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August 6, 2008 11:17:42 AM

Hi all,

Im a first time poster and a first time builder. Im a digital designer who primarily uses practically all the adobe cs3 suite including Adobe after effects and premiere. I also dabble with 3dsmax and Maya and would infact like to become a little more serious about using these.

With this in mind, I've attempted to spec a pc with a budget of around £1000 (roughly). I would love some thoughts and advice as I am a complete novice.

Case
Antec Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-101-AN&utm_source=froogle
£35.24

Processor
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9550
http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=67484&source=froogle
£327.13

Motherboard
Asus P5N-D nForce 750i SLi (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-265-AS
£82.24

Graphics card
PNY nVidia GeForce 8800GT Graphics Card 512MB PCI-E Dual DVI-I/HDTV
http://www.lambda-tek.com/computing/pcdesigner.htm
£94.91

RAM
Corsair 4GB DDR2 XMS2 PC2-6400C5 TwinX (2x2GB)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-136-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813&name=Corsair%204GB%20DDR2%20XMS2%20PC2-6400C5%20TwinX%20(2x2GB)
£64.61

PSU
Coolermaster Real Power 700w Modular Power Supply
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-148-CM&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1103&name=Coolermaster%20Real%20Power%20700w%20Modular%20Power%20Supply
£86.94

2 Auxiliary 120mm fans
Arctic Cooling Arctic Fan 12PWM 120mm Fan - 4-Pin PWM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-013-AR&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=4&name=Arctic%20Cooling%20Arctic%20Fan%2012PWM%20120mm%20Fan%20-%204-Pin%20PWM
£18.78

Optical Drive(s)
Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-099-SA&groupid=701&catid=10&subcat=951&name=Samsung%20SH-S223F/BEBE%2022x%20DVD%B1RW%20SATA%20Dual%20Layer%20ReWriter%20(Black)%20-%20OEM
£17.61

HDD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA-II 16MB Cache
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-138-E&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=768&name=Seagate%20Barracuda%207200.10%20250GB%20SATA-II%2016MB%20Cache%20-%20OEM%20(ST3250410AS)
£34.06

Price: £761.52

Im actually way under budget here but I do also want to buy:

Monitor
Samsung SyncMaster 2253BW 22" LCD Monitor
http://www.pcaccessories.org/Samsung-SyncMaster-2253BW-22-LCD-Monitor/A/B0013PSOT0.htm
£151.53


Absolutely any help is greaty appreciated.

Thank you




August 6, 2008 11:33:20 AM

that Q9550 is too much pricey and isn't that fast from Q9450
i would go with q9450 and overclock it a little
and save some money
i just think its price is not justifying
and in that price of 8800gt you may buy the 4850 which is more powerful
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August 6, 2008 11:36:08 AM

You can save on that power supply if you get the 4850:

ATI Radeon HD 4850 System Requirements

450 Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI Express® power connector recommended (550 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)
Certified power supplies are recommended. Refer to http://ati.amd.com/certifiedPSU for a list of Certified products.
August 6, 2008 11:46:32 AM

evongugg said:
You can save on that power supply if you get the 4850:

ATI Radeon HD 4850 System Requirements

450 Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI Express® power connector recommended (550 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX%u2122 technology in dual mode)
Certified power supplies are recommended. Refer to http://ati.amd.com/certifiedPSU for a list of Certified products.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-005-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=&name=Corsair%20HX%20520W%20ATX2.2%20Modular%20SLI%20Compliant%20PSU%20(CMPSU-520HXUK)
this would be suitable
and save a little more i thinks after effect work need harddisk speed
so if you saved some money you may buy a raptor HDD
August 6, 2008 12:34:08 PM

chechnyan said:
that Q9550 is too much pricey and isn't that fast from Q9450
i would go with q9450 and overclock it a little
and save some money
i just think its price is not justifying
and in that price of 8800gt you may buy the 4850 which is more powerful


Im no good with this overclocking stuff... If the q9450 was not overclocked, would you think I would feel much of a difference in performance with the apps I use?
August 6, 2008 1:12:02 PM

So with the kind suggestions offered my new spec would be looking like:

