cpu voltage: 1.425v
Cpu temp Max load: 77c (prime 95)
Readings are from
Asus TurboV
Real Temp 3.0
@ sanni786,
Nice rig, however, the most efficient overclock configurations are achieved through 100% manual settings, which is a learning curve that requires a considerable amount of time and patience, but is well worth the effort and knowledge gained. Also, you should be aware that your core voltage and temperatures exceed Intel's specifications. From Intel's Processor Spec Finder - http://processorfinder.intel.com/L [...] SearchKey=
Vcore Max 1.375v
Tcase Max (CPU temperature) 68c
Tjunction (Core temperature) 73c
Core i and Core 2 processors have 2 different types of temperature sensors; a CPU case (not computer case) Thermal Diode centered under the Cores, and Digital Thermal Sensors located on each Core. The case Thermal Diode measures Tcase (Temperature case), which is CPU temperature, and the Digital Thermal Sensors measure Tjunction (Temperature junction), which is Core temperature. Since these sensors measure 2 distinct thermal levels, there is a 5c temperature difference between them, which is Tcase to Tjunction Gradient. Core i7’s / i5’s and Core 2 Quad’s have 1 Tcase and 4 Tjunction sensors, while Core 2 Duo's have 1 Tcase and 2 Tjunction sensors ...
... The monitoring utilities provided by motherboard manufacturers monitor CPU temperature, while some popular freeware utilities monitor Core temperatures ... Real Temp ... is recommended for users interested in monitoring Core temperatures only ... SpeedFan monitors Tcase (CPU temperature) andTjunction (Core temperature) ...
The thermal specification which is shown in Intel's Processor Spec Finder is Tcase Max (CPU) NOT Tjunction (Core), which is a very common misconception among most enthusiasts. Since there's a 5c gradient between the CPU sensor and the Core sensors, (shown in the following Intel document) - http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0709/0709.1861.pdf - just add 5c to the value shown in the Spec Finder to find the corresponding Core temperature, which is 73c for all Core i7 9xx variants.
Intel's second and frequently misunderstood thermal specification, Tjunction Max, (100c for all Core i variants) applies to overtemp protection such as Throttle and Shutdown, so you don't toast your transistors. As such, any i7 Core temperatures which exceed 73c should be considered "overtemp". Further, when specifications are exceeded, then premature processor degradation (longevity) becomes a factor that should be considered, which is explained in the following AnandTech article - http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/i [...] i=3251&p=6
Since it's somewhat less than clear as to whether the temperature you've listed is actually CPU temperature or Core temperature, and as you haven't listed your ambient temperature, (22c is the Standard for testing and reference), you're potentially either 4c or 9c over specs.
My objective is to assure that less informed enthusiasts understand the specifications, so they can better decide how to apply and manage their overclocking options. If longevity is a concern, then there are three alternatives:
(1) Disable HT and decrease Vcore to ~ 1.3.
(2) Decrease overclock to 3.8 Ghz and Vcore to ~ 1.3.
(3) Save your current BIOS settings as "Profile 1", and save one of the above settings as "Profile 2", either of which is within specs. Then simply load Proifile 1 for gaming, or Profile 2 for routine computing, so as to maximize longevity by minimizing the number of hours spent operating over specs.
IF, on the other hand, you upgrade your rig anually or so, then screw the specs, have numerous beers, and enjoy your rocket!
Hope this helps,
Comp
Message edited by CompuTronix on 09-19-2009 at 04:35:42 AM
As you have prolly guessed im new to overclocking. this is the first computer that i have even considered to overclock.
Im still trying to learn as much as i can, so i have been trying to go slowly and carefully forward in the Ai tweeker menu in the bios.
i didnt run the computer for long with the settings in my post. i turned off the X.M.P and im testing some new settings. but im still having some problems.
the new settings are: Manual: Speedstep and intel turbo Disabled.
Cpu core speed 3800mhz Cpu multiplier at 20x (Auto in bios) Bclk at 190
cpu voltage: 1.35v Dram Bus voltage: 1.66v (Auto in bios) Qpi/dram Core volt: 1.37500v Cpu PLL Volt: 1.80v And everything else on auto.
Room temp about 22c
Cpu temps idle : CPU: 40c Core0: 47c Core1: 47c Core2: 46c Core3: 46c Core4: 47c Core5: 47c
Cpu temps @ max load with Prime95: Cpu: 70c Core0: 79c Core1: 79c Core2: 75c Core3: 75c Core4: 79c Core5: 79c These are the average temps, they vary abit at some points they were all the way up to 85+ on all cores.
Readings are from
SpeedFan 4.39 Cpu-z Asus TurboV
Im still using the Corsair Cooling Hydro H50 cpu cooler. Dont understand why im getting so high temps. Ive been prowling the web and a couple of people come to mind who are stating that they have cooler temps with the stack cooler and same OC as the one i have atm.
Also at one point when i was doing the stress test in prime 95 aprox 1h in i saw in Cpu-z that the Core multiplier went down to 12x and stayed like that for a while and then went back up to 20x. Was this because of to high temps?
Message edited by Sanni786 on 09-19-2009 at 09:49:49 AM
Your Corsair liquid cooling system isn't exactly the best, and CPU-Z sometime does not accurately report the multiplier values, which is unrelated to temperatures, unless of course you're hitting the upper 90's.
Im still using the Corsair Cooling Hydro H50 cpu cooler. Dont understand why im getting so high temps
Because it's not a very good water cooling system! The H50 is a joke in the real water cooling arena. If you want REAL WCing you'll need ~$200-250 for a high end loop. Look at my sig for my WCing loop specs.
Eye opener for me.... I have the Thermaltake BigWater 760is. By comparing the H50 and the Tt760is, I'm guessing mine is a joke too? Well I went to the junk yard and got myself an old mopar transmission oil cooler and rigged it up the the Tt BW760is and I have two DELTA fans blowing the transmission oil cooler. If necessary I shall send pics. But my core temps are from 61c - 79c under max load. Also as you might have know the water block that comes with the 760is was not designed to fit the i7 so I modified it. would be very happy to post pics if necessary. Also I used AS5 for thermal solution. I had the put a lot because it does not spread easily. So What to do to get my temps at 4GHz under max load to 73c and below. Thanks in advance.
Message edited by horatio b on 10-08-2009 at 09:37:32 AM