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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 4:07:28 PM

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I desperately need your expert help people!

I am running XP Pro and have two names that can access XP. When I click on
either one as soon as the desktop appears everything freezes up I can select
different things but nothing happens. I have run all the basics Adaware,
SpyBot, Norton Antivirus, both in regular & in safe mode.

Nothing seems to help. I did have a BackWeb problem and deleted some of them
from the Registry, only BackWeb was deleted, any ideas? I did have Spy
Sweeper installed but it said it was contaminated so I had to uninstall it.

Thanks Bruce

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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 5:46:19 PM

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"Me2Ewe" <blaray@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I desperately need your expert help people!
>
> I am running XP Pro and have two names that can access XP. When I click on
> either one as soon as the desktop appears everything freezes up I can
> select different things but nothing happens. I have run all the basics
> Adaware, SpyBot, Norton Antivirus, both in regular & in safe mode.
>
> Nothing seems to help. I did have a BackWeb problem and deleted some of
> them from the Registry, only BackWeb was deleted, any ideas? I did have
> Spy Sweeper installed but it said it was contaminated so I had to
> uninstall it.
>
> Thanks Bruce
>

Most of the time, I find that symptom on computers where *something* is
trying to start, but for whatever reason, it's failing. So the startup
sequence stops there. Sometimes it's a driver that's not loading, and
sometimes it's a program that's not fully installed, or not fully
uninstalled. It could be spyware or a regular program or the remnants of a
virus that's trying to load. Or it could be some Windows component that's
gotten corrupted or deleted.

Unfortunately, that's a lot of options, and there's no quick fix. You could
try doing a repair install of Windows if you're leaning towards the "windows
component" theory. Otherwise, it's a matter of picking through everything
that's loading at startup to see what's gone wrong.

And of course, there are a multitude of ways to do that. If the system
starts at all, you can check the event log to see what's failing. Or you can
head right to msconfig and turn things off. It helps if you know what you're
looking at. Or you can run HijackThis to see what's starting up and weed out
possible culprits.

If the system doesn't start in any mode (and I'm not sure from you post
because at one point you said it freezes, but then you say you've run
programs and deleted SpySweeper...

If it doesn't finish booting, you can choose to log the boot (from the same
menu you choose Safe Mode from) and then you need to get into the computer
to read that log.

There are also third-party utilities that can report on the startup
programs, but part of their usefulness depends on you knowing a little bit
about what needs to start and what doesn't. If you have to look everything
up, it can be pretty time consuming, and if you just guess, it can make
things worse. BackWeb, by the way, is not always malicious. There's a
BackWeb component that installs with some printers, and some manufacturers
use it for their "help" software. So it's possible that something is looking
for BackWeb, but can't find it.

Have you (or can you) try system restore?
Anonymous
September 1, 2005 12:33:57 PM

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That's what it was Logitech needed Backweb and was looking for it, when it
installed itself again all was well. Thanks for helping
"D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Me2Ewe" <blaray@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23RZEr2YrFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>I desperately need your expert help people!
>>
>> I am running XP Pro and have two names that can access XP. When I click
>> on either one as soon as the desktop appears everything freezes up I can
>> select different things but nothing happens. I have run all the basics
>> Adaware, SpyBot, Norton Antivirus, both in regular & in safe mode.
>>
>> Nothing seems to help. I did have a BackWeb problem and deleted some of
>> them from the Registry, only BackWeb was deleted, any ideas? I did have
>> Spy Sweeper installed but it said it was contaminated so I had to
>> uninstall it.
>>
>> Thanks Bruce
>>
>
> Most of the time, I find that symptom on computers where *something* is
> trying to start, but for whatever reason, it's failing. So the startup
> sequence stops there. Sometimes it's a driver that's not loading, and
> sometimes it's a program that's not fully installed, or not fully
> uninstalled. It could be spyware or a regular program or the remnants of a
> virus that's trying to load. Or it could be some Windows component that's
> gotten corrupted or deleted.
>
> Unfortunately, that's a lot of options, and there's no quick fix. You
> could try doing a repair install of Windows if you're leaning towards the
> "windows component" theory. Otherwise, it's a matter of picking through
> everything that's loading at startup to see what's gone wrong.
>
> And of course, there are a multitude of ways to do that. If the system
> starts at all, you can check the event log to see what's failing. Or you
> can head right to msconfig and turn things off. It helps if you know what
> you're looking at. Or you can run HijackThis to see what's starting up and
> weed out possible culprits.
>
> If the system doesn't start in any mode (and I'm not sure from you post
> because at one point you said it freezes, but then you say you've run
> programs and deleted SpySweeper...
>
> If it doesn't finish booting, you can choose to log the boot (from the
> same menu you choose Safe Mode from) and then you need to get into the
> computer to read that log.
>
> There are also third-party utilities that can report on the startup
> programs, but part of their usefulness depends on you knowing a little bit
> about what needs to start and what doesn't. If you have to look everything
> up, it can be pretty time consuming, and if you just guess, it can make
> things worse. BackWeb, by the way, is not always malicious. There's a
> BackWeb component that installs with some printers, and some manufacturers
> use it for their "help" software. So it's possible that something is
> looking for BackWeb, but can't find it.
>
> Have you (or can you) try system restore?
>
>
>
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Anonymous
September 1, 2005 1:53:14 PM

