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Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4200+ 2.21Ghz still capable for new games?

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October 24, 2008 11:00:13 PM

Hello all. I currently have the above CPU.

I am going to upgrade my computer with more RAM - 4GB DDR2 800 MHz; from 2G DDR2 512MHz with the dual channel broken-up.

Graphics card - GeForce 9800 series, probably above base level 9800GT; from Radeon 2600XT.

And OS Windows Vista 64-bit from Windows XP.

So will my current CPU be good enough to take that upgrading and keep up with the other hardware components to play Warhammer Online very well?
And other short-term future game releases that are non-shooter (super 3D required power).

And if I do need a new CPU will I have to buy a new motherboard as well? ASUS A8N-E.
I am hoping it still holds well because of the cost of having to upgrade those CPU and motherboard as well.

Thankyou very much for helping. It is much appreciated.
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October 24, 2008 11:13:11 PM

Whoa, Podnah ....

The Asus A8N-E is a socket 939
October 24, 2008 11:24:50 PM

Sorry I don't know much.

What does that mean? Is that a problem?
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October 24, 2008 11:34:52 PM

Socket 939 CPU's are not made anymore, they moved to socket AM2 a couple of years ago. You can still find socket 939 CPU's on eBay some still new in the box. Also socket 939 boards use DDR memory not DDR2, not interchangable between the two.

Its really time for a complete overhaul, most new games are needing a 3Ghz dual core CPU if not quad core.
October 24, 2008 11:40:33 PM

OK thanks man.

Any recommendations on a good performance but affordable motherboard and CPU that will still be short-term future-proof?

In line with my other proposed upgrade components?
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October 24, 2008 11:41:12 PM

s939 motherboards use DDR (which sells at a price premium over DDR2).

Depending upon the $$$ you planned to invest it may be time for a new mobo/cpu/ram upgrade. s939 processors are hard to find, over-priced and slower than today's new tech. The DDR ram you would purchase would not move to a newer platform.

For less than $250 you may purchase a new X2 6000+, a Biostar 790gx and 4Gb of DDR2 800.

The question becomes: If you consider the possibility of a future upgrade to a Phenom quadcore, you may want to purchase DDR2 1066 instead of DDR2 800 ...

Here's a link to a $172 cpu/mobo combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCombos.aspx?Item=N...
October 24, 2008 11:57:00 PM

Thanks for the ideas. But basically even with the RAM and graphics card upgrade then the CPU won't be up to par to even play Warhammer Online well?

Will it greatly hold back the other components then?

Too much choice as to what processor, especially with my lack of knowledge about it. I will also look at Intel ones.
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October 25, 2008 12:12:20 AM

bricky said:
Thanks for the ideas. But basically even with the RAM and graphics card upgrade then the CPU won't be up to par to even play Warhammer Online well?

Will it greatly hold back the other components then?

Too much choice as to what processor, especially with my lack of knowledge about it. I will also look at Intel ones.


There are many more factors at play - the latency of your ram and the screen resolution at which you are playing. Whether you have bumped the cpu with a little OC and the level of detail you are playing ... those types of things.

Investing cash to upgrade you ram is just not a healthy investment at this point. The X2 6000+ and Biostar 790gx is one heck of a deal but ...

Here's the C2D e5200 ....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Check under Intel p43 mobos for a decent combo if you can find one.

Edit: There's a combo with the BIOSTAR TForce p43 for $164 (still hard to top the Crossfire Biostar 790gx)
October 25, 2008 12:20:58 AM

I'd very much like close to highest levels of detailing if not max and a medium-high resolution. I'm not sure which resolution figure is supported exactly.

Is the X2 6000+ comparable to Core 2 Duo E8400 OR E8500 performance and price wise?

October 25, 2008 12:22:12 AM

Also I won't be overclocking the stuff.
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October 25, 2008 12:33:12 AM

bricky said:
I'd very much like close to highest levels of detailing if not max and a medium-high resolution. I'm not sure which resolution figure is supported exactly.

Is the X2 6000+ comparable to Core 2 Duo E8400 OR E8500 performance and price wise?


No and no.

I think the e8400 is around $165 and would , of course be faster. If you are playing at 16x12 and up there is probably not a great deal to be gained when you can spend the money somewhere else ...

Like buying an HD4870 instead of an HD4850 (on which there are some preety decent combo deals with ram).

NOTE: You can only do one combo deal per order. So split up your purchase into 2 orders if you head down that road

Stick with either the e5200 or the X2 6000+. Future hardware is always faster and less expensive. Both AMD and Intel have some pretty neat stuff coming out in the next few months ... (but of course, new stuff always carries a price premium ...)

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October 25, 2008 12:34:08 AM

I have almost this same system. I bought a new heatsink and overclock the 4200+ to 2.7G.
See http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-AC6PRO
For $20 plus shipping it's worth a try.

Works very well with a HD4850 although a Geforce 9800 series would be fine as well. I can play any game at max settings, crysis at med settings and shaders set to high, at 1920 X1080. See the recent AMD64 article on THG for more info.
I would think 2G of ram should be enough, so I would not upgrade that. I think it's DDR ram

This should run you for a while longer.
Good luck
October 25, 2008 12:36:53 AM

bricky said:
I'd very much like close to highest levels of detailing if not max and a medium-high resolution. I'm not sure which resolution figure is supported exactly.

Is the X2 6000+ comparable to Core 2 Duo E8400 OR E8500 performance and price wise?



The 8400 wins hands down, and will overclock as much as 25% more with a little effort. Hard to beat the intel bang right now.

Check the Tom's cpu charts here to compare 2 cpu's head to head.
October 25, 2008 12:45:13 AM

Thanks for all the great infos fellas! Now I just have to figure out exactly what I will choose to do.

Thanks again.
October 25, 2008 1:03:43 AM

I have the Athlon X2 4400+ with 2GB of RAM and a 9800GTX, and games play really well on it(I play at 1680X1024) some games lag a little because of the processor, but COD4 and Team Fortress 2 play beautifully on it. yea, and if its S939 DDR2 won't work, so don't buy that.
October 25, 2008 2:43:05 AM

I think I'll go with a new Intel E5200 and motherboard. Due to increased memory requirements from games and Vista 64-bit.

Having 4GB will be much useful there. As current figuration won't really support that well and DDR1 costs much more than DDR2 now. So I will be able to use DDR2 also.

Do you think it will need overclocking?

I really don't know where to start with that. Anyone know a good noobs basic guide for OC that E5200? If it's necessary.


October 25, 2008 2:55:02 AM

No point buying ddr1 when it costs more than ddr2, is slower and a dead end. Also no point buying an agp card, that too is expensive and a dead end.

The e5200 is a wise choice, please overclock it to at least 3GHz. Keep that hd2600xt(if it's pci-e) and move that in your new pc. I bought one of those cards as well, it should rock!
October 25, 2008 3:27:42 AM

Thanks for that guys. It seems I really do need the additional CPU/mobo upgrade.
The Radeon 2600XT i have is pci-e but the GeForce 9800 series, especially above the base 9800GT is much better isn't it?

And 2600XT to me now seems to be a bit on the low end for new and upcoming games. I got it over a year ago at quite a good price below competing GeForce. Even though performance wasn't suppose to be as good as 8800's.

What is the clock speed for base E5200? Anyone know any good noob overclocking guides for it?


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