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sahil   10-25-2008 at 11:07:57 PM

Was looking to upgrade without changing my motherboard or anything major

Mobo: MSI K9n Platinum
Processor: AMD Athlon 3600+ AM2 Dual Core
Memory: 4gb
Antec psu 500w


Was looking at this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103272

Is there anything better than this I can get?


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dagger   10-25-2008 at 11:31:23 PM
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That 6000+ is a 3.1ghz 65nm Brisbane chip. You're better off with a 3.0ghz 90nm Windsor chip, also named 6000+. The AMD naming scheme is pretty bad, the "6000+" is supposed to denote performance, but they're not the same, and obviously neither can come close to a 3.0ghz Intel dual core. The new one perform worse than the old one despite being 100mhz higher clocked, due to smaller L2 cache and higher latency.

Performance of the 2 6000+ chips.
http://hothardware.com/Articles/AM [...] e/?page=10

Price for Windsor 6000+ is lower than Brisbane.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103233
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 235eaa0d00

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ghmage   10-25-2008 at 11:33:47 PM
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There's the 6400 and 6400 "Black" edition - but dagger makes fine points.


Message edited by ghmage on 10-25-2008 at 11:35:26 PM
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megamanx00   10-26-2008 at 12:05:42 AM
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Instead of getting that 6000+ Brisbane you're better off getting the 5400 BE and overclocking it to those speeds

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103289

The 6400 is the fastest for you're system

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103290

But it seems only the OEM version is avaliable. I think it would be best of you got one of the 89W 6000+ Windsors though, especially since, as previously mentioned, it's cheaper and faster than the Brisbane model

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103233

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jtt283   10-26-2008 at 12:20:44 AM
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Q: What is the highest wattage CPU that mobo will support without burning it's power circuits?

A: According to http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php [...] incat_no=1 it can handle 125W CPUs.


Message edited by jtt283 on 10-26-2008 at 12:27:56 AM
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sahil   10-26-2008 at 12:26:36 AM
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I have no idea, also I would like to stay away from overclocking. I can spend more but not enough to replace the mobo and all that (dont wanna go thu all that anyways)

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The_Blood_Raven   10-26-2008 at 12:46:35 AM
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6400 Windsor definitely, that is a pretty good CPU and should keep up well enough for today's uses.

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caamsa   10-26-2008 at 02:24:54 AM
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The AM2 6000+ cpu is an excellent chip I have one myself and it comes highly recommended. Sahil it appears to me that your board will support this cpu. New Egg does sell a 89W version of the chip with the Windsor core. That would probably be your best bet.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103233

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sahil   10-26-2008 at 06:24:04 AM
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I think I'm going to go with the 6400+ Windsor OEM. Which aftermarket cooler is good? I'm looking for something quiet, and again not going to overclock.

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jtt283   10-26-2008 at 03:15:10 PM
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Unless your case has excellent airflow through it, you will still want to put a fan on that heat sink, expecially with an 89W processor. 120mm fans are not very loud at low speeds.

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dagger   10-26-2008 at 03:59:14 PM
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http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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Mathos   10-26-2008 at 04:13:47 PM
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835887016

Thats another good one, but really tall so depends on whether it will fit in your case or not. I know it won't fit in my smilodon with the side fan in.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185044

That one would probably work too, and give some cooling to the PWM area on mobo.

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