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Cant fit Athlon 64x2 6000 onto mobo I have all specs!

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December 2, 2008 2:14:23 PM

I have a Dell E521 that is in its original state except for a PSU i upgraded. It came with an Athlon 64 3200+ AM2 socket processor which works fine, but i am trying to upgrade it for gaming purposes.

I purchased a new Athlon 64 x2 6000+ AM2 socket processor because my system specs indicated my mobo would take any Athlon 64 x2. When trying to install it, the CPU chip would socket-in fine, but the heatsink/fan unit that comes with it will not rest flush on top of the processor chip because there are a few small components on the motherboard that are huddled too close to the socket preventing me from centering the heatsink on the CPU. I say again, the CPU chip would socket in fine, I could power up the computer that way, but the heatsink that came with it would not fit on top.
Can i use the narrower heatsink (no fan) that came with the original CPU and put it on the new x2 6000+, or do i need a whole new motherboard? I have no idea what mobo i would need, or would fit.

My system specs from Everest detection software:

CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3200+
CPU Alias Orleans-512
CPU Stepping DH-F2
Instruction Set x86, x86-64, MMX, 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Original Clock [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 4x / 10x
Engineering Sample No
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache [ TRIAL VERSION ]
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 940 Pin uOPGA
Package Size 4.00 cm x 4.00 cm
Transistors [ TRIAL VERSION ] million
Process Technology 9Mi, 90 nm, CMOS, Cu, DSL SOI
Die Size [ TRIAL VERSION ] mm2
Core Voltage 1.100 - 1.450 V
I/O Voltage 1.2 V + 2.5 V

CPU Manufacturer:
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information ">http://www.amd.com/us-...oce.....118,00.html


CPU Utilization:
CPU #1 33 %


----------------------------------------------Motherboard--------------------------------

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 11/08/2006-C51MCP51-6A61HM39C-00
Motherboard Name Dell Dimension E521

Front Side Bus Properties:
Bus Type AMD Hammer
Real Clock 200 MHz
Effective Clock 200 MHz
HyperTransport Clock [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type DDR2 SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
DRAM:FSB Ratio CPU/5
Real Clock 200 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 401 MHz
Bandwidth [ TRIAL VERSION ] MB/s

Motherboard Physical Info:
CPU Sockets/Slots 1 Socket AM2
Expansion Slots [ TRIAL VERSION ]
RAM Slots 4 DDR2 DIMM
Integrated Devices Audio, Video, LAN
Form Factor BTX
Motherboard Chipset GeForce6150LE
Extra Features [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Motherboard Manufacturer:
Company Name Dell Computer Corporation
Product Information ">http://www.dell.com

BIOS Download ">http://support.dell.com



-------------------------- SPD -----------------------------------------------------

[ DIMM2: [ TRIAL VERSION ] ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Serial Number None
Module Size 1 GB (1 rank, 8 banks)
Module Type [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-667 (333 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings:
@ 333 MHz 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 20-43-3-5-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 266 MHz 4-4-4-12 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 16-34-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 200 MHz 3-3-3-9 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 12-26-2-3-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name PNY Technologies, Inc.
Product Information ">http://www.pny.com/products/memory


[ DIMM3: [ TRIAL VERSION ] ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Serial Number F150DA9Bh (2614776049)
Manufacture Date Week 48 / 2006
Module Size 512 MB (1 rank, 4 banks)
Module Type [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-533 (266 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings:
@ 266 MHz 5-4-4-11 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 15-28-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 266 MHz 4-4-4-11 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 15-28-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 200 MHz 3-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 11-21-2-3-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name Samsung
Product Information ">http://www.samsung.com...uct.....M/index.htm


[ DIMM4: [ TRIAL VERSION ] ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Serial Number F150DB55h (1440436465)
Manufacture Date Week 48 / 2006
Module Size 512 MB (1 rank, 4 banks)
Module Type [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-533 (266 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings:
@ 266 MHz 5-4-4-11 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 15-28-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 266 MHz 4-4-4-11 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 15-28-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 200 MHz 3-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 11-21-2-3-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name Samsung
Product Information ">http://www.samsung.com...uct.....M/index.htm
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So i know my mobo is a BTX type and supposedly fits Athlon x2
processors. Im unsure what i do next if i wanted to upgrade to use my
new processor?

Thank you in advance for any info you can provide!




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December 31, 2008 12:08:27 PM

Have you considerd buying another cooler that has a smaller sink but with better cooling capacities ? It would be cheaper than buying a new motherboard.

(Sorry if I misspelled something , I'm from Belgium , English is not my native language)

Grtz, Philippe.
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December 31, 2008 4:33:53 PM

Sweatdog said:
I purchased a new Athlon 64 x2 6000+ AM2 socket processor because my system specs indicated my mobo would take any Athlon 64 x2.

The system specs indicate the mobo supports Athlon 64 X2, which is not the same as "all" or "any" Athlon 64 X2.

E521 was introduced in late 2006, as can be inferred from your BIOS date (11/08/2006). AMD introduced several new Athlon 64 X2 models (and steppings) through June 2008. Generally, OEM boards are not designed with any particular consideration for future CPU releases in mind, but are designed to support the particular CPU models the OEM has planned to market or offer with systems that will be using the motherboard.

Athlon 64 X2 6000+ was released in models with 89W and 125W TDP. Do you know if your 6000+ model is 89W or 125W? The 89W model should be fine, but you might need the latest BIOS from Dell.

However, the 125W TDP model may not be a wise choice. OEM boards almost never support processor TDP in excess of 95W, particularly so for Micro ATX (or Micro BTX) motherboards. Even many retail Micro ATX boards are limited to ~95W TDP.

As for the heatsink, this board used non-standard attachment hardware, which requires some modification to accept standard third-party heatsinks. The Dell heatsinks I've seen for this model looked quite beefy, though. I would just use the Dell cooler with fresh thermal paste. If you don't have thermal paste separately, you could just scrape it off the AMD heatsink and spread it uniformly over the CPU.
December 31, 2008 8:50:14 PM

I bet dell done what tiny did to me, I had a 3200+ AMD on a so called 939 pin socket, yeh was it hell :|
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