Please Help Me

Remove the little round battery on your motherboard for several minutes and reinstall. Your bios password should be erased and all bios settings at default.

Now you should be able to OC from Bios.

Here is the Manual for your MB
http://www.manualnguide.com/dl/9353/

Go to View/Download Page »

VIEW/DOWNLOAD

Go to page 36 (type in box upper left)

My BIOS Says Phoenix.

I Have Downloaded The CMOSCleaner, What Do I Do Next. It Doesn't Have an Installing Application.

Thanks For The Info, Im Quite Young So I Dont Know Alot. What Happens When You Jumper The CMOS and What Is It?

User Guide for CMOS Cleaner:
http://www.pccmos.com/guide.html

It is easy to remove the battery then reinstall with the (+) up.
I know it could be difficult for some with disabilities ( as my son was). In that case get someones help. You supply the info.

If you do use the cleaner, use at your own risk.

I'm 59 and I dont know anything....or having difficulties remembering.... or both.

Yeah, I Downloaded My Motherboard Manual

yup...

I had a quick look at your motherboard manual and also the Asus forum for your board for you.

at first glance it looks very limiting what you can adjust in the bios to up the speed of your chip. However, some seem to be able to on the asus forum but it may require a bios update. you can find out how to do this in your manual.

Others have mentioned a "top performance" mode that you can select in your bios - this may be an option for you other than selecting load default values. Difference between the two would be default is a fail safe mode which should boot without any problems and top performance will set everything to the max rated values/speeds for you automatically. however, if there is a compatibilty issue with a component it may not boot/post which will require going back into the bios and resetting back to default or if you cannot clearing the cmos once again.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.asp [...] uage=en-us


The things above would be te first steps to try. look to see you if you have this top performance mode first, if not then look into updating the bios. remember to follow the instructions exactly in updating bios. Best option for you would be to use Asus' update programme in XP/vista because it will check the bios flash is compatible first.

Also noticed there isn't an option to change the voltage of the vcore (CPU voltage) this will limt overclocking. Not a bad thing if you are unsure what you are doing as there is less chance of you causing harm to your system!

seems like the only real way to go if you want to OC your system is to BSEL mod your CPU. I am not brave enough to do this myself, yet, but also have not had reason to. basically it involveds taking out your CPU and shorting a couple of pins with a silver contact pen. What this does is make the CPU tell the motherboard that it is runs at a different speed i.e. 1066fsb instead of 800fsb. the advantage of this is that there is not need to go into the bios to change anything (or if you cannot at all) and also because the cpu tells the motherboard it has a new/higher stock speed everything else runs at stock i.e. everything else runs at normal speeds - your motherboard just thinks it has a faster cpu installed. this doesn't mean doing this your system will be running stable at a higher speed. other things to consider is additional heat prodcution becasue its running faster and also becasue it is running faster it may require extra voltage to run it stable. but again extra volatge will mean extra heat! apparently you can revert to how it was before by cleaning off the pen.

Have a look at these links first is someone with same board and cpu as yours. second is all about BSEL and VID (voltage) modding:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.asp [...] uage=en-us

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpu [...] guide.html

Have a good read and decide if this is the way to go. if you do, only do the 1066 bsel mod - your board won't support an fsb of 1333. try it and stress test it. if its not stable and the temps are not too high then look into a VID mod to up the CPU's stock voltage too.

Good luck & good reading. Perhaps the more experienced members here can expand more on this subject for you and provide some more info on the possible risks???

What cooler have you got? is it a stock intel cooler? i would strongly suggest getting a decent cooler. at the very least run Prime95 on your system as it is now and check to see what temp you system runs while under load. Google Prime95 and download and also a temp probe such as HW monitor, Real temp or Core temp - all can be downloaded for free.

Once you know your temps at max load compare them to what your max temps are in this sticky:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ture-guide

if you have some head room on your CPU's max temps see if you can do a mild OC in your bios. following this guide:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] uals-guide

JSC mentioned these before so hopfully you've read them - i found them really useful.

its worth looking into what you can do in the bios before bsel mod.

sounds good. i assume that's at idle. google and download prime95 and run it for a for an hour or so and report back max temps. Use Large ffts in Prime.

ok. well you have a small amount of headroom. see your max temps below taken from temp guide sticky.

