just looking to spend $500-700 on a decent desktop, here is what i have so far..
HP Pavilion Elite m9300t customizable Desktop PC
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• – Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
• – Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad processor Q6600 (2.4GHz)
• – 4GB DDR2-800MHz dual channel SDRAM (4x1024)
• – 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9500GS, DVI-I, VGA, HDMI
• – FREE UPGRADE to 750GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 500GB
• – No additional (Ethernet LAN port on system board)
• – LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
• – 15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, 1394, video, audio
• – ATSC-NTSC TV tuner with PVR, FM tuner, remote
• – Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
• – Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
• – Norton Internet Security(TM) 2008 - 15 month
• – HP keyboard and HP optical mouse
• – HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
I can get that for $673 after the 30% off special HP is currently running
Message edited by plaz on 08-28-2008 at 09:28:24 PM
really i cant comment on it since its a OEM computer.
what i can suggest you is get the most basic model from the range and buy the cheaper upgrade after you got it if you cant be bother build the computer from ground up.
It would appear that's a lot of computer for the money, but the video card isn't anything special. I'm not even seeing a 9500 GS listed as a desktop part... I know that Nvidia has a 9500 GS as a mobile part... if that's the case, what you're getting is roughly equivalent to a 8600 GT. As long as you're sticking with low resolutions, low detail quality and don't plan on playing new games on it a few years down the ride... yeah, I guess you'll be ok. That's when you decide to upgrade it and that's when the ugliness of your HP becomes all-too-apparent.
Yeah if you feel confident enough to build your own PC, I'd go that route. It's really not that hard at all, even though it seems like a huge task to take on. If you really want to go the OEM route, you could puchase that computer, downgrade the video card (If possible, to save money) and then purchase something like this:
there really isn't that much difference
the 9500 has more memory, but pretty much everything else is the same, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference between them
so a 9500 should be a little better than a 8600,
but an 8600 isn't very good, so a little better than a 8600 still isn't very good
it is important to know what resolution you'll be playing,
maybe 19 inch 1440 x 900 ?
and also what kind of games? how graphic intensive are they?
true, you've got to add some for shipping, but most of it is free shipping and some of it comes with rebates, and if you're willing to wait and buy it over a period of time, you can always find discounts of 5 and 10 dollars per piece
Message edited by jamesl on 08-29-2008 at 01:58:57 AM
I would not bother with the 9500gt. Especially not 2. Check out the ATI radeon 4670 should be a way better card, and doesn't require too big of a Power supply.
The card was installed in my new HP m9500y desktop. It worked great for the first month then developed a loud hum and pinging sound in the fan. My CPU became louder then my washing machine. I went online with HP's Tech support and learned that it was a common problem in this video card. Their advise was to update my BIOS and do another update that was reported to make the fan run quieter. In the end the fixes didn't work and the Tech support advised that they wouldn't replace the card because the replacement they would send out would have the same problem. Not the kind of response I was looking for from a company like HP. I envision that if they continue to treat their customers like this they will travel down the same path to bankrupcy as GM and Chrysler. What has happened to our American companies and support for the products they produce...I getting close to switching over to the dark side,,,errr Apple
HP was never that great. Apple support is a POS. My friend had a macbook pro lappy "under warranty" and they still made him pay $300 to replace a faulty mobo.
The card was installed in my new HP m9500y desktop. It worked great for the first month then developed a loud hum and pinging sound in the fan. My CPU became louder then my washing machine. I went online with HP's Tech support and learned that it was a common problem in this video card. Their advise was to update my BIOS and do another update that was reported to make the fan run quieter. In the end the fixes didn't work and the Tech support advised that they wouldn't replace the card because the replacement they would send out would have the same problem. Not the kind of response I was looking for from a company like HP. I envision that if they continue to treat their customers like this they will travel down the same path to bankrupcy as GM and Chrysler. What has happened to our American companies and support for the products they produce...I getting close to switching over to the dark side,,,errr Apple
The card was installed in my new HP m9500y desktop. It worked great for the first month then developed a loud hum and pinging sound in the fan. My CPU became louder then my washing machine. I went online with HP's Tech support and learned that it was a common problem in this video card. Their advise was to update my BIOS and do another update that was reported to make the fan run quieter. In the end the fixes didn't work and the Tech support advised that they wouldn't replace the card because the replacement they would send out would have the same problem. Not the kind of response I was looking for from a company like HP. I envision that if they continue to treat their customers like this they will travel down the same path to bankrupcy as GM and Chrysler. What has happened to our American companies and support for the products they produce...I getting close to switching over to the dark side,,,errr Apple
I have the same machine (m9500y) and had the same problem with the graphic card (NVIDIA GE Force 9500GS). HP was well aware of the problem as it happened to a lot of us; in my case they over-nighted a new card (9500gs) with a pre-paid return of the old card via FedEx just a couple of weeks ago. If your machine is still in warranty (mine is only 6 mos old) get them on the tech support chat feature and demand a replacement. Good luck
The card was installed in my new HP m9500y desktop. It worked great for the first month then developed a loud hum and pinging sound in the fan. My CPU became louder then my washing machine. I went online with HP's Tech support and learned that it was a common problem in this video card. Their advise was to update my BIOS and do another update that was reported to make the fan run quieter. In the end the fixes didn't work and the Tech support advised that they wouldn't replace the card because the replacement they would send out would have the same problem. Not the kind of response I was looking for from a company like HP. I envision that if they continue to treat their customers like this they will travel down the same path to bankrupcy as GM and Chrysler. What has happened to our American companies and support for the products they produce...I getting close to switching over to the dark side,,,errr Apple
HP told me to go to 9500replacement.msicomputer.com and i filled out the form which didnt work so called the number at bottom and a replacement card is on teh way.
The card was installed in my new HP m9500y desktop. It worked great for the first month then developed a loud hum and pinging sound in the fan. My CPU became louder then my washing machine. I went online with HP's Tech support and learned that it was a common problem in this video card. Their advise was to update my BIOS and do another update that was reported to make the fan run quieter. In the end the fixes didn't work and the Tech support advised that they wouldn't replace the card because the replacement they would send out would have the same problem. Not the kind of response I was looking for from a company like HP. I envision that if they continue to treat their customers like this they will travel down the same path to bankrupcy as GM and Chrysler. What has happened to our American companies and support for the products they produce...I getting close to switching over to the dark side,,,errr Apple
I'll be darned, I have the same set (m9500y) with of course, the same card. Had the same problem (NOISE) after six months. Just a few weeks ago HP acknowledged that it was the card (after I spent a lot of time with tech support) that was making the noise (I had insisted that it was the HD) and they were very eager to convince me that it was the card and NOT the HD. They were right, and glad to prove it to me LOL, and they overnighted me with a replacement card (same model) and sent along a FedEx pre-paid label to return the old one. If I were you I'd get online with tech support, it's easy to do with your HP "Total Care Advisor" and call their bluff on this one.