which graphic card should i buy????

sxulocktor

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hello!!

well that's my PC:

Asus Rampage Formula X48
E8400 @ 3.8ghz 24/7 1.23Vcore
2x1gb supertalent @ 1000mhz
320gb western digital
Istar USA PSU 750W tcPD1
8800gt 512mb


Well, i want to buy a new graphic card for my computer. my res is 1680x1050.

I live in argentina, so, the prices are alot Expensiver than in the united states.


i can buy at the same price an PNY 9800GX2 Overclocked at 675Mhz /memory clock at 2100Mhz, or a Sapphire 4850 Crossfire.

obviously im going to put 2 gb more to my computer.



Which performs better? are at about the same price.

Help!
 

br3nd064

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Which games are you going to be playing? They are very close in performance, so it really just comes down to games. What are the prices?
 

sxulocktor

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the prices are about the same, may be some dollars cheaper the 9800gx2.


i play a lot of games, all types of games, sports, FPS, war, strategic, cars, everything
 

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i personally would wait for the next series of cards. ur 8800gts should play most games high on that resolution, but if u must i would recommend the 4870.
 

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If theya re both the same price, or slightly above the 4850 SLI should be the better choice, but if the the 4850 in sli exceeds 50$ I'd say that the 4850 doesn't beat the GX2 by enough to justify the money:)
 

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That may be the case, but since its a english forum, most users will be speaking english, and if some1 speaks another language how can any1 contradict wat the user said?

You can understand he said 4870 here, but if he would've made it a little longer, I think I would be lost:) No1 has anything against it, just how can we argue what we don't understand:D

BTW:

You guys are suggesting the 4870 blindly, did you ask him how much it costs there? he gaves us 2 choices in his price range, 2 4850 HD will smoke 1 4870 just like 1 GX2 will smoke (in most cases) the 4870.

Anyways just putting it out there:) the 4870 is a good card but when it comes to these choices:

4850 CF > GX > 4870
 

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Just buy the XFX GTX 260 xxx edition and you will remember me.
I have this card about 1.5 month and i am overwhelmed by the performance of GTX 260 xxx. All new games in 1650 x 1080 between 30-55 fps!
It's little more expensive from all the others GTX 260, but the benefits you gain are 12% more power from them and about 20-22% faster from the 4870's.

enjoy smooth play...
 


Hahaha, just wanted to give you guys a hard time, lol.

And on Argentina should be close to our price range, expensive that is, :sob:

Anyway, at least on Chile, the GX2 is sold out everywhere (was at the price range of the GTX260) and the 9800GTX+ is on the price range of the 4850. The 4870 is a little cheaper than the GTX260 (~USD$10) and sticks way below the GTX280 (~USD$195 diff, ~USD$595 price tag), wich btw, is closer to the 4870X2 (~USD$710 price tag :mega-sob: ) than the 4870 cause they don't sell and keep the initial price tag (the GTX's that is), lol. The 4870X2 is selling a lot though, kinda weird prices/market, lol.

Esop!

EDIT: Spell and grammar XD
 

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So your saying, that the 260 GTX, which exchanges blows with the 4870 (they are about the same, but the 4870 wins most of the times), is faster than regular 260 GTXs by 12%, and its faster by20-22% than the 4870? Would it be 12% faster than the 4870 (or in some cases on par with 4870) ??

Honestly where do you get these numbers????

And second of all why would you suggest paying for an overclock that can be easily achieve with the extra cash in your pocket.

What you posted was opinion not fact:)
 

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Te agradezco por haber contestado en español, ya que se me hace mas facil leer, por que aun estoy aprendiendo ingles (tengo 15 años). Un saludo!


To all the other people:


i have searched in more shops and the best prices i can get (and buy) are these:

Sapphire 4850 Normal cooler: ~240 U$D (each one, in these case i will be 2, so 480 U$D the Crossfire)

Sapphire 4850 TOXIC ~260 U$D (so the CrossFire about 500 U$D)

9800GX2 PNY overclocked edition: ~ 380 / 400 U$D

sapphire / His 4870 ~ 380 U$S (in this case it will be only 1 card, but in the future, when the prices Fall, i can buy another one)


Which of this one is the best option to buy? I want to play most of the games with the highest filters AA and AF)


PD: in case that you choose the 4870 and the 4870 extra in the future, Will be my PSU enough for the 4870 CF?? its an ISTAR 750W (from Channel Well technology, its the same engine that the Toughpowers and the Corsair 750W). It only have 2 PCI-e 6 pin plugs


THX!
 

L1qu1d

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yes it would but, an ATI card would be better since it has the possibilty for CrossX.

But CrossX (4850) doesn't justify too much of an increase that would lead ppl to pay 50$+ more or so:)
 

br3nd064

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If your power supply only has 2x6pin pcie plugs, it will be enough for one 4870, but not 2 in crossfire. You could always upgrade the power supply later when you buy a second 4870, though.
 


No hay problema :)



I'll answer this in english, it's good practice indeed :p

On the ATi page there a few PSUs that can handle 2 4870 below 900W. I did some research and they have 70A combined on their 12V ramps. I couldn't find your PSU, so check on it's side for the 12V ramps (12V1, 12V2, etc).

I have a TT ToughPower 850 and i want to ask my self this:

On the specs says:

12v1: 1-18A (min-max)
12v2: 1-30A
12v3: 1-18A
12v4: 1-30A

And has a "combined" power of 62A with 99% efficiency on the 12V ramps. Now, we can combine different Amperage per rail to get 62A combined: 12V1@1+12V2@30+12V3@11+12V4@20 (31+31), and so on...

Now, my question: Does that mean that as long as i don't stress the 12v1 and 3 i can go for 4870 CF? All certified PSUs that can handle that are with at least 20A per ramp.

Esop!
 

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Power consumption:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=22

The 750w psu is definitely enough for single 9800gx2 or dual 4850, likely dual 4870 too.

At the prices you cited, 9800gx2 is the best choice. The performance gain in 4850 cf is not nearly big enough to justify the $100 extra. This is especially true since the price you listed is for the factory overclocked edition of 9800gx2 (600mhz to 675mhz), which is 12.5% faster than stock card, which the benchmarks are done on. Add 12.5% into the benchmark, and 9800gx2 averages faster than 4850 cf, although by an amount too tiny to notice in real gameplay.