So, Intel is monopolistic after all..

Intel voices concerns over AMD spin-off
By Justin Mann, TechSpot.com
Published: October 8, 2008, 9:42 AM EST

Even though AMD’s move to sell off their manufacturing assets has been seen by many as a good move for the company, it may not be a smooth transition. Only hours after the announcement, Intel stepped in to say that they are concerned about what AMD has done.

The issue that Intel apparently has is with the cross-licensing that the two companies share. Primarily, AMD is heavily invested in cross-licenses from Intel, which allow them to manufacture processors based on the X86 instruction set, among other technologies that Intel originally created (such as MMX). According to Intel, AMD doesn't have the right to sell those licenses – and thus can't have a third party manufacturing their hardware.

This could prove to be an interesting kink in this developing story, especially if Intel tries to get involved and stop AMD from executing this plan.

http://www.techspot.com/news/31965 [...] inoff.html

Intel's behavior won't sit well in the pending Anti Trust lawsuit.

Intel is also invested in cross licensing from AMD. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out legally, and there's no reason to be fanboyish about it. Any company tries to gain market share lawfully. Competition is about products, but also patents and licenses.

I'm quite sure if the roles were reversed, that the same questions would be raised. It's all a matter for the trier of fact if this ever goes to court, but will probably be worked out in negotiations involving cross licensing. It certainly won't be settled by AMD and Intel fanboys on message boards.

What we should be doing is boycotting Intel products ... simple.

Its Intels right and their responsibility to do this. If they didnt, it would be irresponsible. How hard they push it is where itll play in court, if it ever gets there. Im sure whichever judge presides over this will make sure its on the up and up, and theres nothing Intel nor AMD can do about it.
Its possible Intel could get slapped for being too aggressive, but just like AMD, Intel also knows the score

I'd also wait and see which X86 process will be used (X86-64 is AMD's) X86-16 is public domain (I think the X86-32 is nearing the end of it's patent as well). Also the Manufacturing process may be different, however the IP's and assorted codes (MMX, and SSE) still belong to Microshaft.


*Edit* another strategy would be for AMD to controll 50.1% instead of the 44.4%, giving them majority share in the manufacturing process. In effect nullifying the issue as they will have controll anyway.

It's simple, gentleman: Both companies, (as well as others), strive to create and drive industry standards. When one "wins" a particular standard and the industry adopts it in a widespread manner (x86 for Intel, X86~64 for AMD), then the other guy ends up licencing it in order to continue to compete. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that this stuff is not transferable to 3rd parties. Especially when you consider the dollar values associated with these technologies.

Make no bones about it - Intel have a financial interest from the licencing revenues derived from their technologies. This statement puts all parties on notice that Intel are paying attention. No more, no less. At the end of the day, the appropriate monies will change hands, and it will be business as usual. Indeed - This entire process *is* business as usual.


But no... Here at Toms we are apparently obligated to populate our posts with asinine childish partisan bullsh*t. Therefore simple statements over licencing rights somehow get turned into accusations of monopoly. I swear, the amount of drama generated over nothing is worse than Jr High School.... and apparently less educated to boot.

agreed


Their just a little cranky because they never made it with a girl and they had a late puberty. so they just get into their little fits and create arguments on the forums. lol
jk

...and OP is a troll afterall...

Boycotting Intel? That's impossible.

Don't all companies strive to be monopolies? This is a fuss about nothing either:

1) AMD will give Intel a fat wad of cash for an amended licence and carry on as normal

or

2) AMD won't give Intel a fat wad of cash for an amended licence and things will still carry on as normal

Either way enigma067, no need to panic.

I find you factual assessment to be boring.

Thread will be locked in 3... 2... 1...

I'm not all knowing, but I'm not a AMD fantool. I'd rather be an imperfect fact seeker than a biased troll. (you're not a troll, but others are)