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My ATi Radeon 4870 3d Mark Results seem very low?

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August 20, 2008 8:17:14 PM

I recently upgraded my video card to the Ati 4870 and i think that my scores are very bad in 3d mark. Can someone put my mind at rest or is my CPU and Ram at bottleneck point. Ive tried bench marks on both 32 and 64bit versions of vista results are below;

Amd 6000 X2 6000
4gig Ram
Ati Radeon 4870
Windows Vista 64

1) Vista 64 - Ati Drivers 8.7 Graphics Quality - Quality

3D Mark 06 - Default Settings 9623
http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=A93CEE956FDAAC5C0C85A1B078E3FCC5

3d Mark Vantage - Default P5461
CPU Score 3831
Graphics Score 6363

2) Vista 32 - Ati Drivers 8.6 Graphics Quality - Quality

3D Mark 06 - Default Settings 10326

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=A653F6A7AF630AE348B3CB9D35FF9E80

3d Mark Vantage - Default P5595
CPU Score 4140
Graphics Score 6338

August 20, 2008 8:31:28 PM

irishbloke said:
I recently upgraded my video card to the Ati 4870 and i think that my scores are very bad in 3d mark. Can someone put my mind at rest or is my CPU and Ram at bottleneck point. Ive tried bench marks on both 32 and 64bit versions of vista results are below;

Amd 6000 X2 6000
4gig Ram
Ati Radeon 4870
Windows Vista 64

1) Vista 64 - Ati Drivers 8.7 Graphics Quality - Quality

3D Mark 06 - Default Settings 9623
http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=A93CEE956FDAAC5C0C85A1B078E3FCC5

3d Mark Vantage - Default P5461
CPU Score 3831
Graphics Score 6363

2) Vista 32 - Ati Drivers 8.6 Graphics Quality - Quality

3D Mark 06 - Default Settings 10326

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=A653F6A7AF630AE348B3CB9D35FF9E80

3d Mark Vantage - Default P5595
CPU Score 4140
Graphics Score 6338


can you play the games you want to? if so, what is the point of benchmarks seeing as how they are completely arbitrary...
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August 20, 2008 8:36:23 PM

you should change graphics quality to use application settings instead of quality in CCC, i think thats why you get low score. i get about 7500 with my hd 4870 @ 790/1100 and a e6600 @ 3.5ghz, and maybe i could even get more if i had a pci-e 2.0 compatible motherboard but i have only pci-e 16x.....
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August 20, 2008 9:14:35 PM

irishbloke said:
I recently upgraded my video card to the Ati 4870 and i think that my scores are very bad in 3d mark. Can someone put my mind at rest or is my CPU and Ram at bottleneck point. Ive tried bench marks on both 32 and 64bit versions of vista results are below;

Amd 6000 X2 6000
4gig Ram
Ati Radeon 4870
Windows Vista 64

1) Vista 64 - Ati Drivers 8.7 Graphics Quality - Quality

3D Mark 06 - Default Settings 9623
http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=A93CEE956FDAAC5C0C85A1B078E3FCC5

3d Mark Vantage - Default P5461
CPU Score 3831
Graphics Score 6363

2) Vista 32 - Ati Drivers 8.6 Graphics Quality - Quality

3D Mark 06 - Default Settings 10326

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=A653F6A7AF630AE348B3CB9D35FF9E80

3d Mark Vantage - Default P5595
CPU Score 4140
Graphics Score 6338


that's too low, something is not right. Make sure you are running in Line Width x16. You can see it in the CPU-Z tool in the Motherboard tab.

I'm using the Balanced ccc settings. I achieved this scores without OC the GPU

3D Mark 2006 14500
3D Mark Vantage 8200 GPU points
August 20, 2008 9:24:02 PM

check your bois. You probably have settings incorrect in there - for example I found in mine cpu <-> mcp55 HT Speed was set to 1x - I changed it to 5x and it improved my fps. There are many settings in the bois which are sometimes set incorrectly by default.

Also, maybe your bois needs to be updated.

