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Buying my system today and just need some re-assurance.

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July 28, 2008 6:10:18 AM

Hi All, I am going to buy my system today after work and I would like your input to minimize my buyers remorse. =P

Bear in mind I am building on a budget of $1,000 CAD.

Motherboard
Asus P5Q-E Socket 775 Intel P45 + ICH10R Chipset Dual-Channel DDR2 1200/1066/800/667MHz Dual Gigabit LAN 8-channel High Definition Audio 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 Slots 8x SATA 3Gb/s

CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Socket LGA775, 3.16 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache, 45nm (Retail Box) (BX80570E8500 )

Videocard/GPU

Sapphire ATI RADEON HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 Dual Dual-Link DVI HD Audio Shader Model 4.1 800 stream processor PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card

RAM

Corsair XMS2 Dominator TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF Matched Pairs 4GB Kit (2x2GB) PC8500 DDR2-1066 CL 5-5-5-15 240-pin Dual Channel DHX Memory w/ Fan

Case

NZXT LEXA Blackline ATX Case Red No PS Temp Display Window Front USB & Audio (LEXA-BLACKLINE). This choice concerns me a little bit if I decide to crossfire down the road as the HD4850s run a bit hot. But it should be fine for a single GPU I think. Thoughts?

Powersupply
OCZ Modstream 450W. I am actually cannibalizing this part from my old machine. I am concerned that it may be insufficient for the components I chose, your input here would be appreciated.

Hard Drive
Also being cannibalized from an old machine. I believe its a 150GB Sata HD.

Any input/comments would be appreciated.

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July 28, 2008 6:35:34 AM

Motherboard looks good but save your self some $$ on the CPU and RAM. Get a E8400 and 4Gb of DDR2 800 with 4-4-4-x timings.

The E8400 can easily and safely overclock to 3.6Ghz for a free performance boost over the more expensive E8500.

Unless you plan on even more massive overclocks, you will have the exact same access time from C4 DDR2 800 as C5 DDR2 1066. The only benefit you will have from DDR2 1066 is the ability to reliably overclock past 450Mhz FSB.

With the $$ you save on the above, defiantly get a better PSU. A high end unit like this Corsair 650TX should treat you nicely.


Edit:

Just saw that you are in Canada so you will probably have a hard time buying from newegg....
In that case, keep your eyes open for a high quality PSU of at least 500W. Brands like Corsair, PCP&C, Enermax, Silverstone and the Antec Earthwatts line are some of the better ones.
July 28, 2008 6:37:33 AM

Good choices, Asus seems to have done a good job with the P45 boards. The OCZ modstream is rated lower then their Gamestream and their Stealthstream series. It fits the recommended requirements for the HD4850 (450w), but with it's age it could be a weak link. If your budget can include an upgraded PSU, it would be something i'd add.
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July 28, 2008 2:24:07 PM

Thanks for the input so far. Just to clarify, the PSU is about 1 year old, but I am seriously considering upgrading it, perhaps so that I may be able Crossfire down the road.

And I will definitely look at getting cheaper ram. Thanks.
July 28, 2008 2:42:59 PM

If you buy from NCIX, today or tomorrow, try adding &promoid=1015 to every URL, you might save some money.

For example:
750TX, without promoid, $105
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26415&vpn=CMPSU-750TX&manufacture=CORSAIR

with promoid, $93
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26415&vpn=CMPSU-750TX&manufacture=CORSAIR&promoid=1015

OK, you don't really need a 750W PSU. You could get the 650TX and still be able to do Crossfire.

650TX, $75
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26414&vpn=CMPSU-650TX&manufacture=CORSAIR

Another example:
WD6400AAKS disk, $100 without the promoid, $80 with it:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30004&vpn=WD6400AAKS&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD&promoid=1015

BTW, these promoid codes are sent for free, all you need is register and check some checkbox. They send one or two every month, and they're usually valid for a few days.

RAM: - the promoid saves you $30
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=28269&vpn=996593&manufacture=MUSHKIN&promoid=1015, $75
Mushkin XP PC2-8000 Redline 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit

P5Q-E: the promoid saves you $14
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30299&vpn=P5Q-E&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1015

I picked that RAM because it's mentioned in a customer review for the P5Q-E, it worked fine for that guy. The price is very hard to beat too.

July 28, 2008 2:43:34 PM

As I suggest to many fellow canadians who do not have access to NewEgg, check www.shopbot.ca for your prices. I was able to save 100-200$ when I bought my rig.

As outlw6669 suggested, get the E8400, better cost/performance, get regular DDR2, Dominator is overpriced. The PSU might be OK since OCZ is a good brand, but it might be a close call. Otherwise, you might want to consider the 4870 video card (dual-slot cooling + better performance).
July 28, 2008 3:10:35 PM

I'd go with the E8400 and DDR2-800 as well and put the saved towards a better PSU for sure. PSU = most important part of your computer!

Also, as Zenthar said, use the product # from items on NCIX you want to search on Shopbot.ca. Then, use whoever has the lowest price to Price Match at NCIX. He's right, you can easily save $100-$200 by Price Matching!

Also as an FYI, Newegg.ca is alive ;)  Rumoured ETA isn't until the end of this year though, but should be interesting!
July 28, 2008 5:13:51 PM

Yikes. Tons of food for thought. Thanks for the replies. It looks like the E8400 is the way to go, so Im seriously going to consider switching. My only concern is whether or not my current case will offer sufficient cooling for both an overclocked CPU and dual GPU's (Should I choose to do that down the road).

Aevm, Ill probably look into that Tempest you suggested. Guess Ive got another night of research before I can buy this system -_-.

But thanks all! =D
July 28, 2008 9:12:40 PM

This probably isn't much help, but newegg canada (www.newegg.ca) will be up soon... Sometime this year ;p

If you want to wait, you can.
July 28, 2008 9:26:19 PM

+ 1 for the mushkin redline ram
+ 1 for the e8400 no point in paying that surplus for a slightly faster processor when you can match or exceed that speed for free

that should save you enough for th 650 watt psu which should be enough for you to add a second crossfire card down the line. and as far as cases goes that case has a side panel exhaust which is right where the 4850 spews out its heat so it shouldn't be to much of an issue, just make sure that fan is for exhaust not intake
!