Case
Antec Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] ce=froogle
£35.24

Processor
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.66GHz 12MB-cache (1333FSB) Processor
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-202-IN
£206.79

Motherboard
Asus P5Q-E Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-281-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1155&name=Asus%20P5Q-E%20Intel%20P45%20(Socket%20775)%20PCI-Express%20DDR2%20Motherboard
£99.86

Graphics card
HIS ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-099-HT
£123.36

RAM
Corsair 4GB DDR2 XMS2 PC2-6400C5 TwinX (2x2GB)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] %20(2x2GB)
£64.61

PSU
Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-005-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=&name=Corsair%20HX%20520W%20ATX2.2%20Modular%20SLI%20Compliant%20PSU%20(CMPSU-520HXUK)
£70.49

2 Auxiliary 120mm fans
Arctic Cooling Arctic Fan 12PWM 120mm Fan - 4-Pin PWM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] -Pin%20PWM
£18.78

Optical Drive(s)
Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] %20-%20OEM
£17.61

HDD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA-II 16MB Cache
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] 3250410AS)
£34.06

2nd HDD - SWAP disk
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10000RPM SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (WD740ADFD)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-087-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=167&name=Western%20Digital%20Raptor%2074GB%2010000RPM%20SATA%2016MB%20Cache%20-%20OEM%20(WD740ADFD)
£92.81

Monitor
Samsung SyncMaster 2253BW 22" LCD Monitor
http://www.pcaccessories.org/Samsu [...] 3PSOT0.htm
£151.53

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Am I getting my money's worth here, or is there anything I could do that could drastically improve my proposed pc's performance?

As a complete noobie to all of this, do all the proposed components seem compatible? Is there any known issues with the parts, ie motherboard not quite sitting right with the case or motherboard not giving the graphics card enough space etc...


Again a huge thank you gor your responses.
August 6, 2008 1:41:56 PM

What OS are you running? If 32bit, stay where you are, if 64bit, you might think of more memory...doesn't Adobe and Maya really like RAM? I think 4gb on XP would be OK, 4gb on Vista...you might consider more if you run 64bit.
August 6, 2008 2:38:56 PM

rubix_1011 said:
What OS are you running? If 32bit, stay where you are, if 64bit, you might think of more memory...doesn't Adobe and Maya really like RAM? I think 4gb on XP would be OK, 4gb on Vista...you might consider more if you run 64bit.


Im thinking about this. I have concerns about compatibility issues with Vista 64X. I do have another PC which I use for general use however, so if I use this build as purely a workstation I may be better off just getting a 64X version now.
August 6, 2008 2:58:38 PM

you absolutely need at least another HD for scratch disk and if it´s bigger than the other if better
August 6, 2008 3:22:10 PM

tomasf said:
you absolutely need at least another HD for scratch disk and if it´s bigger than the other if better


why does it need to be bigger?
August 6, 2008 4:15:16 PM

Since this is a workstation pc, and not a gaming pc, a powerful vga card is not necessary. I would suggest a 9500GT for about 40#.

Your applications can benefit greatly with lots of ram. I think there are some 64 bit optimized versions coming out from Adobe. Ram is cheap, get an additional 4gb of matching ram.

To utilize 8gb of ram, you will need a 64 bit OS. Vista 64 bit home premium is very good.

Two hard drives is a good idea. Put your input on one, and your output on the other if you can. From a performance point of view, all the 7200rpm drives will be about the same. 10,000rpm RAPTOR drives will be a bit faster. Just pick the capacity you need. Vista uses ram instead of swapping if it has enough ram available. If 300gb will be enough, and if the price is not too bothersome, then the ABSOLUTE best hard drive is the VELOCIRAPTOR. The difference will be noticeable.

I find it very useful to use two monitors, the bigger, the better. Don't skimp on monitor, you will keep them through several generations of PC. The 9500GT I referenced above would drive any two you want very nicely.
--good luck---
August 7, 2008 8:32:03 AM

I've heard that the Quadro graphics cards are great for 3d work. Also a lot more expensive. Im not planning on using this machine for gaming, so would it be a sound investment to look at the quadro as opposed to the 9500GT or 8800 GT?
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