Alot of performance can be lost or gained by the settings in the bois.
August 20, 2008 9:28:02 PM

^ +1 also what PSU are you using? It could be that the card is not getting enough juice and is throttling down. Also make sure that v-sync is off before you run 3Dmark06. I accidentally left it on once and it dropped my score down from 12590 to 11-something.

I get 12590 at default settings in 3Dmark 06 with this rig:
E4300 @ 3Ghz
HD4870 @ stock
P35 mobo (aka PCI-e 1.0 x16)
4Gb DDR2 800
August 20, 2008 9:47:39 PM

Your scores do seem quite low. I have a Phenom 9850 BE Oc'd to 2.9 with 4gigs of kingston hyper x memory along with 2 hd3870's in crossfire. Hard drives are two WD raptors. one 150 gig and one 75 gig. I consistently get 15k or above in 3dmark06. Your 4870 alone is more powerful than those 2 cards in crossfire, so i would start investigating your system to find the culprit.
BTW. I do keep the cards Oc'd at 830 core 1170 mem. this does help quite a bit.
August 20, 2008 9:48:25 PM

another note. I am running vista home premium 32 bit
August 20, 2008 10:14:28 PM

Your scores are definately low, i had to RMA my first 4870 because it was only running x1. I figured that out by putting my old 8800 gts in the mb and it ran @ x16. RMA'd, got new card and evthing runs great. 3d mark 06 is 16241 with one card overclocked to 780 / 1090

http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?c...


You can see how many lanes your card is running on by using gpu-z or cpu-z

Hope that helps
August 20, 2008 10:18:50 PM

joetheone said:
^ +1 also what PSU are you using? It could be that the card is not getting enough juice and is throttling down. Also make sure that v-sync is off before you run 3Dmark06. I accidentally left it on once and it dropped my score down from 12590 to 11-something.

I get 12590 at default settings in 3Dmark 06 with this rig:
E4300 @ 3Ghz
HD4870 @ stock
P35 mobo (aka PCI-e 1.0 x16)
4Gb DDR2 800


ive a 620 Watt PSU Cosair.
i havnt seen any messages about any power warnings though.

Would a clean install of widows help? As i just installed the Nvida card drivers i had prevous and rebooted and isntalled card and then drivers. I used driver cleaner i think. I REALLY dont want to do this as i have 2 operation systems installed atm and a reinstall would be a right pain.


CPU-Z says Line width is 16x
August 20, 2008 10:20:26 PM

The CPU is to small, intels core 2 duo is a far better processor
My past system was a amd x2 4800 2.4 ghz and i upgraded to a q6600 and my frames went throught the roof.
My system was 4800 x2, 8800 gts 320mb, 2 gbs ddr ram
3dmark06 8,000 pts
My new system q6600, 8800 gts 320mb, 2gbs ddr2 ram
3dmark06 12,000 pts

CSC,farcry,oblivion, cod2,crysis,coh all seen monster frame rate increases (30-100) frames depending on the game and medium to max detail at 1680X1050 resolution

both cpus were at stock clocks
August 20, 2008 10:52:34 PM

Your fine. Your CPU is a huge bottle neck. I just built a rig for a customer:
e7300 3.6
4850 stock
4G ddr2 800

12053 3dmark 06 If I had a slow AMD the score would be under 10k easy.
August 20, 2008 11:17:33 PM

^+1

amd's 2 cores are blow out of the water by intel's core 2 duos
August 21, 2008 12:33:52 AM

New Benchmarks i did in vista 64 give better results witht he balanced setting but still not great;


3D mark 06 - Default - Balanced 11280

3d Mark Vantage - Default P6518 - Balanced
CPU Score 4483
Graphics Score 7681
August 21, 2008 12:35:51 AM

Well if your setup plays your games fine dont upgrade.

If you want the best bench scores go Intel.
August 21, 2008 1:06:48 AM

roadrunner197069 said:
Well if your setup plays your games fine dont upgrade.

If you want the best bench scores go Intel.


I was a bit disapointed in the way Crysis's performance didnt seem to be as much better as i had hoped but i can live with it i have to really cant afford an upgrade atm maybe in a few months.

Thanks for all your help folks.
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