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But... I already HAVE a Thermaltake! Kandalf LCS...

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October 14, 2009 6:34:44 PM

It works OK. It's quiet and has allowed me to overclock my Opteron 185 from 2.6 to 2.8 ghz.

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I have a Phenom II 965 in the mail with a water block, RAM and mobo and a second ASUS Radeon HD4870 1gb... I'm thinking my two Radeons will make it very toasty in there... So I'm looking at a number of possibilities...

1. Mod that Thermaltake LCS into a beast of a watercooling system that will let me cool my Phenom and my two Radeons and even overclock everything.

2. Add something like a Swiftech H20-220 (will it even fit?) to cool the CPU and re-plumb the Kandalf LCS to cool the two Radeons.

3. Add a Coolit Freezone plumbed for two video cards and leave the Kandalf LCS system as is?

So basically I'm actually considering two separate water-cooling loops inside my box...

Any ideas what would work out best?
a b K Overclocking
October 14, 2009 7:37:55 PM

i had a kandalf lcs but the cooling sucked so i swaped it out modded the case and installed two 360mm rads that solved the cooling problem
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a b K Overclocking
October 14, 2009 10:04:05 PM

My recommendation would be junk the TT WCingcr@p and get a REAL WCing system.
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a b K Overclocking
October 15, 2009 2:34:30 AM

Ditto. If you're going to dump that kind of money into watercooling, why not get yoourself a primo case and save yourself some headaches (and lukewarm performance)?
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October 15, 2009 9:28:55 AM

Ouch, this is an expensive, very sturdy and IMO well-designed case, although I agree, the WC for just my Opteron 185 CPU isn't that great, I can only imagine how it would do with at 140w CPU and two HD4870s... Dammit... Not the answer I was looking for...

So... What's a good large case? No thermaltake huh? Damn I thought I had a pretty good setup with this thing...
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a b K Overclocking
October 15, 2009 10:43:27 AM

you can swap the front rad with a proper 360mm one thats what i did :p 
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October 15, 2009 2:35:50 PM

richardscott said:
you can swap the front rad with a proper 360mm one thats what i did :p 


And that made a big change? Did you have to change the plumbing size, pump and all?
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a b K Overclocking
October 15, 2009 5:20:32 PM

i changed them all for performance but its fairly easy to change
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October 15, 2009 5:34:20 PM

And how big a difference did it make? What are you cooling with it?
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a b K Overclocking
October 15, 2009 7:06:20 PM

currently i got a phase unit -55 idle temps :D , but my bro uses my old WC and its very good with a quad. the temps went down from a load of over 70c load with a q6600 at 3.6 with 1.5vcore down to 40c load
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October 15, 2009 7:19:57 PM

Any thoughts on how that setup (modded TT Kandalf LCS) would perform cooling an AMD Phenom 965 and two HD4870's?
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a b K Overclocking
October 15, 2009 9:27:48 PM

one 360 rad would be the bare min id say tbh you want at least 480mm worth of rads. but thats not just a new rad im talking new pump res and cpu block also
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October 15, 2009 11:01:18 PM

Yeah I think I'll be going with a new case and a high end Coolit unit.
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a c 86 K Overclocking
October 16, 2009 3:28:28 AM

Coolit... Okay................. Have fun.
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a b K Overclocking
October 16, 2009 4:12:28 PM

^@OP: That was Sarcasm. DO NOT get a CoolIt. It's more or less in the same class as the TT stuff.
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October 23, 2009 2:22:30 AM

Ah, ok, thanks for the information! I thought the TEC was a good idea...

Well for now I have a new water block, a Swiftech Apogee GT, which I hope will, for now, give my WC a bit of a boost?

What's the right upgrade path for tweaking my WC setup into something actually GOOD?
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a c 86 K Overclocking
October 23, 2009 3:50:16 AM

Did you get rid of the aluminum rad that is part of your prev setup? Or is it brass/copper?

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a b K Overclocking
October 23, 2009 3:24:13 PM

The GT? It's quite an old block....
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October 23, 2009 11:26:15 PM

Well, I didn't know it was old... Right now I'm seeing about 48°C under load on my Phenom 965, which I think is pretty good. I'm getting the impression that this block is much better than the heavy mass of copper that was the original Kandalf LCS'... And that's pretty unsurprising considering all the fins on the Apogee vs none on the K-LCS'...

The only thing that isn't Tt K-LCS stock right now is the new CPU block...
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a b K Overclocking
October 24, 2009 4:23:33 PM

Id the radiator Aluminum or copper? If it's Aluminum, you WILL need to use anti-freeze(10-25% mix) to stop corrosion. Couldn't find a good pic of the rad in that case.

Next upgrade would be a better pump and rad.
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a b K Overclocking
October 24, 2009 4:39:30 PM

its copper pipes with alu fins i had one of those :p 
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a c 86 K Overclocking
October 24, 2009 11:28:01 PM

hey Horux, you got no alum in your loop anymore. Can't rememeber what pump you had before. You should be good.

The TT rad isn't the most capable by any measure, but if it's enuff for your temps then your good.

Best of luck. BTW, a TT rad with copper/brass heatpipes and alum fins is just just fine. Rads don't fail.
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October 25, 2009 1:41:30 AM

Yeah well you guys had me looking at radiators and it seems the Black Ice GTX360 gets good reviews, and it would seem to fit into my case. Just add a good pump and It'll get even better, right?
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a c 86 K Overclocking
October 25, 2009 8:28:26 AM

Black Ice GTX is a noisy very good rad. Look at the sticky at the top of ths forum (watercooling solved) and look up the results for the MCR, Sr-1, and the XSPC RX series and fans needed to cool etc.
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October 26, 2009 2:37:53 AM

Conumdrum said:
Black Ice GTX is a noisy very good rad. Look at the sticky at the top of ths forum (watercooling solved) and look up the results for the MCR, Sr-1, and the XSPC RX series and fans needed to cool etc.

Noisy huh? I certainly don't want that!!! OK I'll read that sticky, thanks!! :) 
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