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October 24, 2008 3:41:25 AM

Hey , I'm a first time builder and just got done putting a system together. Everything is working flawlessly , but whenever I am browsing on IE and scroll up and down on webpages I hear a very faint squealing type noise. I put my ear up to the back of my PSU and it is obviously the source of the noise.

The only time it makes this noise is during certain loading screens, and when scrolling on some webpages.

My setup is as follows :

ASUS p5e3 deluxe wifi
ASUS eah4850 top
E8400
2gb OCZ reaper ddr3
250g HDD
optical drive
zalman 9700
hec-zephyr 750w psu

Here is a link to my power supply : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So far I have tried organizing all the cables since I originally thought it was just some crosstalk or interference. I also tried putting the video card on its own rail to reduce the stress on one rail.

It still is happening. I just want to make sure its not some error on my part before assuming that the PSU is bad.

Has anyone ever heard of anything similiar to this ? I've done some reading around and every thread I find with people having similiar problems is just people saying "bad psu/vid card/etc." and saying to RMA it.

I have looked over ever capacitor on my video card / mobo and all of them are fine as well.

If anyone could shed some light on this I'd really appreciate it.
October 24, 2008 4:21:05 AM

I think its common when theres EMI to the USB slot the mouse is plugged into to be honest. Thats a pretty hefty PSU for nothing. Could get away with 500watts easily.
October 24, 2008 1:59:03 PM

So its nothing I should be too worried about ? I went ahead and bought a powersupply that I could upgrade/overclock into in the future.
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October 24, 2008 2:27:08 PM

I had the exact same problem a couple months ago.

I could not find the true source of the noise, since it was so high pitched, but was assuming it was memory. I looked on the motherboard for obvious signs of defect, blown caps, etc. but found none.

I swapped the memory with some spare I had, swapped video cards, and the noise continued.

It started really bothering me, but could not figure out what was going on.

After a while, the motherboard failed to post.

RMA'ed the motherboard, Abit shipped back a different model and the squealing dissapeared.

Just my experience.

I would also like to add, take the side panel off the case, and stick your ear in there.... Maybe the noise was getting out your power supply coming from your motherboard.
October 24, 2008 2:33:51 PM

I should note that I have that same power supply, but in a different build.

I have no squealing coming from it.
October 24, 2008 3:52:41 PM

Hmm. Thanks for the info.

I've taken the side panel off and literally stuck my head in the case to make absolutely sure that it is coming from the PSU, which it is.

I can BARELY hear it at all when im listening to other parts of the case, but when I put my ear up to the back of the PSU by the rear fan it becomes easy to recognize. I'm 100% certain its coming from the PSU itself.

I guess I should RMA it since there are no obvious defects on any of the hardware at all ? Sigh , I really didn't want to have to RMA anything.
October 24, 2008 3:57:01 PM

I find it odd that a PSU would be making the noise. Especially when it happens when scrolling a browser window.

October 25, 2008 4:55:03 PM

Although I don't have an answer for you, I have experience this problem on my college's comps.

Approx 10% of the computers (all comps were the extact same build) in our computer labs made this irritating noise when scrolling in IE and also when panning viewports in 3DS Max. Over the 3 years that I was there, I don't believe that any of these computers died or were replaced (could be wrong about this). We also were never able to specifically determine where the noise was coming from.

Although none of them died (I think), obviously this isn't a normal noise, and you might think about taking it in to a specialist. Even if it turns out that the noise is nothing to worry about, it just sounds like pure cancer and is annoying as hell. :p 
November 14, 2008 4:13:34 PM

probly a little late on this one but ive got squealing which i cant figure out since i changed my psu from a 400W upto 600Wseems crazy as everything points to lack of power. From what ive read it usually is video card/psu related sometimes a speaker on the video card emitts noise with a lack of power but ive never seen this. i think my problem now runs a little deeper maybe coils or capacitors as it seems prominent when under heavy load rather than 3D only which is usually the cause( open a window and continually resize it a listen to it buzz away). An old fix which worked on my previous xp system was to disable smooth scrolling in IE. worked a treat before but doesnt appear to help me this time. not really a fix more a work around, may stop it though especially if its mainly IE scrolling.
December 21, 2008 12:32:09 AM

This is also happening for me now.

