Hey,
I've been thinking about this for months now but I'm just getting around to it. I'm really wondering now why when Opteron 1P chips have always OCd MUCH higher than Athlon chips and they are all over Newegg has no one done one review of it. It's bad enough that very few sites actually benchmark OCd Phenoms, but how can review sites just skip the choice of Budapest.

I remember Opteron 180 being the best OCer from AMD. I would think that a 75W quad at 2.1GHz should clock to around 2.7GHz, maybe even 3GHz.

oh that
i thought you meant the country.

Yea, I wish that they would review them as well. I built a system for a friend built on the 180 and we were able to high 2.8ghz pretty easily. He has been runnin it for quite a while now and its still rock solid with now issues.

Hopefully they will make another jem like the 180 with the server version of shanghi. I am planning on building a 2nd system based on shanghi once it releases if I can find the extra funds. Just for kicks and to be able to make personal comparisons.

I remember buying the Xeon 3040 in hopes that it would be similar to the OC'ing that the 180 had, but alas...it did not. It took me 1.4625v to stabilize it @ 2.8ghz, which granted was a good OC, but that was the max OC when the Core 2 6300's (desktop equivalent) were hitting 3+ghz with less voltage and heat...I wasnt to happy with the 3040 results and thus switched to the 6420. lol

Best,

3Ball

unfortunately it seems the sites stick with the popular choices for gaming CPU's these days and Intel seems to be the top these days. and i am not surprised that Phenom's are not mentioned sense they couldn't recover from there buggy CPU mess when they first came out

That's BS. Intel had to recall C2D. Phenom\Barcelona are faster than Athlon. And when AMD was eating Intel's lunch, every site still reviewed HeatBurst, so what's the difference?

Really? When did this happen? I remember something about some microcode update being needed for certain systems, but never a recall, and I've had a Core 2 (E6600) when they first released, with no recall.

So, what recall are you talking about?

Proof?

none

I had one of the very first C2Ds, and when I say very first, I mean very first. Only because the AMD X25000s were going for $550 while the E6600 I am still using was $359. There were no recalls. You are pulling BS out of your arse, yet again. If not, then ante up the link. Once more you try to boost the reputation of your 'precious' by denigrating the competition. Pathetic

Oh, you can skip any BS links from inq amdzone or fud

I think he was referring to some delay in the C2D launch that I seem to vaguely remember, atleast that is all I can think of.

If I remember correctly, Budapest is a city in Hungary, not a country.

No, I think he was refering to an microcode update MS released for certain C2Ds, as reported by the inq.

Ah yes I had totally forgotten about that one, good thinking turpit.

I recall benches being evenly done in those days as well, not like today tho. I agree, we need more benches on AMD cpus than were currently getting, but it was even back in the K8 days, tho maybe it should have majorly favored K8 benches like we see today with Intel since the C2D?

Yea there was no recall. But AMD did recal their Opteron based K10 chips from the places that the TLB bug would have effected them.

Yes every site reviewd Netburst chips. Thats what they do. They get a chip and they test it.

If I remember back in the Athlon X2 days the systems were running Athlon X2s when it came to testing GPUs and the such.

As for the Opterons, I have yet to see any sites test them. And I don't think they will because very few people even use K10 based Opterons in a desktop enviroment. That and the fact that they are on a different socket than Phenom.

As for AMD CPU benches, how many do you want? I see one with every new CPU AMD throws out or at least every CPU AMD sends out to the sites. Ya think it could be AMD not delivering ES chips?

I'm sorry you were offended by my saying that both Intel and AMD have supply, manufacture and very rarely process problems. I guess what you could call it was a respin. I guess if they were AMD suffering with the lower prices mentioned they may have had a Barcelona - which, btw, is overhyped nonsense.

Anyway it wasn't to say Intel sucks, it was to say that stuff happens with complex designs.

And wow, you actually told me not