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August 19, 2008 1:26:22 AM

Hi, I am a first time builder building a system to be used primarily for stock trading (reason for the 2D card) and also as a multimedia machine for the fam after-hours. But not for any games.

My biggest concern.. do I have all of the parts that I need to build it? (Other than input devices, monitor which I still have to decide on). Will the power supply give me enough cooling? Do I need the extra fan?

Also, am I ok with just one hard-drive? I see people talking about RAID and I'm not sure how that would work. I've always had a laptop with just one hd.

Also, am I being crazy with top of the line processor, too much memory? I haven't bought a pc in a long time. Do I need the Thermal Compound?

Thank you for your comments. Part #'s are from Newegg.com.

Mike


Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Yorkfield 2.66GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9450 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115042

ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131284

Video Card
Matrox M9140 LP PCIe x16

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145197

Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136260

ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T - Retail
Item #: N82E16827135156

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139006

COOLER MASTER cosmos S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119150

ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835118019

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit English 1pk DSP OEI DVD for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116493

Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - OEM
Item #: N82E16829102003

CyberPower CP850AVRLCD 850 VA 510 Watts UPS - Retail
Item #: N82E16842102085

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007

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August 19, 2008 1:43:45 AM

isnt the rampage a bit much for what you want it for?
Anonymous
August 19, 2008 2:07:21 AM

could you recommend a better choice for mobo? also, regarding WiFi Lan, do I need that on the mobo or is there a separate board for that? do all mobo's have wifi? I'm confused.
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August 19, 2008 2:26:46 AM

Stock trading and playing movies? Are you kidding me with that Q9450 and $300 MB and Velociraptor? Your whole list is a collection of good parts that are all way overkill for the job. You've been reading forums populated by gamers, and their needs are not like yours.

You can get the job done very well for less than half the price.

ASUS P5K DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 - $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131182

E8400 retail - you don't need an aftermarket cooler, so dump the Zalman; you don't need the thermal paste either
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

WD6400AAKS - one is enough; don't try RAID, it makes no sense for stock trading or movies
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218&Tpk=WD6400AAKS

Antec Sonata III with 550 W PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024&Tpk=Sonata%2bIII

Two HD 3450 cards - first one for monitors 1&2, the other for monitors #3 and #4; total cost $54 after shipping and rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121259

Add 4 identical monitors, all 22" widescreen.

RAM: get some 2x2GB DDR2-800, it's cheaper.

DVD - good choice

PSU: good, but way overkill. This Silencer 610W is still way overkill but at least it's $20 less.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005

August 19, 2008 2:33:10 AM

I forgot something: since you're using Vista, stay away from Creative sound cards. They are fine on XP, but not so good on Vista. Here are some good ones:

HT OMEGA STRIKER 7.1 $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271001
HT OMEGA CLARO 7.1 $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271002

Add a set of Z-5500 speakers for example.

I have no idea about the UPS. I understand that you need it, with your kind of work, but I don't know which brands and models are best. Hopefully somebody can advise us on that.

August 19, 2008 2:38:54 AM

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Video Card
Matrox M9140 LP PCIe x16



Wow, I found a UK site selling this card for 317 pounds. So, for more than $600, you get your 4 monitors. With two HD 3450 cards you pay 10 times less and get HD support in hardware too. Good thing you asked before buying :) 

Was there any other feature you wanted from that video card, apart from 4 outputs?


August 19, 2008 2:40:03 AM

Well its definitely a quality UPS unless someone shows some deals I would probably go with that..

(minor expert ;)  )

Hm If its gonna be watching videos or possilby MAKING them would hd 3450s really cut it?
August 19, 2008 2:45:26 AM

I have the Cosmos S,,,,,,,

Get new fans for the stock ones (except keep 120 mm hard drive cage fan).

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/251945-28-computer-ca...
Good stuff on fans

So youll have a total of 6x120 mm fans, the side 240 mm
#1 hard drive
#2 bottom between PSU and hard drive cage
#3 back
#4-6 top of case
August 19, 2008 2:57:25 AM

Aevm do you have a Creative sound card on Vista? Because I do, I have an X-Fi XtremeGamer installed with Vista Home Premium 32-bit and it's great. Please show proof where their drivers are bad..

Because you said, the computer will be used for multimedia for the family, I think the Audigy sound card you picked will be perfect.

The first of August 08, Creative did a full update for all cards, X-Fi and Audigy alike, in both XP and Vista, 32-bit and 64-bit flavors, and updated all software, drivers, ALchemy, console launcher. Below is a link to drivers and software for XtremeGamer.

http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.asp...

Since the whole family will use it for multimedia, I would step it up the something like a 9600GT or HD 3850 which can be found for as low as $75. These cards are powerful enough to handle all you need and more.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For speakers, if you want 5.1 surround sound, go with Z-5500 like Aevm suggested. For stereo, go with the THX certified Logitech Z-2300 that are 2.1 speakers.

For cases, the Antec Sonata III will be fine. Definitely invest into a UPS, and maybe look into RAID 1 data mirroring if you need the extra security for sensitive data. Lots of screen real estate is a must I assume, so look into a 24" panel or 2 22" panels.
August 19, 2008 1:46:18 PM

@pcgamer12:
Yeah, I have an X-Fi XtremeMusic and dual-booting XP32 Media Center and Vista Home Premium 64-bit. TBH I haven't updated any Vista drivers in a long time - I use XP most of the time anyway. All right, I'll get the new drivers and see how that works. Thanks!

@Skullfire:
if you're making movies, or editing them, the video card still doesn't matter. Maybe get HD 3650 or 8600GT cards because they have 2 DVI outputs (rather than 1 VGA+1 DVI). What would really help when making movies is a quad CPU, preferably with SSE4 (Q9550 for example), and some fast hard disks. (Seagate 7200.11 or WD 640GB or Spinpoint F1).

Speaking of hard disks: a Velociraptor (1$/GB) and a WD 640GB (1$/8GB) are close in performance when working with large files, like videos. The Velociraptor's main advantage is when dealing with lots of small files. Maybe if you also have a huge collection of photos to edit, then the Raptor would make a bigger difference.
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