9800 really isn't above the 8800's, though. To the best of my knowledge, the 9800GT = 8800GT; the 9800GTX ~= an OC'd 8800GTS 512; and the 9800GTX+ ~= HD 4850. Oh, and the HD 4850 is the fastest of all I mentioned.
and what about EAH 4580 it is still better than 9600GT or 9800GT? man...what I can see is 9800GT 9800GT 9800GT but all of them look different...its because they want to disturb us??? and the 9600GT some of them are more expensive than the 9800 series how I have to undestand this?
it looks like I will buy the EAH 4580.... what would you choose.... Radeon or nVidia?? and why? because a long long time before it was that the nVidia usually was leading
Thanks for your answer.... and the EAH looks better then the nVidia