I have asus p5q3 and a coolermaster 700 w

when i remove the smooth option in wheel under mouse option then the sound seems to lower a bit. What is going on here with this squike sound...help me plz


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December 21, 2008 8:25:18 PM

This issue is caused ONLY by a poor quality PSU. I have experienced and tested the issue and ALWAYS sorted replacing the PSU with a good quality built PSU. IT"S NOT THAT THE PSU DOESNT SUPPLY ENOUGH POWER, IT'S JUST THE QUALITY OF THE COMPONENTS USED INSIDE - CAPACITORS AND COILS. Buy a decent brand PSU - Corsair, Antec, etc and your problem will vanish :) 
December 21, 2008 9:14:31 PM

It's probably because the PSU manufacturer used cheap capacitors or voltage regulators, don't worry about it.
You can probably return it to NewEgg if is really loud.
Anonymous
January 26, 2009 3:33:05 AM

My PSU it's a Antec TruPower 550W ... and I have the same problem!!

80% of the time... I can hear this sound when i'm on Internet Explorer...when I the page with my mouse the noise stop!

I'm not sure it's the PSU...but when I put my ears in the case.. I think it's the PSU or somewhere around the big pipe of the motherboard.

My computer :

Intel Core i7
Gigabyte X58-DS4
3X2gb Patriot 7-7-7-21 1333mhz DDR3
Nvidia PNY 8800GT
Creative XtremeMusic
Hauppauge Wintv150
Western Digital 1tb 32mb cache..

You know everything !!

If this noise continues......I think I will die !!! :fou:  :fou: 
February 11, 2009 4:21:21 PM

I had this same problem and it went away when I deselected Smooth Mouse Scrolling in Internet Options. I've also been told that muting any unused recording inputs may help as well. Apparently these inputs are very sensitive to noise.
March 5, 2009 6:27:49 PM

I’m pretty sure what you’re talking about is the hard disk drive. I have a 10k rpm drive so it’s really noticeable. I’m not sure if a power problem would cause the scratchy-squeaky sound or not. I just figured it was from fast access of the drive. You may consider defragmenting to see if it helps at all.
March 13, 2009 12:52:10 PM

Anonymous said:
My PSU it's a Antec TruPower 550W ... and I have the same problem!!

80% of the time... I can hear this sound when i'm on Internet Explorer...when I the page with my mouse the noise stop!

I'm not sure it's the PSU...but when I put my ears in the case.. I think it's the PSU or somewhere around the big pipe of the motherboard.

My computer :

Intel Core i7
Gigabyte X58-DS4
3X2gb Patriot 7-7-7-21 1333mhz DDR3
Nvidia PNY 8800GT
Creative XtremeMusic
Hauppauge Wintv150
Western Digital 1tb 32mb cache..

You know everything !!

If this noise continues......I think I will die !!! :fou:  :fou: 



I have alsom been plaged by such a problem.

I have an low power AMD system, for low noise. so it is annoying that i am bothered by such a screeching noise. It appears when scrolling, or generally when the MB is using lots of power, or disk activity...

I upgraded my system to a
Athlon X2 5600+
ASUS M3NH-HDMI
2*1 GB GEIL
OCZ Core V1 SSD

PSUS:
Tagan TG400-U33II 400W
North Q 350W
Chill Innovation CP-400P4 400W (CP-400P4)
an old one i dont remember...

I retained my old PSU, a cheap NorthQ 350W. I wish I hadnt. My old MB was also making noise from the MB itself, so it was time to change it. When I upgraded, at first it was bliss, silent as one could get it. After some weeks, it startet to make chirping screeching noises. It got worse, and i ordered a new MB (same) and swapped it. The noise disappeared, and i was happy. After a few weeks it returned. I changed it to a ASUS M3A78-EM, and the noise disappeared. However it returned after a few weeks.

Now I changed the PSU, and it was reduced, but was sometimes present. I now changed hte PSU a third time, for a different reason, and the noise came back with a venegeance.

I have disconnected all other parts, w/o any difference. I am tempted to conclude that my first cheap PSU somhow has damaged my three MBs (actually 4), as now they all make this chirping noise... Any electronics experts have any comments on this?
March 23, 2009 7:08:15 AM

Hi!

I've got an 850W Zalman silent (expensive) PSU and I also experience(d) the same problem with noisy mouse moves, as well as when the HDs reads/writes. It was really annoying, till I came up with a work-around. Installed the soft from cd that came with the MoBo (Gigabyte ex58 - something) and started something called "PowerSaving". And it killed the noise. I guess that the noice is produced when the CPU is working at its heaviest load.

I also can tell everybody that it is not necessary to have a speaker lined in to here the noise, it comes somewhere from the electronics (memory/MoBo/ etc ...), even though it is posible that the noise will go further in to the sound system, as it is too part of the electronics.

Hope this solved some of your noise problems.

/Mattias
March 23, 2009 12:55:43 PM

Dood, its probably the wiring and grounding in your house.




Used to live in a house with 20+ year old wiring.

Had squicky mouse scroll syndrome something SHOCKING as well as noisey Monitors (as in powered mixing speakers)

Iv just moved into a 3 month old house and BAM, my whole squicky scroll syndrome including my monitor speakers are dead silent.


