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October 7, 2009 2:00:25 PM

Is there a way to safely overclock this setup?
If so need help please, newbie.

Motherboard: Bio Star Bios TF 560 A2+ Chipset: NVIDIA nForce 560
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ Black Box Edition
Display Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Power Supply: 750 Watt Rosewill
Hard Drives: WD ST3500630AS, WD6400AAKS-75A7B2, WD3200JD-22KLB0, Maxtor 6 L300R0, Samsung SP0802N, WD80 0JB-00FMA0
Network Card: Realtek RTL8110SC - 10/100/1000 Controller
DVD Burners: Lite-On LH-20A1L, LH-20a1P, PLEXTOR PX-850SA 22X
Raid Controller: Silicon Image SiI0680 ATA-133 Medley Raid Controller
Monitor: Hanns-G HB1910
Audio Codec: Realtek ALC888 8+2 Channel HD Audio
Memory: Corsair DDR2 800Mhz - 4 Gig

Unemployed and no money to upgrade.

Thank you much.

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a b K Overclocking
October 7, 2009 5:36:30 PM

There is no need to overclock your system, for the following reasons:

1. If you were to overclock the GPU you might melt it. (Those cards are known for running quite hot). Even then your processor/ram can easily handle it being overclocked.
2. If you were to overclock your CPU, your GPU would still handicap your CPU. You won't notice a dramatic difference in FPS gains, if you gain any.

If you were to overclock it anyhow, I'd recommend using the multiplier overclock since your processor is a black edition.

Multiplier overclocking mode is used to change the multiplier (or the number which is multiplied by the FSB ( in AMD's case the name for FSB is HT) to increase clock speed without the overclocking of any other hardware pieces.

Most HT speeds on AMD motherboards are set to 200.00 mhz~. Your processor if I am not mistaken is a 2.6 ghz black edition processor, meaning the multipliers have been unlocked for easier overclocking. So most likely your multiplier is currently set at 13x multiplier (13x200 mhz= 2.6 ghz)

Now obviously to get more juice out of a electrical device you need to feed it more electricity, you do this by providing higher voltages.

WARNING WARNING WARNING: RAISING VOLTAGES PAST 1.45 for Athlon is a NO NO. Keep it below 1.45! PLEASE CONSIDER STOPPING AT THE LAST STABLE CONFIGURATION

Numbers= Steps, Letters=Options or situations, Number+Letter= options for a step.
The process of multiplier overclocking:
1. Enter your Bios, and look for "advanced" or "performance" tabs. You may need to dig around since it changes from bios to bios, motherboard to motherboard.
2. Once you find it, look now for "CPU Multipliers" in one of the sub menus.
3. Once you find it, now look for "CPU Voltage", you may need to do some research because most bios display many voltages for the CPU, look for the CPU voltage (confirm it online using google).
4. Raise the Mutliplier by 2x more, putting you at 15x200mhz=3.0 ghz...
5. Raise the voltage by .05volts.
6. Boot your system and use Prime95 (google it) and run torture test. Also try obtaining a CPU temperature monitor for Windows (AMD Overdrive will do it for temps). Make sure temperatures do not reach over 60c under full load.

Now there's two things that can happen here:
A. You ran Prime95, and it stayed below 60c under full load for atleast 15 mintues without crashing.
B. You ran Prime95, and it stayed above 60c under full load OR it crashed.
C. Your PC won't boot up, please refer to your Manual for the motherboard to "Reset jumpers".
D. I reset the jumpers but it doesn't boot still, contact your manufacturers for warranty and cross your fingers because you did something wrong (dont tell them that ofc ).

8. If you got option A, then you can raise the multiplier by 1x more, and redo step 5-6 and if you go back to A after raising the multiplier for the 2nd time, then go ahead and go on redoing the steps until your reach the speed you want.

9. If you got option B while your CPU runs well under 60c under full load, then you can either:
9a. Raise the voltage by .05 until Prime95 runs stable for at least 15 minutes. Remember not to go above 1.45v!!

Follow the steps above, once your happy with the clock or atleast limited by temperatures or voltages or anxiety then please run a MINIMUM OF 3 HOURS OF PRIME95 TORTURE TEST FOR FULL SYSTEM STABILITY. I recommend 8 hours and will not deem any configuration stable unless it can run for 8 hrs.. MAKE SURE TO MONITOR YOUR TEMPERATURES CONSTANTLY DURING THE TEST. If your computer remains ON/ COOL for 8 hours of Prime95, then you got a stable system. If your computer crashes or boots, redo the steps for increasing voltage until you hit 1.45v, in which case it's best if you go down a notch.
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October 7, 2009 6:12:45 PM

Thank you for your help. I will try your recommendations.
The Motherboard has an auto adjust overclocking (Like a car)V6,V8,V12....cannot get mine above V6, in V8 it posts and goes to XP desktop, then crashes.
Also, recently, if too many progs are open, memory/hard drive activity light freezes or runs slow. when i attempt to shut it down (windows shut down) it freezes and I have to use the power button to shut it down.
Also, I tried to install AOD, but it will not run on this system, do you have any other suggestions for software?
Thank you again,
Paul
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October 12, 2009 4:54:32 PM

Do I have to increase the voltage in order to get the performance? So far i have just increased the multiplier and have noticed a slight increase in performance. Now running at 2.81GHz. Thank you, Paul
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October 12, 2009 8:19:29 PM

As far as I know you only have to raise volts to stable overclock, cpuid hardware monitor is what i use its free
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October 12, 2009 9:32:10 PM

What software do you use to verify temperature?
now running at 14x and it seems stable...ran prime 95 for 2 hours last night, no problems.
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October 12, 2009 9:38:44 PM

cpuid hardware monitor google it works for me, it shows temps and volts aslong as you mobo has the sensors
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a b K Overclocking
October 12, 2009 10:10:14 PM

I would recommend preferably, AMD Overdrive for monitoring Temperatures, and clock speeds. It is as accurate as you can get. It registers the same temperature as the motherboard's BIOS, as well as it's clocks.
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October 12, 2009 11:34:49 PM

Thank you AS, but i have tried to use AMD OD (AOD) before but after installation and reboot it fails to execute. Any other suggestions?
Thank you Youngster, will download and try.
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October 13, 2009 9:49:09 PM

i dont know if this will help or not.
but i have 2600pro on my second pc, and it is overclocked. it is HIS ICEQ DDR2 256MB version with factory OC which came with (650/1050) vs stock (600/1000)
and i Oced more to (746/1080) load temp is only 60 max
in some games this improved about 6-8 FPS
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October 22, 2009 12:10:37 PM

Just a note. May have taken care of the system lockup. I increased my page file from 2400 to 4600. Music and programs preforming much better, no hangups. Also, bought an extra fan and put inside my box, to circulate air better, it is keeping the temperature lower.
The error message i get for AOD is: "AMD OverDrive cannot detect AMD 7-series chipset on this computer." But PC Wizard sez my NBchipset is AMD K8 and SB is nVidia nForce 560. What am I missing?
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