Scale 2: Duo
E8x00: Tcase Max 74c, Stepping E0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E7x00: Tcase Max 74c, Stepping R0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E7x00: Tcase Max 74c, Stepping M0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E5x00: Tcase Max 74c, Stepping R0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E5200: Tcase Max 74c, Stepping M0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E4700: Tcase Max 73c, Stepping G0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E4x00: Tcase Max 73c, Stepping M0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E2xx0: Tcase Max 73c, Stepping M0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E8600: Tcase Max 72c, Stepping E0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E8xx0: Tcase Max 72c, Stepping C0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E6x50: Tcase Max 72c, Stepping G0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E6540: Tcase Max 72c, Stepping G0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W


-Tcase/Tjunction-
--70--/--75--75-- Hot
--65--/--70--70-- Warm
--60--/--65--65--Safe <--
--25--/--30--30-- Cool

You can see at stock temps you are running in the safe zone on your stock cooler. i can remember posting similar temps on my stock cooler at stock settings. increasing the fsb even slightly might send the temps to max (75c) on a stock cooler. your aim would be to achieve an fsb of 1066 and stay inside 70c at full load and run prime for over 24 hours without any errors or crashes. In prime you need to tick the "round off checking" (think its found in preferences menu). this will report back any calculation errors and if you get any your system is not stable which means backing off on the fsb or increasing the voltage.

Its worth finding out the VID of your CPU. this is the voltage that your cpu runs at by default. identical chips can have different vids and if you have one with a lower VID then you so say have more overclocking headroom becasue it will require less voltage to get to higher speeds = lower temps. You can find out your VID in core temp.

Find out your VID and report back.

then try going into the bios ad increasing the FSB a little at a time - think you start off on 200mhz (fsb of 800) so increase it initially by 5mhz at a time and as/if you get closer to 266 (fsb 1066) use only 1 or 2mhz at a time.
after each increase see if you can load into windows and if so restart and increase a little further. keep going until you cannot boot into windows and then back off a bit. this is where you can start stress testing. load up core temp and then run prime (with round off checking ticked) and run large ffts. watch the temps sore. if you hit 70c stop stress testing and back off your oc. liklihood is that your system will crash (shut off or BSOD) or one of your cores will report back an error. When it does crash (and it will, its ok) note what the max temps were. if they are still within an acceptable level then you can increase the voltage a little. re-test and follow this pattern until you hti max temps and have to back off fsb or find that you can run stable for 24 hours.

let me know how you do.

Ps. be careful and stick within your temps

OK. so if you get into your bios you can now look at manually setting your voltage. to run stable at stock you'll need 1.1875v as this is what intel has rated your chip to run at with stock speeds. you should see in your bios your cpu vocre at a voltage similar to 1.18775v but if you run CPU-z in windows and check the volatge its likely to be lower. This is called vdrop when your system becomes under load it can drop further called vdroop. some bios have something called loadline calibration which gets rid of vdroop when enabled and vdrop just depends on the quality of the board. for example my VID is 1.25v and shows 1.23v in bios. in CPU-Z its between 1.07-1.15v. but by using a manual volatge i set to 1.2625v (just a little over stock) i can get a stable 3.0ghz on my q6600. I have loadline enabled and cpu-z reads my volatge in windows at a constant 1.17v so my temp increase is minor compared to stock speeds (2-3c at idle and 5-7c at load).

find out what cpu-z reads your stock voltage compare the difference between that and your vid when at idle and load to work out your drop and droop. then go into bios and manually set your vcore voltage to your vid (enable loadline if possible) and re-test drop and droop for improvement. once you know the lowest it drops to at load when set to your vid you can (if need be) safely increase you voltage in the bios by that amount. e.g if i set my chip to 1.35v in bios, in CPU-Z it reads 1.25v.

with your initial vid start increasing your fsb (like i explained before). if your temps don't get too high increase your vcore up to the difference in your drop and droop and see if it can stabilze - hopefully you can at a reasonable load temp. if not drop your OC or purchase a new cooler and then you can increase the voltage further. the max for your chip is 1.5v but this would only be used for extreme OC'ing (like 4+ghz on your chip, i guess).

Let me know how you get on.