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HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 TurboX VS. EVGA GeForce 8800 GT

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September 5, 2008 9:59:36 PM

I was looking at this two cards and I'm undecided which one has better performance than the other. Both have the same price except for the akimbo card and the GTS card.
The ATI HD 3850 has the fastest Coreclock of All Geforce cards and better cooling system but still I don't know how good they are in performance and most Importantly Which one Should I buy? I can't afford anything higher than this.

:bounce:  Look at the website and compare this 2 cards and also look at the video review they have:

HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 TurboX
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Geforce 8800GT
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

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Geforce 8800GTS AKIMBO
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Geforce GTS KO
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...



Please Don't be Bias on your choice and please tell me why which one is better than the other according to the Specs.
September 5, 2008 10:13:08 PM

i would say the 8800gt over the 3850 hands down

but that 8800gts you listed? hell no, you can get a 4870/gtx260 for that money
September 5, 2008 10:25:32 PM

the 8800GT is much faster than the 3850. but i would suggest you get a 4850 or 4870 instead.
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September 5, 2008 10:27:34 PM

I want to know why is it much faster if the 3850 has faster clock, please I really want to know why? I don't want to be ignorant.
September 5, 2008 10:27:39 PM

8800GT GTS dont worth the extra.
September 5, 2008 10:28:41 PM

because the shader runs at a much higher speed and the architecture of the nvidia card is better.
September 5, 2008 10:41:05 PM

Do you know what is the Shader clock speed of the 3850??
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September 5, 2008 10:41:16 PM

8800gt i believe runs 20-25% faster.
September 5, 2008 10:41:20 PM

cyberman86 said:
I want to know why is it much faster if the 3850 has faster clock, please I really want to know why? I don't want to be ignorant.


clock speeds aren't a good way to compare cards. my old 7600GT runs at 580Mhz, but can't even hold a candle to to the 8800GT. it depends on many factors, which depend on the manufacturer. the only way to compare is through real world benchmarks. even artificial benchmarks arent so great for comparing performance. the 2900XT was great in synthetics, but was terrible in games.
September 5, 2008 10:48:05 PM

cyberman86 said:
Do you know what is the Shader clock speed of the 3850??


there is only 1 speed for the GPU.so both core and shader run at the same speed.
September 5, 2008 11:05:51 PM

i would have to say the gt, dx10 cards have shaders the 3850 has a fixed shader/core but the gt,s shaders run a lot faster than the core

hope this helps
September 6, 2008 2:05:33 AM

cyberman86 said:
I want to know why is it much faster if the 3850 has faster clock, please I really want to know why? I don't want to be ignorant.


As others have said, clock speed isn't the only factor. Here's an analogy:

You are taking a road trip and there are two highways you can take. One has a speed limit of 65 mph, the other is 55 mph. You take the 65 mph highway (since 65 is faster than 55), and find that the road loops and turns and has stop signs and traffic. Your trip takes 2 hours. On the way back you try the 55 mph road and find that it's an empty, straight road to your destination and only takes 1 hour, despite having a slower speed limit.


I'm not a GPU engineer so I can't really go into detail about why a card can perform better with a slower clock speed, I just know that it can =)
Things like shader clocks and architecture and other complicated things all come into play.

Now, if you're comparing two cards of the same type (say, two 8800 GT cards) then yeah clock speed will be the determinant, as every other factor between the two cards will be the same since they're both of the 8800 GT variant.
September 6, 2008 7:59:55 PM

Kind of wonder how the 38xx series would have performed if they had equal number comparative SP's to the 8800GT's 112. ie.. 640 instead of 320, (320/5=64 nv SP's). They may have had slower shaders but a huge number more and with the faster clocks would that have leveled the playing field or not at all? Can't say that would have made a difference when enabling AA/AF but still.
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