9800GTX+ or HD4850

I'd say that the 4850 is more futureproof than the 9800 GTX+ . And it costs less too.

Apperently the 4850 runs games with AA better thant he 9800 GTX, but it also runs hotter since its single slot! So i think it will make more noise, since you'll crank up the fan to make it run cooler.

i don't think you can go wrong either way actually

okay, keep in mind though the HD 4850 will have MSI's aftermarket cooling on it, which based on the reviews, seems to get it pretty cool without producing much noise. furthermore the price difference is minimal after rebates. i just can't decide; some benchmarks have the 9800GTX+ outperforming the HD4850 while others have it vice-versa
i'm sure i'll be able to crank out a few MHz out of the 4850 since it has a pretty nice cooler on it as does the GTX+...decisions decisions

i will get the 9800GTX+ as it runs cooler in general compare to HD4850. but eroc said if it has aftermarket cooling then this may change or equals out. the 9800GTX+ can OC higher though.

but both card is good card at a good price.

4850 for DX10.1

The GTX doesnt oc higher. Not from what Ive seen.

I would get the 9800 GTX+ just to put more money into Nvidia's pocket so that we can expect the 280 GTX+s in Fall   LOL! 

lol, they've made enough money

btw, i will be playing at 1680x1050
thanks for everyone's input so far

$o$.........MONEY!!!!

both card will do well at that resolution. but with that MSI cooler i do actually think the 4850 might be better.

9800 GTX+ because the cooler looks better. It is better but i believe in aesthetics too. ; )

I don't know, I guess it would depend on the the games you are playing.

i mean i know people are recommending the HD4850 because it's slightly cheaper than the GTX+ but if price were equal would you recommend the gtx+?

Itd depend on which games I play, and how long itd be before I upgrade again. Longer term, the 4850, games, like I said, itd just depend on which ones

think i'm gonna get the 4850 seems like i can't go wrong with that especially with the aftermarket cooler  

for the 4850, we can expect a 20% or so increase from dx 10.1 (although we don't kno if thats really true or not for all games)

but atleast its something that will benefit the future, compared to the 9800 GTX+ which will pretty much stay where it is now 

Not only that, but the driver updates I would think , tend to favor the 4850 over time, as the GTX is an older card

thanks for everyone's contribution
ati welcome to the family, lol

I have the HD4850 in crossfire and use the HMDI with Audio which is a great option and I love the cards. If you have a SLI board get the 9800gtx to give you the option for SLI later on. If its a intel based board with crossfire option then do the HD4850. You cant go wrong with either one. Its a toss up

4850 all the way.

At 1680x1050 you'll be able to max the eye candy on nearly every game out there.

Actually its not a sli or CrossX board.... from the motherboard he described. Its a single PCI-E 16X slot...


http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/BIOS_Mod...

Not a fanboy but i did pick this up because it is cheap(visiontek 4850) . even now newegg has a $20 rebate ont the his version of this card. after rebate it is $154.99 free shipping as well. now thats a good deal. they are pretty much reference cards so theres not much of a difference in specs. as far as performance its a toss up. but i'drather have dx10.1 than not. ive got mine down to 48C with the fan fix at idle. full load 60C. i dont think youd go wrong getting this card but the choice is up to you. besides by the time any dx10.1 games come along it'll be time to upgrade again. lol. good luck

he's right on with the motherboard and since that's the case even if i wanted to i wouldn't be able to SLI or XFIRE the cards without a new motherboard

all of the cards stated are awesome, just that the 4850 has more potential than the 9800 GTX+. personally to play it safe I would put down a little more and get 4870   but thats me, hahah.

You? A 4870 may satisfy you.... for a HTPC heheh

LOL!

HD4850 it has more eyecandy...hehehehe plus the HD thing in the beginning...looks futuristic...

I had the same question recently...

I love my 4850 though and wouldn't trade it.

glad to hear it!

on a side note anyone with vista x64 and the 4850 running into issues?

i'll be ordering it tomorrow and hopefully have it by monday!

I've read in some other forums about people with vista using the 4850, didn't ask if it was 64bit though ><

32bit/64bit isnt that important to a graphics card. i think you should worry about application compatibility.

The 4850 is widely considered to be more powerful card than the 9800GTX+, usually in the range of around 5-10% or so; a bit more if AA is enabled, because the 4800s suffer very little when its enabled, even at incredibly high resolutions, whereas GeForce 8 and 9 cards have a habit of outright tanking at very high resolutions when AA is enabled.

Given what I've seen in benchmarks such as for Crysis, where the 4850 bests the 9800 GTX+ by a 39-46% margin with AA enabled, (increasing as resolution goes up) seems to suggest that the 4850 is also more future-proof than the older G92 cores, given that it shows it taking less of a hit to the framerate as almost anything is increased.

Is There A way to cannect these 2 cards together??