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[Solved] But... I already HAVE a Thermaltake! Kandalf LCS...

Forum Overclocking : Heatsinks & Air Cooling [Solved] But... I already HAVE a Thermaltake! Kandalf LCS...

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It works OK. It's quiet and has allowed me to overclock my Opteron 185 from 2.6 to 2.8 ghz.

BUT

I have a Phenom II 965 in the mail with a water block, RAM and mobo and a second ASUS Radeon HD4870 1gb... I'm thinking my two Radeons will make it very toasty in there... So I'm looking at a number of possibilities...

1. Mod that Thermaltake LCS into a beast of a watercooling system that will let me cool my Phenom and my two Radeons and even overclock everything.

2. Add something like a Swiftech H20-220 (will it even fit?) to cool the CPU and re-plumb the Kandalf LCS to cool the two Radeons.

3. Add a Coolit Freezone plumbed for two video cards and leave the Kandalf LCS system as is?

So basically I'm actually considering two separate water-cooling loops inside my box...

Any ideas what would work out best?

Reply to Horrux
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i had a kandalf lcs but the cooling sucked so i swaped it out modded the case and installed two 360mm rads that solved the cooling problem

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My recommendation would be junk the TT WCingcr@p and get a REAL WCing system.

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Reply to Shadow703793

Ditto. If you're going to dump that kind of money into watercooling, why not get yoourself a primo case and save yourself some headaches (and lukewarm performance)?

Reply to buzznut

Ouch, this is an expensive, very sturdy and IMO well-designed case, although I agree, the WC for just my Opteron 185 CPU isn't that great, I can only imagine how it would do with at 140w CPU and two HD4870s... Dammit... Not the answer I was looking for...

So... What's a good large case? No thermaltake huh? Damn I thought I had a pretty good setup with this thing...


Message edited by Horrux on 10-15-2009 at 12:16:07 PM
Reply to Horrux

you can swap the front rad with a proper 360mm one thats what i did :P

Reply to richardscott

richardscott wrote :

you can swap the front rad with a proper 360mm one thats what i did :P



And that made a big change? Did you have to change the plumbing size, pump and all?

Reply to Horrux

i changed them all for performance but its fairly easy to change

Reply to richardscott

And how big a difference did it make? What are you cooling with it?

Reply to Horrux

currently i got a phase unit -55 idle temps :D, but my bro uses my old WC and its very good with a quad. the temps went down from a load of over 70c load with a q6600 at 3.6 with 1.5vcore down to 40c load

Reply to richardscott

Any thoughts on how that setup (modded TT Kandalf LCS) would perform cooling an AMD Phenom 965 and two HD4870's?


Message edited by Horrux on 10-15-2009 at 09:22:22 PM
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one 360 rad would be the bare min id say tbh you want at least 480mm worth of rads. but thats not just a new rad im talking new pump res and cpu block also

Reply to richardscott

Yeah I think I'll be going with a new case and a high end Coolit unit.

Reply to Horrux

Coolit... Okay................. Have fun.

Reply to Conumdrum

^@OP: That was Sarcasm. DO NOT get a CoolIt. It's more or less in the same class as the TT stuff.

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Reply to Shadow703793

Ah, ok, thanks for the information! I thought the TEC was a good idea...

Well for now I have a new water block, a Swiftech Apogee GT, which I hope will, for now, give my WC a bit of a boost?

What's the right upgrade path for tweaking my WC setup into something actually GOOD?

Reply to Horrux

Did you get rid of the aluminum rad that is part of your prev setup? Or is it brass/copper?

Reply to Conumdrum

The GT? It's quite an old block....

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Reply to Shadow703793

Well, I didn't know it was old... Right now I'm seeing about 48°C under load on my Phenom 965, which I think is pretty good. I'm getting the impression that this block is much better than the heavy mass of copper that was the original Kandalf LCS'... And that's pretty unsurprising considering all the fins on the Apogee vs none on the K-LCS'...

The only thing that isn't Tt K-LCS stock right now is the new CPU block...


Message edited by Horrux on 10-24-2009 at 01:26:59 AM
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Id the radiator Aluminum or copper? If it's Aluminum, you WILL need to use anti-freeze(10-25% mix) to stop corrosion. Couldn't find a good pic of the rad in that case.

 

Next upgrade would be a better pump and rad.


Message edited by Shadow703793 on 10-24-2009 at 06:29:47 PM
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Reply to Shadow703793

its copper pipes with alu fins i had one of those :P

Reply to richardscott

hey Horux, you got no alum in your loop anymore. Can't rememeber what pump you had before. You should be good.

The TT rad isn't the most capable by any measure, but if it's enuff for your temps then your good.

Best of luck. BTW, a TT rad with copper/brass heatpipes and alum fins is just just fine. Rads don't fail.


Message edited by Conumdrum on 10-25-2009 at 01:29:19 AM
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Yeah well you guys had me looking at radiators and it seems the Black Ice GTX360 gets good reviews, and it would seem to fit into my case. Just add a good pump and It'll get even better, right?

Reply to Horrux

Black Ice GTX is a noisy very good rad. Look at the sticky at the top of ths forum (watercooling solved) and look up the results for the MCR, Sr-1, and the XSPC RX series and fans needed to cool etc.

Reply to Conumdrum

Conumdrum wrote :

Black Ice GTX is a noisy very good rad. Look at the sticky at the top of ths forum (watercooling solved) and look up the results for the MCR, Sr-1, and the XSPC RX series and fans needed to cool etc.


Noisy huh? I certainly don't want that!!! OK I'll read that sticky, thanks!! :)

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