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Me2Ewe wrote:
> That's what it was Logitech needed Backweb and was looking for it, when it
> installed itself again all was well. Thanks for helping
> "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3njrcdF1teueU1@individual.net...
>
>>"Me2Ewe" <blaray@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:%23RZEr2YrFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>I desperately need your expert help people!
>>>
>>>I am running XP Pro and have two names that can access XP. When I click
>>>on either one as soon as the desktop appears everything freezes up I can
>>>select different things but nothing happens. I have run all the basics
>>>Adaware, SpyBot, Norton Antivirus, both in regular & in safe mode.
>>>
>>>Nothing seems to help. I did have a BackWeb problem and deleted some of
>>>them from the Registry, only BackWeb was deleted, any ideas? I did have
>>>Spy Sweeper installed but it said it was contaminated so I had to
>>>uninstall it.
>>>
>>>Thanks Bruce
>>>
>>
>>Most of the time, I find that symptom on computers where *something* is
>>trying to start, but for whatever reason, it's failing. So the startup
>>sequence stops there. Sometimes it's a driver that's not loading, and
>>sometimes it's a program that's not fully installed, or not fully
>>uninstalled. It could be spyware or a regular program or the remnants of a
>>virus that's trying to load. Or it could be some Windows component that's
>>gotten corrupted or deleted.
>>
>>Unfortunately, that's a lot of options, and there's no quick fix. You
>>could try doing a repair install of Windows if you're leaning towards the
>>"windows component" theory. Otherwise, it's a matter of picking through
>>everything that's loading at startup to see what's gone wrong.
>>
>>And of course, there are a multitude of ways to do that. If the system
>>starts at all, you can check the event log to see what's failing. Or you
>>can head right to msconfig and turn things off. It helps if you know what
>>you're looking at. Or you can run HijackThis to see what's starting up and
>>weed out possible culprits.
>>
>>If the system doesn't start in any mode (and I'm not sure from you post
>>because at one point you said it freezes, but then you say you've run
>>programs and deleted SpySweeper...
>>
>>If it doesn't finish booting, you can choose to log the boot (from the
>>same menu you choose Safe Mode from) and then you need to get into the
>>computer to read that log.
>>
>>There are also third-party utilities that can report on the startup
>>programs, but part of their usefulness depends on you knowing a little bit
>>about what needs to start and what doesn't. If you have to look everything
>>up, it can be pretty time consuming, and if you just guess, it can make
>>things worse. BackWeb, by the way, is not always malicious. There's a
>>BackWeb component that installs with some printers, and some manufacturers
>>use it for their "help" software. So it's possible that something is
>>looking for BackWeb, but can't find it.
>>
>>Have you (or can you) try system restore?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Isn't BackWeb spyware that needs to be removed?

gls858
September 1, 2005 2:27:24 PM

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gls858 wrote:

> Isn't BackWeb spyware that needs to be removed?
>
> gls858

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. It depends on the program that installed
the BackWeb. HP uses it, as does Logitech, as does F-Secure. I haven't
seen BackWeb being used by real malware for awhile; the real malware
has gone way beyond BackWeb. Bottom line with BackWeb - always check to
see what program it is associated with and if a legitimate one, leave
it alone.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Anonymous
September 1, 2005 3:59:02 PM

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Glad it worked. I'm always suspicious of BackWeb myself, but a lot of legit
programs use it too, which makes it worse.


"Me2Ewe" <blaray@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o qGQqIwrFHA.2008@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> That's what it was Logitech needed Backweb and was looking for it, when it
> installed itself again all was well. Thanks for helping
> "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3njrcdF1teueU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Me2Ewe" <blaray@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23RZEr2YrFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>I desperately need your expert help people!
>>>
>>> I am running XP Pro and have two names that can access XP. When I click
>>> on either one as soon as the desktop appears everything freezes up I can
>>> select different things but nothing happens. I have run all the basics
>>> Adaware, SpyBot, Norton Antivirus, both in regular & in safe mode.
>>>
>>> Nothing seems to help. I did have a BackWeb problem and deleted some of
>>> them from the Registry, only BackWeb was deleted, any ideas? I did have
>>> Spy Sweeper installed but it said it was contaminated so I had to
>>> uninstall it.
>>>
>>> Thanks Bruce
>>>
>>
>> Most of the time, I find that symptom on computers where *something* is
>> trying to start, but for whatever reason, it's failing. So the startup
>> sequence stops there. Sometimes it's a driver that's not loading, and
>> sometimes it's a program that's not fully installed, or not fully
>> uninstalled. It could be spyware or a regular program or the remnants of
>> a virus that's trying to load. Or it could be some Windows component
>> that's gotten corrupted or deleted.
>>
>> Unfortunately, that's a lot of options, and there's no quick fix. You
>> could try doing a repair install of Windows if you're leaning towards the
>> "windows component" theory. Otherwise, it's a matter of picking through
>> everything that's loading at startup to see what's gone wrong.
>>
>> And of course, there are a multitude of ways to do that. If the system
>> starts at all, you can check the event log to see what's failing. Or you
>> can head right to msconfig and turn things off. It helps if you know what
>> you're looking at. Or you can run HijackThis to see what's starting up
>> and weed out possible culprits.
>>
>> If the system doesn't start in any mode (and I'm not sure from you post
>> because at one point you said it freezes, but then you say you've run
>> programs and deleted SpySweeper...
>>
>> If it doesn't finish booting, you can choose to log the boot (from the
>> same menu you choose Safe Mode from) and then you need to get into the
>> computer to read that log.
>>
>> There are also third-party utilities that can report on the startup
>> programs, but part of their usefulness depends on you knowing a little
>> bit about what needs to start and what doesn't. If you have to look
>> everything up, it can be pretty time consuming, and if you just guess, it
>> can make things worse. BackWeb, by the way, is not always malicious.
>> There's a BackWeb component that installs with some printers, and some
>> manufacturers use it for their "help" software. So it's possible that
>> something is looking for BackWeb, but can't find it.
>>
>> Have you (or can you) try system restore?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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