Does anybody know when they are going to be lifted? Im sick of cpuz shots with extreme overclocks and volts. But most of all im sick of brand loyal fanboys speculating/making stuff up. Im just looking for the real performance/reviews/breakdowns of these cpus.
Huh? Generally,a Phenom to Yorkfield is a ~10/11,Phenom to Penryn 10/12,when it comes to gaming,and that's usually the biggest difference. However,the Phenom's take a little more energy than both due to an inefficient die design.
He was commenting on the performance of AMD vs. Intel right now. I take it you were referring to NDA's relating to Deneb and Nehalem? Well Nehalem will be out by mid November and we'll see reviews at all the reputable sites.
Deneb will be out in December. I don't have exact release dates. AM3 Denebs will be out in January with the new motherboards. The first reviews of Deneb should be of the limited run Denebs with AM2 support for upgrading 790 boards.
It will be an interesting winter, but it's still a month away for Intel and anywhere from a month and a half to two months away for AMD. Be patients and take every CPU-Z screenshot with a shaker of salt until reviews are out.