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August 8, 2008 9:56:41 PM

Hi,

please bear with me, im a big nub when it comes to IT stuff....

I'm looking to build/buy a desktop but i am not sure what the best components will be...

I will be using the computer to play online poker and watch films... Gaming is not really very important to me. but there will be several programs running simultaneously and i would like it to handle em all comfortably without any lag or hangups..

Id like it to be quiet... although i hear u can access your tower unit remotely now (run your mouse keyboard and monitor through electric LAN network) so i may do that in future if its noisy, provided i don't loose out on performance too much..

I will need plenty of storage so im thinking 500+ HD (which HD? Sata2?)

Is it possible to have a HD output from ur GFX card to your monitor (HD TVor HD ready LCD) to watch your films in HD? and does a sound card really make much of a difference? Films are important lol..

So given those parameters what would you guys recomend? i dont need exact specs just general guidelines.. budget is not really an issue but i dont really want to spend much more then £1k , also if i wanted to to get a company to build it who is the "best" company to go for?

so far ive looked into over clockers and dell along with some other custom build ones, but i always end up spec'ing it to something silly and cost is 1500-3k!! so i thought i would post and ask do i really need top of the range stuff when likely hood of me playing a game on it is very low, (i do have another gaming rig in bros room which i frag on from time to time thou lol)

Thanks for all help in advance.. :wahoo: 

Mk

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August 8, 2008 10:19:01 PM

My recommendations (on a $500 budget):

E2180/E7200/Q6600
8800GS/9600GSO
P35-DS3L/P45-DS3L
Corsair 450VX
WD 640GB AAKS
Any case, DVD RW,etc you need

For quiet case fans look in to Yate Loon and Scyth.

I haven't looked too much in to quiet CPU fans but if not OCing stock fan will be fine.

For quiet HSFs:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article30-page1.html

I recommend the XIGMATEK S1283 (+ bolt in kit)

The PC listed with the E7200 will be able to handle almost everything you throw at it. And yes, you ca out put HD to a HDTV providing you get a DVI to HDMI converter.
August 9, 2008 12:12:07 AM

Looking at a $2000 build and taking into consideration VAT and higher prices in the UK.
I would look at.
OS: OEM version of windows xp pro 32 bit.
If you feel you need DX 10 then Vista home 64 bit

CPU: Intel E8500 or Q6600

Motherboard: A P35 NorthBridge one

Ram: Anything you can get that's less than 25 quid a GB for 4GB just make sure it's a name brand with a lifetime warranty.

Video Card: 8600GT if your just gona watch movies.
8800GT if you want to play games and watch movies. If XfX and EVGA offer their life warranty in the UK, well it's a no brain er.

PSU: Any tier 1 or 2 PSU rated at 600 watts or better.

Hard Drive: If Seagate offers it's 5 year warranty in the UK get one of the series 7200.11 32MB cache hard drives, 500GB or higher.

DVD Burner: I don't buy anything made by Sony/NEC not since the root kit thing anyways. I mostly buy Samsung.

After Market CPU Cooling: I buy the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, all but one of my CPU's has an AC cooler on it. Now if you want to spend a bit more, I would look at the Xigmatek HDT S1284 it's got the best specs for cooling of all the air cooling units. But in Pea soup UK you prolly won't need anything better than stock unless you overclock the computer.

Monitor: I like Samsung here also, 22 inch lcd HDCP with an HDMI input.

Well these guidelines should help you kill off a thousand pounds easily.
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August 9, 2008 12:36:54 AM

hell no he should just buy an oem box, and i think you should go for hydraulic lan vs electric lan because it has more psi.
August 9, 2008 4:09:00 AM

Thanks a lot guys, im starting to get a clearer picture of what i need in my PC imo.. How do u guys feel about "pre-overclocked" Processors?

I found the spec below for ~650 on OC . com are they generally over priced? (i dont mind paying slightly extra if the specs are good!)

- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 GO 2.40GHz Quad Core CPU Overclocked too a minimum of 3.30GHz and beyond. (8/9 x 400MHz - 1600MHz FSB)
- Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro Intel approved cooler
- Arctic Silver 5 Heatsink compound professionally hand installed by our technicians
- Abit IP35-Pro Intel P35 (Socket LGA775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
- Award winning OCZ 2GB SLI PC2-8500 CAS5 (2x1GB) Dual Channel Kit (Overclocked at 1000MHz+)
- 500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 32MB Cache SATA-2 Hard Drive
- NVIDIA XFX Alpha Dog 8800 GT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) DirectX 10 Graphics Card
- Pioneer 215DBK 20x DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black)
- Corsair TX 650W Next Generation Power Supply
- 1yr Onsite Collect & Return Warranty (Can collect from any address (UK Mainland ONLY) and same day collection possible if requested before 11am)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS...
August 9, 2008 6:28:30 AM

Just saw this system in Dell outlet, what do you guys think?

