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blackhawk1928   08-29-2008 at 10:54:20 PM

Alright so I have had an 8800gts 640mb version and I have been lots of reaserch on the internet and I heard that this card can have crysis on all highs at resolution 1680x1050 dx9 with even 2x AA and play well. Well I have my game set for 1680x1050 with all mediums and 0 AA and the card has trouble getting the game to run smoothly when I am just running around and during big gun fights and firefights, it stutters like crazy, on the interent I saw the card easily being able to handle crysis on highs and during big gun fights, here my specs, I am pretty sure nothing is bottlenecking me cause it did some trouble shooting, I think it might be my card, opinoins would help alot thank you:
Processor: 2.8ghz Dual Core Intel
R.A.M: 2Gb 800mhz
Graphics Card: 8800gts 640mb
Power Supply: 500watt

Should I try taking the card out and putting it back in? Would that help?

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dagger   08-30-2008 at 12:37:00 AM
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Try to disable physics (destructible environment) and see if it helps. Crysis use generic physics engine that runs off cpu. Since you called it "dual core Intel" I'm going to assume it's a early architecture dual and you're embarrassed to tell the whole name (no offense). :na: If so, it may be bottlenecking.

Another thing is ram. Crysis can hog 2+ gb of ram after a while of gameplay. If there's a lot of disk activity whenever it lags, your PC may be using large amount of page file off hdd, tanking fps.

Another thing is, keep in mind, an old g80 8800gts cannot play Crysis at high settings and 1680x1050 and no AA smoothly. It's only 21.48 fps average. Not playable by most people's standards.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/02 [...] p/?page=13

Performance is only around the same as 9600gt:
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/02 [...] p/?page=10


http://en.expreview.com/img/2008/04/01/g80vsg9x/g80all.png

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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blackhawk1928   08-30-2008 at 12:52:26 AM
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My processor is Intel Dual Core 2.8ghz which is only like 2 years old. Thats not that old, and I checked during gameplay my cpu usage at max is around 20-30percent so like I said I AM PRETTY SURE MY CPU ISN'T BOTTLENECKING ME.

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dagger   08-30-2008 at 12:56:35 AM
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blackhawk1928 wrote :

My processor is Intel Dual Core 2.8ghz which is only like 2 years old. Thats not that old, and I checked during gameplay my cpu usage at max is around 20-30percent so like I said I AM PRETTY SURE MY CPU ISN'T BOTTLENECKING ME.



So that leaves ram or graphics card. Or probably both.

Disable page files, and check ram usage.


Message edited by dagger on 08-30-2008 at 12:57:04 AM
------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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blackhawk1928   08-30-2008 at 12:56:51 AM
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I can see that the 8800gts 512mb is quite more powerful then the 640mb. It gets much much more fps. the 512mb gets 11 more fps then the 640mb on 1680x1050 then the 640mb, if this is valid, I might consider switching to the 512mb or maybe get a more powerful like 9800gtx but I still saw those review and videos or people playing crysis maxed at 1680x1050 with smooth gameplay.

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dagger   08-30-2008 at 01:07:19 AM
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blackhawk1928 wrote :

I can see that the 8800gts 512mb is quite more powerful then the 640mb. It gets much much more fps. the 512mb gets 11 more fps then the 640mb on 1680x1050 then the 640mb, if this is valid, I might consider switching to the 512mb or maybe get a more powerful like 9800gtx but I still saw those review and videos or people playing crysis maxed at 1680x1050 with smooth gameplay.



You can't max out Crysis on a single g92 8800gts, not by a long shot. I had mine overclocked 20%, and can barely pull avg 50fps on a lower 1280x1024fps High settings. Very High will take a large toll.

As for 9800gtx being more powerful, it's based on the identical g92 core with 128 stream processors.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/03 [...] review/12/

A 9800gx2 should conquer Crysis, with 48.8 fps at Very High settings and 1680x1050 resolution.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=13

It also outperforms gtx280 and 4870 across the board.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=13
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=14
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=15
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=16
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=17
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=18
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=19

Although the $275 price tag is probably more than you'd like to spend.

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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Wolfshadw   08-30-2008 at 02:55:26 PM
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Blackhawk -

I don't know what videos/reviews you are referring to, but playing the free demo @ 1680x1050, I was only getting between 20 and 25 FPS on my rig (see specs below) which is a dedicated gaming system and certainly without everything set to max. I wouldn't expect anything more than what you're getting.

-Wolf sends

------------------------------ System Specs:
Gigabyte EP43-UD3L Intel Core2Quad Q8400 8 Gig RAM
NVidia Geforce 8800GTS-640/Creative X-FI Extreme Music/Dual-Boot XP-64&Server2008
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blackhawk1928   08-30-2008 at 05:52:46 PM
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I ment crysis maxed out on dx9 which means high not very high! And I check my ram, I disable all extra processes and my firewall/antivirus which chews up my ram and processor usage.

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dagger   08-30-2008 at 06:10:43 PM
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blackhawk1928 wrote :

I ment crysis maxed out on dx9 which means high not very high! And I check my ram, I disable all extra processes and my firewall/antivirus which chews up my ram and processor usage.



Then a single g92 8800gts should be enough, if only barely. You should really get something better. Is the gap between the g80 and g92 8800gts really enough to justify an upgrade? Unfortunately, there aren't any good choices in your case. 9800gtx is just a renamed g92 8800gts for more money.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/03 [...] review/12/

4850 performs poorer than g92 8800gts/9800gtx because Crysis doesn't play well with ATI cards.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/8.html

4870 runs better, but it cost $280, compared to 9800gx2 which cost $275 ($245 after mail in rebate), and performs far below 9800gx2, it's just a bad deal in comparasion. The gtx260 somehow mananged to perform lower than 4870 despite Crysis favoring Nvidia gpus.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=13
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814133217

So that leaves the tab at $275, with no worthy choices that are cheaper.

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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Wolfshadw   08-31-2008 at 01:15:37 AM
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blackhawk1928 wrote :

I ment crysis maxed out on dx9 which means high not very high! And I check my ram, I disable all extra processes and my firewall/antivirus which chews up my ram and processor usage.



And you'll note I'm only running Windows XP-64 (which means DX9.0c). So unless you can link these videos/reviews, I would have to say you're still expecting too much from your system.

-Wolf sends

------------------------------ System Specs:
Gigabyte EP43-UD3L Intel Core2Quad Q8400 8 Gig RAM
NVidia Geforce 8800GTS-640/Creative X-FI Extreme Music/Dual-Boot XP-64&Server2008
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