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July 26, 2008 6:54:22 PM

Hey everyone. New to the forum but my name's Garrett.

I had a question about a system for sale in my area. Here's the specs:

Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ 3.00ghz
3,00GB Ram (DDR2-333)
GForce 8800 GTS 640mb Video Card
300 gig Hard drive
Asus M2N4-SLI Motherboard
LG DVD Burner

Samsung Sync Master 226BW (1680x1050 with 2ms response time, 22" Wide Screen)
Saitek Eclipse Keyboard
Logitech G5 Mouse
Creative Labs Speakers
HP Deskjet 3650 Color Printer
Microsoft 360 Xbox Controller for Windows

Comes with Vista Upgrade, Office 2007 and XP plus a bunch of games

He's asking 1050 CAD. Seems reasonable to me but I wanted to ask the experts :hello: 
Decent system?

Thanks for the help!

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July 26, 2008 7:03:37 PM

Garrett...what a bad ass name

and what kinda ram? ddr2 1333 doesnt exist.... soo..??

and that look like a steal!..how used?
July 26, 2008 7:05:38 PM

u could do a lot better with a 1050 budget on a NEW system
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July 26, 2008 7:08:50 PM

depends on how many games it comes with though hehe. and what PSU is it? what brand / make. the monitor itself is worth like 250 $ the OS and software like 150 $. printer, speakers, controller, mouse, keyboard like 50 $
that means the system hes selling u is valued at 550 $ which would be kind of hard to beat. Altho u could always get system and upgrade graphics card to a 4850 if the PSu is good
July 26, 2008 7:09:52 PM

i think he meant DDR2 667, 333 is the actual speed of the ram. 667 is becuase its DDR.

edit: Bytch beat me to it.
July 26, 2008 7:10:14 PM

haha, thanks. i like my name as well ;-)

not sure about the memory. i can ask and see

it's pretty much always true that you can do better new from parts no? i'm just not sure if i want to go through building another system. i guess i'm just wondering if i was to go with a used system, if this one looks good
July 26, 2008 7:14:20 PM

1050 and no warranty? Hell no. For $1000 you can get a better computer but maybe no monitor or not a 22"

Intel core 2 duo is alot better cpu.
333 ram sucks
88ooGTS is old and sucky
The printer prolly needs ink.
He probably is gonna use the vista and office keys on his new one, which may disable you down the road.
July 26, 2008 7:22:48 PM

1050 no way. You can build a better comp for that price.
July 26, 2008 7:31:49 PM

the seller isn't sure what PSU but he says its around 800w
the system was built last october so it's less than a year old

he says he's switching to an imac so i dont know that he'll use the keys, but ya, can't be sure
a c 84 B Homebuilt system
July 26, 2008 7:32:42 PM

Price out what you would build with $1000.

If the offer is exactly what you want, then the price might be OK, but I bet it is negotiable.

If the machine is not exactly what you want, then you are paying too much.

How strong a vga card do you need?
Do you really want a 24" monitor instead of 22"?
How much of the software will you use. Games are cheap when bought used on e-bay.
Remember, printers are cheap, it is the ink that is expensive.

You will miss out on the satisfaction of building it yourself.
July 26, 2008 7:46:22 PM

i had a system speced out before i saw this ad:

Processor Duo Core E8400
Mobo Gigabyte EP45-DS3R
DIAMOND Radeon HD 4850 512MB
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200
Antec Sonata III 500w
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2

i had it priced to about $775 without monitor/OS
a c 104 B Homebuilt system
July 26, 2008 7:58:05 PM

If you are getting the software licensed + CD's with it it is a good deal.
250 for monitor over 300 in software and over a 100 for other gadgets = less than 400 for the actual Computer.
July 26, 2008 7:58:34 PM

i do already have a monitor/keyboard/mouse/printer etc
and i guess i do have a copy of XP on my current system, so those aren't crucial
July 26, 2008 8:00:21 PM

rolli59 said:
If you are getting the software licensed + CD's with it it is a good deal.
250 for monitor over 300 in software and over a 100 for other gadgets = less than 400 for the actual Computer.


all the software is licensed with keys/boxes
a c 104 B Homebuilt system
July 26, 2008 8:00:42 PM

Then you should build! Saves you the hassle of selling all the extras
July 26, 2008 8:02:55 PM

The system you spec'ed I like better, except for the ps.

