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I bought an ASUS 4870 from newegg and after an hour or when I ran 3dMark it would go into severe artifact mode. I contacted ASUS and they said return it. This is the replacement newegg sent which has a totally different cooling solution and does not send hot air out a second slot in the back of the case. Anyone else having problems with 4870 in a MSI P7N DIAMOND nvidia nforce 780i sli chipset

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Message edited by jgiordan on 09-11-2008 at 03:25:58 PM
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GPU-Z will tell you what it's got under the hood...

Reply to Kari

gpu-z is ur friend.

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+1 GPU-Z

If it is a 4870, it is using a non reference design that I have not seen yet.

The PCB on a standard 4870 should look like this.

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/skymtl/GPU/PALIT-HD4870/LARGE/PALITHD4870-18.jpg

Notice that there are no conventional caps where yours is coverd with them.

Even a 4850 has a different layout but the number of caps is more in line with what you have.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_4850/images/front.jpg

Your card

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9657/asus1nt4.jpg

At this point, I would be leaning towards you having a non standard layout 4870 but you should download GPU-Z and check to be sure.

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Message edited by outlw6669 on 09-12-2008 at 09:02:52 AM
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jgiordan wrote :

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I bought an ASUS 4870 from newegg and after an hour or when I ran 3dMark it would go into severe artifact mode. I contacted ASUS and they said return it. This is the replacement newegg sent which has a totally different cooling solution and does not send hot air out a second slot in the back of the case. Anyone else having problems with 4870 in a MSI P7N DIAMOND nvidia nforce 780i sli chipset


So jgiordan did you find out if it was the 4870?


Message edited by INSPECTOR71 on 09-11-2008 at 03:55:50 PM
Reply to INSPECTOR71

It looks like a 4870 Asus is know to put that same type on none standard cooling on almost all there card. But what they do is when a card is just released they have the standard reference cooling and after a while the offer it with an improved none standard cooling that you have

Reply to col-p-todd

To the OP - you have been given a 4870 for sure - the 2 x 12v GPU power plugs give it away... Looks like a non standard model - fire up GPU-Z to see what it is, factory OC or 1GB memory is my bet...

Reply to jamesgoddard

It looks like a 4870 with ASUS' non-reference cooler. ASUS already has a 4850 with this cooler:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121272

 

Note that your card has an additional heatsink for the voltage regulator and an additional 6-pin power connector. These both indicate that it's a 4870... maybe a new design not yet released on Newegg. Anyway, that HSF should keep your 4870 cooler than the stock solution, but obviously with the problem of not exhausting the hot air out the back. Usually cards with a non-standard HSF cost a bit more, so you may have gotten a good deal here. It may even be factory overclocked...

 

You can be sure it's a 4870 by identifying your card with GPU-Z:

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

 

If you're unhappy with it then I'm sure you can contact newegg and they'll work with you.

 

@outlw6669: That first picture is most definitely not a 4870 reference card.


Message edited by qwertycopter on 09-11-2008 at 05:48:24 PM
Reply to qwertycopter

So basically what ASUS did was take the OP's original vidcard and replaced the cooler. I like the original cooler better though.

Reply to halister_one

I'm quite interested in the OP's GPU-Z results. It seems very odd to me for a manufacturer to go from a dual slot reference cooling design that exhausts the air out of the case to a single slot non-reference cooling solution that recirculates the hot air into the case. This along with the capacitors has me thinking it's some flavor of 4850.

Now where the hell is that OP with GPU-Z results?!?

Reply to mtyermom

halister_one wrote :

So basically what ASUS did was take the OP's original vidcard and replaced the cooler. I like the original cooler better though.



Not at all. The card in the OP's photo is clearly NOT just a reference design 4870 (which is what the OP had originally) with an aftermarket cooler on it.

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mtyermom wrote :

a single slot non-reference cooling solution that recirculates the hot air into the case.


I think thats 2 slot cooler, it looks pretty thick and massive

Reply to Kari

Here's a proper picture of the 4870 Reference Design:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Diamond/HD_4870/images/front.jpg

Reply to qwertycopter

Also, here's an ASUS HD3870 with a very similar design (caps and heatsinks) and it's factory overclocked:

 

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx? [...] odelmenu=1

 

I think the OP got an overclocked HD4870.


Message edited by qwertycopter on 09-11-2008 at 08:26:04 PM
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its a non-reference 4870 for sure because if you look at it closely you'll see that it has the 2 6-pin power connectors, which only 4870 has

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Reply to jjokubauskas

jamesgoddard wrote :

Umm - that's a 2900



Damn it Google :fou:
K, changed the pic to Hardware Canucks one.

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Reply to outlw6669

Try tweak towns asus 4870 top. I think thats the card, but I wont go there, as they say I have an ad blocker, which I dont, so I wont go there

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Reply to jaydeejohn

That's what I had originally thought it was also.
Most of the other TOP edition cards have the same Hs design but the 4870 seems to have a standard cooler.
The review is Here, ASUS's product page is Here.
Bouth show it with a standard 4870 cooler :??:

http://usa.asus.com/999/images/products/2358/2358_l.jpg

I would agree that the twin 6 pin PCIe power connectors show it to be a 4870 but I am unable to locate anything to confirm it as of yet :(

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Reply to outlw6669

Send it to me if you dont want it I will take it off your hands for you.


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Message edited by compguy2012 on 09-12-2008 at 10:34:22 AM
Reply to compguy2012

ASUS sent me a lame message about even if they look different, they have the same features. I told them, not venting outside the case is a different feature. I also mentioned I am having video problems with it so they said call tech support. GPU-Z does say it is a 4800 series.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8767/gpuz4800ij5.th.png

Any ideas why an hour into EQ2 the whole screen goes artifacts? I tried using an Omega driver but no help.


Message edited by jgiordan on 09-14-2008 at 12:28:55 AM
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dude, that pic is worthless. make sure its not overheating or anything. then SEND IT BACK!!!
demand a proper card that you spent $200 for.

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Reply to customisbetter

He posted the link to the thumbnail instead of the full sized image, silly guy :P
I think this is what he meant to post:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8767/gpuz4800ij5.png

Reply to evilshuriken

Yea dude, it sounds like you might be overheating. I have the standard 2 slot cooler and I'm very happy with it. I set it at 35% manual with Riva tunner and I get a maximum of 61-62 degrees C and it's marginally audible. I don't know with your cooler what a good % would be. Try it!

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and just for the fun of it, test your ram with memtest86+, run it for 8-10 hours to be sure... I got severe artifacting in games because of bad DDR2 rams. It happened right from the start though. but testing the rams doesn't cost anything so why not :D

Reply to Kari

Kari wrote :

I think thats 2 slot cooler, it looks pretty thick and massive

 

Like my johnson... but seriously:

 

Granted, it may physically take up two slots worth of space inside the case, but the point is that it is a cooling design that recirculates the hot air into the case, instead of exhausting it out of the case. Way to split hairs ;)


Message edited by mtyermom on 09-16-2008 at 04:53:17 AM
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