My dad always told me it was the old wiring setup in our old house, as he'd had similar issues in recording studios in the past.

What you could try is plugging your PC into a differnet power loop in your house. Run an extension lead from your kitchen or living room and see if it makes a difference. Didnt for me but my dad said it potentially can help....


Good Luck
March 30, 2009 10:50:39 PM

Same problem here.
Corsair 630watt Power
ASUS P6T Deluxe with i7 920
Microsoft Optical Scroll Mouse

Disabled smooth scroll seems silent for now.
Why would this matter to hardware???

Maybe its something with the Mouse??? Not the House???

April 1, 2009 8:59:40 PM

Same problem with me , my PSU is a CORSAIR 1000HX
Everytime that my pc runs a 3d application , the noise starts. And im sure that the sound comes from the PSU . Dont know what to do too.
Any ideas?
Anonymous
a b ) Power supply
April 4, 2009 2:34:17 PM

My suggestion is that you go to a local electonic store, or walmart, or target ect... Buy Air Duster Can(s) about 2-3 will work, dismantle your Power Supply Unit, and clean it out as much as you can!

This worked for me, however i think results may very...

Im running on a Compaq Presario 600 Series, I've had it for 7-8 Years and its working fine :) 

PS: when i opened my side penal i had to wear a mask it was so bad :s AND CLEAN IT OUT SIDE ON A MATT, not in your room like i did, it was dusty again the NEXT day :p 
April 4, 2009 11:14:43 PM

I've disabled C1E in the Bios (CPU Advanced) and the noise is gone!
April 9, 2009 4:36:44 AM

Yeah , i did it too , and the noise is gone !!! i dont know whats happening but it works.
April 27, 2009 2:10:03 PM

Quote:
My suggestion is that you go to a local electonic store, or walmart, or target ect... Buy Air Duster Can(s) about 2-3 will work, dismantle your Power Supply Unit, and clean it out as much as you can!

This worked for me, however i think results may very...

Im running on a Compaq Presario 600 Series, I've had it for 7-8 Years and its working fine :) 

PS: when i opened my side penal i had to wear a mask it was so bad :s AND CLEAN IT OUT SIDE ON A MATT, not in your room like i did, it was dusty again the NEXT day :p 



Would do that save for one small detail. This system is literally hours old. I think it has a total of 26 hours up-time on it. The symptoms I'm having are similar to everyone elses.

* Squealing from inside the case, appears to be the power supply.
* Easily reproducible by various window-repaint requirements, such as smooth-scrolling or resizing a window with ful-drag enabled. Almost anything can make it happen.
* Checked the video card and swapped in a temp loaner. same problem, still sounds like the power supply.

To answer someone else's commen about getting a non-cheap power supply. I have a Zalman 1200W beast. I assure you it was not cheap, and has been stellar in its performance.
Anonymous
a b ) Power supply
October 17, 2009 11:31:29 PM

Just go to sound setting in control panel and mute internal PC speakers, VOLA!
November 15, 2009 6:06:15 PM

I had the same problem described in this thread...squealing/screeching sound when scrolling, or when the MB is using lots of power, or disk activity. I tried disabling scrolling in IE and C1E support but they didn't work. I finally found one solution that got rid of the squealing/screeching but doesn't really tell me what the underlying problem is. Here is what I did:

1) Go to Control Panel --> Sound
2) Go to Properties of Speaker
3) Click on Levels tab
4) Under "PC Beep" enable mute
February 21, 2010 1:36:18 PM

this is the noise of power supply transistors tight their screws of heat sink and enjoy
a b ) Power supply
March 4, 2010 12:10:38 AM

necromencar said:
this is the noise of power supply transistors tight their screws of heat sink and enjoy


It is more than that it is the coils them selves expanding and contracting while charging and discharging.
May 29, 2010 2:28:18 AM

whozurfluffy said:
Would do that save for one small detail. This system is literally hours old. I think it has a total of 26 hours up-time on it. The symptoms I'm having are similar to everyone elses.

* Squealing from inside the case, appears to be the power supply.
* Easily reproducible by various window-repaint requirements, such as smooth-scrolling or resizing a window with ful-drag enabled. Almost anything can make it happen.
* Checked the video card and swapped in a temp loaner. same problem, still sounds like the power supply.

To answer someone else's commen about getting a non-cheap power supply. I have a Zalman 1200W beast. I assure you it was not cheap, and has been stellar in its performance.