XPS 420 Premium Quad Core Prsr 2.40GHz
English Windows Vista Home Premium
System Price £699.66 (prolly 850ish after VAT + del charges)


Operating System: English Windows Vista Home Premium
Memory: 4096MB DDR2 667 [4*1024]
Hard Disk Drive: 2x 500GB 7200rpm SATA HD

Video: Graphics 1GB 3870 X2 graphics card
Sound Card: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme
DVD Drive: Blu-ray 4X DVD+/-RW


+ some other Misc stuff.. http://outlet.dell.com/Emea_Dfo/EuDispatcher?target=Spe...!2120999847!240363513!1218262891550
August 9, 2008 6:40:13 AM

Sure mate it looks fine, if the price suits you great. I would try to get a longer warranty though, not withstanding obtuse recommendations from the condescending knuckelous nimblous.
Building a box can be fun, also frustrating, if you have people that you can call on if you get stuck, you can learn much about a computer system.
Over all the choice comes down to you, and your own level of desire to do a home build.
I haven't bought a manufactured system in 13 years.

August 9, 2008 7:58:14 AM

Ok so the more i look around the more i feel gettin an overclocked system might be a good idea, esp if i can get em to build it for me..

So far i have

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 2.40GHz Guaranteed to run at 3.30GHZ (1466FSB) - Retail £ 105

Leadtek GeForce 8800 GTB OC 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) £ 100 (does this have to be DDR2 to work with this mobo?)

OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8500C5 1066MHz Reaper HPC Edition Dual Channel DDR2 (OCZ2RPR10664GK) £75
or
Corsair 4GB DDR2 XMS2 Dominator PC2-8500C5 TwinX (2x2GB) Supplied with Airflow Fan (TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF) £82

Abit IP35 Pro XE Intel P35 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £ 100

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST3500320AS) £50


LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray Reader & HD-DVD ROM Serial ATA Drive - Retail £ 60 (not sure if this is any good tbh...)

Arctic Cooling Alpine 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775) £8 (do i need more of a cooler?)

A good case and PSU recommendation? And possibly a Sound card?

so far its looking to cost me around 700-900 once i factor in the case and sound card and OS (vista ultimate? is there much diff bettween home?)

... what do u guys think..
August 9, 2008 9:47:03 AM

royalcrown said:
hell no he should just buy an oem box, and i think you should go for hydraulic lan vs electric lan because it has more psi.



what is this "Hydraulic Lan"? i goggled it but didnt find anything, the electric lan i was refering to was a Poweline HD thing.
August 9, 2008 8:38:04 PM

Give no attention to the mooncalf whom fancies himself regent of regency du cola.
There is no lan that is hydraulic.
Ergo my prior remark regarding obtuseness and condescension.

The Antec 300 is a good case, no frills but good ventilation.
I always buy PCPower PSU's, something over 600watts would work well for you.
August 9, 2008 10:39:00 PM

blaaaargh stay away from dell, pcworld or any pre built system!!!

OC is a brilliant site used them alot and never had any issues!!!
August 9, 2008 11:23:31 PM

get vista home ultimate is pointless!

case depends on you ability to build a case and whether or not you want a huge one??

zalman makes a very fine case called the GT1000 or antecs range is very good!

for sound card most decent MOBO's over the 150 mark have a good on board soundcard that will be fine for most. however if you have good ears and want only the best then youll be looking at 100 plus for a good one.

PSU modular cables are easier to keep tidy and keep cooling at a maximum youd probably need a 600W which will fit fine in a mid case. ( antec P182)

if your not sure send a webnote to the staff at www.overclockers.co.uk there very friendly
August 11, 2008 1:29:30 AM


what do you guys think of this build? and for £1500 what kinda specs can i expect... this PC building is sooo damn infuriating atm... i just cant decide what i would need... i am either at £500 region with core2duos Or in 1500+ region with SLIs... WHAT TO DO!!!

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August 11, 2008 1:55:17 AM

You always seem to comeback to what you started with eh... I am thinking of the below specs for £750.... with Vista Home prem 64bit and Upgrade to 4GB RAM.. This is from OC, I havnt come across any other site that i can get a similar deal... i thought about Dell XPS fora while but that is far too overpriced imho and alienware... not yet i think lol.

Please stop me if i am about to make a critical error, i think i will put my order in Mon night :) 


- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 GO 2.40GHz Quad Core CPU Overclocked too a minimum of 3.30GHz and beyond. (8/9 x 400MHz - 1600MHz FSB)

- Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro Intel approved cooler

- Arctic Silver 5 Heatsink compound professionally hand installed by our technicians

- Abit IP35-Pro Intel P35 (Socket LGA775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

- Award winning OCZ 2GB SLI PC2-8500 CAS5 (2x1GB) Dual Channel Kit (Overclocked at 1000MHz+)

- 500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 32MB Cache SATA-2 Hard Drive

- NVIDIA XFX Alpha Dog 8800 GT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) DirectX 10 Graphics Card

- Pioneer 215DBK 20x DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black)

- Corsair TX 650W Next Generation Power Supply

- 1yr Onsite Collect & Return Warranty (Can collect from any address (UK Mainland ONLY) and same day collection possible if requested before 11am)
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