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November 3, 2008 1:56:29 PM

First of all here's my current set up...

Windows XP Pro 32 Bit
ASROCK Penryn 1600 SLI MB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Q6600 Intel Quad Core 2.4GHZ CPU (Oc'ed to 3GHz w/o voltage change and perfectly stable for last 6 months)
CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) (only shows 3GB on xp pro 32 bit) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Western Digital 150GB 10,000RPM RaptorX SATA HD (master)
Western Digital 500GB 7200RPM SATA HD (slave)
MSI Nvidia 7900 GTO 512MB DDR3 Video Card
MSI Nvidia 7900 GS 512 MB DDR3 Video Card
Acer AL2223W 22" monitors (I have 4 of them)
Antec 550 Watt PS (can't remember exactly which one but I paid $100 for it)

I recently got XP Pro 64 bit from a friend and am about to upgrade my OS. I thought about going to a 64 bit version of Vista but because frankly I'm scarred of it and my system works pretty well now with a few lags here and there when I'm running everything.

I know upgrading to a 64 bit OS will make the extra 1GB of RAM usable and that should help with the performance of my system (which is good right now anyway).

So here are my questions...

1) Will adding another 4GB ram will make a difference? It will be the same type of ram as above. I've heard that it will help with high end programs that are memory hungry and for gaming but not for typical business applications. I'm not much of a gamer but I am a day trader and the programs I use pretty resource heavy. Below is a link to a screen shot of my task manager with the typical programs I use during the trading day...

http://www.theforextruth.com/extra-page

2) Should I upgrade to Vista 64 and get the extra RAM?

3) Should I leave everything alone and be happy with a well performing system and stop being greedy...lol


Any thoughts on this are greatly appreciated. Thanks for your input...EWB

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November 3, 2008 2:10:26 PM

Vista 64 bit is better then XP64, currently I'm using Vista Ultimate 64 bit and running my games on it just fine.
TF2
HL2
BF2
Insurgency
DOD Source
CS Source
Combat Arms
BF2 Point of Existence
BF2 Project Reality
and Whatever 32 and 64 bit apps I like and can get my hands on, I have no probems running them on 64 bit Vista

November 3, 2008 2:27:22 PM

I really don't think it's going to make any noticeable difference for you. On the other hand it's cheap.
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November 3, 2008 2:47:15 PM

Check out this article.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2 [...] y-better/1

I have often debated these things as well. I have XP x64 and have no problems running it. I don't really want to purchase Vista, but am excited about what I hear of Windows 7.
November 3, 2008 3:04:04 PM

EWB

Go 8 gigs and vista 64. Changes in performance won't blow your mind but vista will preload ram based on your usage habits making an overall smoother experience. At least it has for me. Vista 64 is a ram hog and it's a good thing. Beside with ram prices where they are, why not try it out.

Having said all of that, if you can afford a gtx280 or a 4870 1gig, that will make a difference that will blow your mind.

Good luck
November 3, 2008 3:10:20 PM

Well if your not afriad to get under the hood so to say look up vlite and hit there forums. I think its www.vlite.net if not just google it. Anways I used vlite on my vista x64 and it removed much of the bloat. Then i tweaked it futher with some service tweaks based on safe settings. finally i installed a 30 day trial of vista manager 1.5.8 for 64 bit systems to tweak it even more. runs like a dream and i also have many vms installed and i've ran a max of 8 at a time with no slow downs. one is email server, sql server, http server, dns server and others. quite nice.
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November 3, 2008 3:27:24 PM

huron said:
Check out this article.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2 [...] y-better/1

I have often debated these things as well. I have XP x64 and have no problems running it. I don't really want to purchase Vista, but am excited about what I hear of Windows 7.


Your link is broken. I'm guessing you meant this article:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/07/08/is-more-memory-better/5

@OP:
The screenshot shows you were using less than 1GB of RAM. If you want to add 4 more for a total of 8 GB go ahead, it's only $50 or so these days. I don't think you need it though.

You may want to consider a WD6400AAKS disk. It's a lot faster than your 500GB disk and will beat even the Raptor X in some benchmarks.

If you follow am71's advice and replace one of the video cards with an HD 4870 1GB, replace the other one with a HD 3450 too. That way you only need to install ATI drivers and life is a lot better than when mixing ATI and nVidia drivers.
Between GTX 280 and HD 4870 1GB, the GTX 280 costs $415 at newegg now and gets 35.8 fps in Crysis, while the HD 4870 1GB costs $300 and gets 33.3 fps. A bit of a no-brainer IMO. The GTX 280 needs to drop to $320 to be competitive IMO.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3415&p=4
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November 3, 2008 3:33:39 PM

If you use an application that is coded to use more than 4gb, then 8gb will be good. If you regularly are multitasking a number of active jobs, then 8gb is good. If you mostly do things one at a time, then 4gb is all you need.
Vista-64 is good because it is stable, and can make use of all the ram you give it. The extra ram will be cheap.
November 3, 2008 3:58:51 PM

Thank you all for your replies. If I were to go with Vista 64 instead of xp 64 which version of vista would be best...home premium or ultimate?
November 3, 2008 4:03:18 PM

Get home premium - Not many people use the extra features in Ultimate. You'll save some money that way too.
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November 3, 2008 4:40:17 PM

Dude, if the screen shot shows you using one gig of ram (sorry, I didn't click on the link) 8GBs isn't going to do $h!7 for you. Ram might be cheap, but that $50 could be better spent on quieter fans, or faster harddrives, or a new keyboard/mouse, etc. Spend your money for what you need, not just so you have it.
November 3, 2008 5:11:14 PM

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. An upgrade in GPUs makes more sense.
November 3, 2008 5:38:53 PM

Thanks again everyone. I think for now I'm going to install xp pro 64 as a 2nd OS and see how it performs (make sure all my drives and hardware are compatible) before buying anything else.

Have any of you installed a 2nd OS in a separate partition before? This is new to me but it's worth a try. Can you guys point me to a thread that covers that?

Thanks again...EWB
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