I'm having these exact symptoms. My initial reaction was to assume it was the hard drive but after sticking my head in the case I'm 90% sure it's my PSU. I just built a new rig and it's being powered with a Corsair HX650. If anyone has any insight on how to correct this problem it would be much appreciated.
Anonymous
a b ) Power supply
July 30, 2010 2:36:38 AM

Ok I have been dealing with this for the past week. PSU (GS600 CORSAIR) I have tried disabling all onboard sound and bios sound and still was experiencing the same problems today I tried a different power supply and the sound went away. I went to the retail store to return my PSU and they guaranteed me it had nothing to do with the compatibility with my board or video card the actual problem was there was a bad -12 volt rail in the power supply which cause the squeaking noise. They plugged it into a PSU tester and my unit failed the test. I swapped it out for the exact model GS600 and now works flawlessy. So i believe you must have a bad rail somewhere in the PSU unit most common for issues whith the mouse movement are the 5 and 12 volt rails. Hope this helps.
October 18, 2010 10:53:43 PM

I know the post is a little old but I feel like I should write about what I found out.
So I've noticed today this "squeaking" sound coming from inside my computer when I was scrolling up and down on a web page in Internet Explorer. So I've opend up the case stuck my ear inside it and listened while I was scrolling and scrolling. I moved my head from component to component until I pinpointed the exact source of the sound.
And the annoying sound was coming from where the video card is(either from it or from somewhere under it, on the MB).
The card is a brand new Sapphire HD5850 Vapor-X with 2 GB of memory and I'm running it on a Windows 7 Ultimate system.
So what to do? I thought I would switch off the Aero Theme, as this is stressing up the video card, that I was using and I put on Windows 7 Basic theme( right click on desktop and select Personalise ) . And the nasty sound was no more.

The thing is...this was not the first time I've heard this sound. It was there right after I had freshly installed the computer a few months ago. But it was gone after some restarts and it faded into memory( or oblivion if it were up to me). But for the past few days after reinstalling Windows a few( too many) times the sound resurfaced.

This was my experience with "IE scrolling sound" , it came from the video card not from the PSU.

It sems that nowadays the electronics dont even last 1 year in normal recommended use. But it's ok lets just all do RMA after RMA or just get new ones from...Newegg of course what else....I'm gettting agravated here sorry :p 

Good luck with your brand new video cards mates!
October 18, 2010 11:25:36 PM

Update : the video card is not "squeeking" on all web pages in IE. The ones with more video/graphical content dont cause the squeek but the ones like e.g this page with lots of text do.
October 19, 2010 1:17:29 AM

Update again:
After intensive testing, meaning scrolling up and down with left hand while having the head stuck inside the PC case, I found out that the sound is still present even with the Aero Theme off. I'm still to find out what in IE scrolling is stressing so much the video card. Some say it's a capacitor or a choke on the video card that's making the sound and I'm sure they must be right. Cant be a leprechaun afetr all..I hope. It seems people found out it's a perfectly normal sound that we should learn to live with it( or get a new component that's not making the sound :p ). They also say the capacitor wont blow up, but if it does dont be near it :)  Lets hope now that this capacitor wont scream like a mad...capacitor when playing intensive 3D games.
a b ) Power supply
October 19, 2010 4:18:58 AM

its probably either a failing capacitor or coil whine.
most likely coil whine. coild whine is more likely to happen in a low quality psu, but it an happen in otherwise high end units. just a manufacturing "flaw" in the coils, they vibrate a little-thats what causes it...not sure why it happens in certain ie pages though lol
October 20, 2010 2:07:53 AM

Yeap it's a coil while, my father doubled on that, he's an electronist he knows his coils :p  I tested with GPU-Z in one window and Internet Explorer in the other while scrolling in this page and here are the results :

Test 1 : IE smooth scrolling ON , Windows 7 Aero Theme ON,--> GPU clocks raise to max values, GPU load max 33%, VDDC voltage raises from 0.950 V to 1.090 V while scrolling, GPU temp raises from 36º to 46º --> coil whine YES

Test 2 : IE smooth scrolling OFF, Window 7 Aero Theme ON --> no voltage change, no temperature change --> coil whine NO

Test 3 : IE smooth scrolling ON , Windows 7 Aero Theme OFF (Windows 7 Basic theme on) --> GPU clocks raise to max values, GPU load max 33%, VDDC raises from 0.950 V to 1.090 V while scrolling, GPU temp raises from 36º to 46º --> coil whine present but inaudible for most humans

Test 4 : IE smooth scrolling OFF , Windows 7 Aero Theme OFF --> GPU clocks at minimum(157,300 MHz), GPU load max 10%, no voltage change, no temperature change --> coil whine NO

Conclusion? Use the chinese water torture on the maker(s) of the video card and on the maker(s) of IE smooth scrolling :D 

a b ) Power supply
October 20, 2010 3:38:53 PM

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