Fugben...just my opinion man....lose the ninja on sunglasses look, it makes you look like one of those weird friendless kids, unless you are weird and friendless, then you're spot on. Trust me man, ninjas lost their cool early 90's max.
a c 84 B Homebuilt system
July 26, 2008 8:04:50 PM

Your build has better parts than the offer, you will always be somewhat dissatisfied if you get anything less. Only of the offer was for a BETTER system than budgeted should you consider it.
July 26, 2008 8:13:01 PM

The software might make it worth it though, but I'd go with the 8400 for sure, sooo much faster for gaming !
July 26, 2008 8:23:28 PM

I'd offer him $900 and see if he takes it.
July 26, 2008 8:28:40 PM

rolli59 said:
Then you should build! Saves you the hassle of selling all the extras


well I don't know that i'd have to resell much. ive been interested in the idea of dual monitors for awhile now, so that'd work. only thing i really dont need/want is the printer, but the seller isn't into parting up the package at all since he's getting a mac.

might try the 900 offer, though isn't that a pretty brutal lowball?
July 26, 2008 8:29:28 PM

royalcrown said:
The system you spec'ed I like better, except for the ps.

Fugben...just my opinion man....lose the ninja on sunglasses look, it makes you look like one of those weird friendless kids, unless you are weird and friendless, then you're spot on. Trust me man, ninjas lost their cool early 90's max.


what would you do for a ps?
July 26, 2008 8:30:43 PM

i was thinkign in terms of 1000USD =[

i guess i was wrong, but i was taking the monitor into consideration too
July 26, 2008 8:33:33 PM

Prob a corsair unit, sometimes Antec has flip flopped vendors in the past and then they have gotten a bunch of ones that died, so it makes me wonder is all. Just my 2 cents. Jonnyguru.com has some reviews, or anandtech, and they actually take em apart so you can get an idea of what the quality is before you buy.
July 26, 2008 8:35:44 PM

eklipz330 said:
i was thinkign in terms of 1000USD =[

i guess i was wrong, but i was taking the monitor into consideration too


CAD and USD are pretty much the same these days

July 26, 2008 8:36:19 PM

I would say it depends on the games and if you like them. How full are the ink carts?

You could get a much better system new for that price but it wont come with the games or the printer. I just went to Sams Club and they had an HP system with a Quad core Q6600 cpu and a really nice 24" wide monitor for about $960. You could get a printer for the difference but you wont have all of the software or games he is offering.

So just ask yourself... Do I really like the games and software he is offering?

Is the printer , games and extras he has worth the performance difference ?


my 2cents
July 26, 2008 8:50:19 PM

here's the software package: pretty extensive

Windows Vista Upgrade
Microsoft Office 2007 (student version)
Windows XP OEM

Crysis
Bio Shock
Call of Duty 4
BF2
Command and Conquer 3
Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends
Madden 07
NHL 06
BF 2142
Unreal Tournament 2004
Dawn of War
Starcraft

not sure if the games really matter to me that much. i don't play games all that much anymore, tho i'm sure i'd mess around with him if i owned em

decisions decisions...
July 26, 2008 8:52:08 PM

royalcrown said:
The system you spec'ed I like better, except for the ps.

Fugben...just my opinion man....lose the ninja on sunglasses look, it makes you look like one of those weird friendless kids, unless you are weird and friendless, then you're spot on. Trust me man, ninjas lost their cool early 90's max.



but i am weird and friendless...... :pt1cable: 
July 26, 2008 8:53:47 PM

offer him 900 CAD for the whole thing. If he takes it then its a great offer if not then build a system ureself
July 26, 2008 8:58:45 PM

it's not a bad deal at all, and you could give me that copy of bioshock for that cool currency conversion info ;) ...hehe

Fugben, cool, it wasn't a flame man, just my 2 cents ! I'd tell my kid the same thing...
July 26, 2008 9:00:46 PM

Do u not notice the irony of the exit sign with a man running away pointing at my head!!!
July 26, 2008 9:00:56 PM

royalcrown said:
it's not a bad deal at all, and you could give me that copy of bioshock for that cool currency conversion info ;) ...hehe


haha, we'll see what happens :) 

i think i'll shoot him an offer and see where that goes

thanks for the advice so far everyone. i think im gonna like this forum :hello: 
July 26, 2008 9:03:26 PM

fugben said:
Do u not notice the irony of the exit sign with a man running away pointing at my head!!!



no because on my total "old man, krusty flamebait" 17 inch crt, it's really hard to read..

...now all you can make fun of my monitor ;) 
July 26, 2008 9:06:20 PM

hey, i still sleep with my old 17 inch CRT monitor.. too many good memories
a c 84 B Homebuilt system
July 27, 2008 12:04:01 AM

Negotiating 101:
Be prepared to walk away from the deal.
Offer $600.
Hope to end up splitting the difference to $800.

July 27, 2008 4:53:20 AM

What do you plan on doing after you get it and it has random bluescreens and other issues? I bet you wont get a refund.

No one sells "GOOD" used systems period.

If it sounds to ood to be true, then it is.

I dont care if you get $10000 worth of software, the computer is still junk compared to the one you specced out.

If you want software, check Ebay or that other BAY that pirates use. Whats it called again????????? PUN!!!!
July 28, 2008 10:14:02 PM

i decided just to build one from scratch. more fun anyways
thanks for the input
!