It is a really good card, dont get me wrong (I own one). But I cant see how its such great value for money. Although some say it trades blows with the 9800gtx+, it often comes on par with the 8800gtx in benchies, from what ive seen. The 8800GTX is cheaper too, but I guess the 4850 is more future proof so it would be a better option. Basically I just dont agree with this whole thing about the amazing value of the 4850, sure its pretty good, but with the 8800gt significantly cheaper then thats just as much a viable option.