the P4 machine does not have a RAID 0 array (only SATA 150).
a b B Homebuilt system
July 27, 2008 1:40:23 AM

bugman74 said:
Quote:
The P4 3.0 (assuming its an E or C class - 800mhz FSB

I just checked - it is a C class w/800Mhz FSB.

Quote:
even a P4 2.4C beats the 3200+ socket A AMD in some apps/games so

I know the P4 processor is faster, but I am trying to quantify if the SATA 150 RAID 0 array on the AMD would give it an edge since the P4 machine does not have a RAID 0 array (only SATA 150).


Raid 0 Gives improvement in burst/max rates but seek times suffer because of seeks across two drives etc, making it more for server and video editing machines etc, altho i use it in all my machines and will never go back to a single drive :p 
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